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Anyone know the proposed expansion plans and timescale of D-ATIS and DCL within the UK?
I know STN/LGW/LHR have the D-ATIS and DCL at STN, with LGW to be on-line again soon. How about other places though?
30W
airseb
9th Mar 2007, 06:27
man has the D-ATIS. no clue about the rest
DCL at LHR on 21st April.
Defruiter
9th Mar 2007, 09:38
Perhaps I am just being a bit thick :p
I know what D-ATIS is, but whats this "DCL"?
DF
chevvron
9th Mar 2007, 09:46
De fruiter beat me to it; what the h is DCL?
vintage ATCO
9th Mar 2007, 12:13
Can't for the life of me remember what it stands for (lost too many brain cells, Google offered Double Choco Latte :) ) but it is the system to enable direct clearance delivery via Data Link. We have it on our EFPS and hopefully will be using it soon.
Tivoli Vertigo
9th Mar 2007, 14:45
DCL = Departure CLearance (via Datalink)
Defruiter
9th Mar 2007, 17:00
ah! makes sense...thanks ;)
DF
AdmlAckbar
12th Mar 2007, 09:23
Don't think STN has D-ATIS. Maybe next century......
Thanks for the responses. It would be interesting to know NATS' intensions across the UK infrastructure, and in what time frame......
Anyone know a contact point who might be able to answer? Whilst currently trialling ACARS, we have to complete a business case to keep it! A growing availability within the UK would certainly assist if only to a small degree in doing so...
Cheers
30W
Tivoli Vertigo
12th Mar 2007, 19:01
I wonder why there so little use of D-ATIS and DCL worldwide, especially at busier ATC environments.
Separate ARR and DEP (D-)ATIS as well. It makes life easier for the flight crew too.
Back where I used to work it was implemented 6 or 7 years ago!
Here at Abu Dhabi (OMAA), UAE the ATIS is still being pre-recorded by an ATCO!!!
Spangly
12th Mar 2007, 22:48
Yep, there would be advantages to a separate ATIS for arrivals and deps, and you could get round the problem of different letters by updating both simultaneously, whichever had changed.
With D-ATIS it would be great to be able to send a flash message to pilots with high priority stuff, such as LVPs cancelled (i.e. ILS no longer CAT3 protected); runway wet etc. But I guess it's simpler to do that kind of thing over the r/t.
99% of the time, the only thing I want to know pilots have copied is the QNH. But when they're only being held down at altitudes for maybe a couple of miles on the SID before climbing to a flight level, why is that still so important? Is it a case of custom and practice?
UlsterPPL
22nd Sep 2007, 23:32
Aberdeen also has D-ATIS facility in place. Would like to hear more about your D-ATIS experience.
Does anybody know where I can find an overview of which airports (Europe) have D-ATIS / DCL. Trying to find a list but don't seem to be able to, furthmore, whats publised in the Jepps isn't always correct either.
Try the SITA website, I believe they have a document on there for download which has an up to date listing.
30W
edited: In fact, here's the latest link:-
http://www.sita.aero/NR/rdonlyres/4614C5E1-F695-47C9-8BBD-BAF456113BA0/0/ATS_Datalink_Description_and_Locations_2006_Sep.pdf