Ramp Landings - Coming soon to a Terminal Near You (Kerean Air Taxiway Landing)

[OVERTALK]

.....As the next Logical Development
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Pilot mistakenly lands 737 on taxiway
* From correspondents in Tokyo
* January 06, 2007
A KOREAN Air jet with 133 people on board mistakenly landed on a narrow taxiway instead of its designated runway at a provincial airport in Japan today.
There were no aircraft on the 30m-wide taxiway, half the width of Akita airport's runway, and the Boeing 737-900 plane landed safely.
The plane flew from Incheon in South Korea to Akita, some 450km north of Tokyo, officials said.
A return flight, which had been scheduled to take off one hour later was cancelled because of an inquiry into the mistaken landing.
"We feel relieved that there was no injury among the passengers or damage caused to the fuselage," said Hidehiro Tokuyama, manager of Korean Air in Akita.
"We apologise for causing trouble to passengers on the return flight."
The taxiway stretches 2500m and runs parallel to the runway.
It was raining lightly with a fair visibility at about 10 kilometers (six miles) at the time of the incident, officials said.

[SMOC]

Here's a vid, not the greatest quality, as it looks like a security camera.

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/2007/01/06/d20070106000083.html

Try this as the above link is now old news so had changed, scroll down the videos links on the right.

http://www.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/index.html

[RobertS975]

You have to watch the video (in Japanese, of course) of the jet flashing by the terminal on the taxiway! It is just a matter of plain dumb luck that one of these taxiway incidents does not result in a major disaster. Just envision a wide-body taxiing in the opposite direction, bright landing lights courteously extinguished due to the oncoming landing traffic. Maybe it is time to do away with the courtesy of dousing the landing/taxi lighting???

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/2007/01/06/d20070106000083.html

[MrBernoulli]

I can't get either of these links above to work.

[DaveO'Leary]

MrBernoul
Don't bother, you'll have to download (not rec) Japanse language pack...deep pain, don't go there.
Dave

[avrodamo]

Click on the link, then when the page comes up and fails click on the English button at the top of the page in the banner. Works just fine then

[RobertS975]

Well, the video is there, but if you cannot access it for some reason, it shows the 737 wizzing by the terminal ramp at high speed. Then there is a shot of the approach end of the runway and taxiway shot from short final.

[The Bartender]

http://www.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/asx/16_200k.asx

[Phil Space]

Korean Air pilot mistakes taxiway for runway in Japan

Tokyo - A Korean Air jet with 133 people on board mistakenly landed on a narrow taxiway instead of its designated runway at a provincial airport in Japan on Saturday, officials said.

There were no aircraft on the 30-metre (100-foot)-wide taxiway, half the width of Akita airport's runway, and the Boeing 737-900 plane landed safely.

The plane flew from Incheon in South Korea to Akita, some 450 kilometres (280 miles) north of Tokyo, officials said.

A return flight, which had been scheduled to take off one hour later at 1:20 pm (0420 GMT), was cancelled because of an inquiry into the mistaken landing.

"We feel relieved that there was no injury among the passengers or damage caused to the fuselage," said Hidehiro Tokuyama, manager of Korean Air in Akita.

"We apologise for causing trouble to passengers on the return flight."

The taxiway stretches 2,500 metres (2,730 yards) and runs parallel to the runway.

It was raining lightly with a fair visibility at about 10 kilometres (six miles) at the time of the incident, officials said.

Agence France Presse

[Repro]

If anyone wants to see the video of this go to link below.


www3.nhk.or.jp/news/2007/01/07/k20070107000001.html

Click to the right of the Korean Air picture on Media player or Real Player.

This is a news telecast so will not last long.

[B737NG]

Does anybody know what direction? RWY 28 has a ILS, RWY 10 is a VOR/DME approach. The dual GPS is normaly precise enough to get you to the RWY Centerline in 10 km VIS. It is not bad to check the accuracy on the FMC before shooting the approach. That is not a proceedure ... so it is not in the senior notes. I am wondering what mission had to be completed that day.
Fly safe and land happy...on the RWY
NG

[B737NG]

Does anybody know what direction? RWY 28 has a ILS, RWY 10 is a VOR/DME approach. The dual GPS is normaly precise enough to get you to the RWY Centerline in 10 km VIS. It is not bad to check the accuracy on the FMC before shooting the approach. That is not a proceedure ... so it is not in the senior notes. I am wondering what mission had to be completed that day.
Fly safe and land happy...on the RWY
NG

[flyguykorea]

It was RWY 10 which is an offset VOR/DME approach. Direcly in-line with the taxiway...

[Harry the Hound]

Probably safer landing there on the taxiway than in BRS at the moment :}

[Lancelot37]

If anyone wants to see the video of this go to link below.


www3.nhk.or.jp/news/2007/01/07/k20070107000001.html

Click to the right of the Korean Air picture on Media player or Real Player.

This is a news telecast so will not last long.

Can anyone get this link to work?

[fox niner]

It's when people start trying to land accross taxiways we need to worry:uhoh:

This will happen when the Koreans actually land on runway 27, but think it is runway 36......2500 meters wide and only 60 meters long. ;)

[remote]

FLYGUYKOREA

Quote:
"It was RWY 10 which is an offset VOR/DME approach. Direcly in-line with the taxiway..."


Is that his excuse?


The video (while it worked) showed the (narrow) taxiway running parallel to the (wide) runway. So, if the VOR approach is directly in-line with the taxiway, then it is also directly in-line with the runway.

[A330busdriver]

For **** Sake, excuses?

IT was Korean. Is that not reason enough?

For over 15 years they have been responsible for more hull losses and loss of life than just about any other operator, or indeed the rest of the industry put together.

[Golf Charlie Charlie]

In fairness, Korean haven't had a hull loss since 1999 and haven't had a passenger fatality since 1997. As bad as they were in the 1990s, I thought the general consensus was that they had made important strides in improving their corporate and safety culture since those days.

[A330busdriver]

True,

after the Guam disaster the Feds came down heavy on them and forced a few changes on them. Nevertheless, Korean are Korean, and their culture is Korean, and that has been a major part in their poor safety record.

[ironbutt57]

They're not the only nationality to land on a taxiway chaps....:hmm:

[Crospaul]

Exactly, anyone remember the Continental 757 back in October that landed on the taxiway in Newark, and thats not an airport you would ever want land on a taxiway...

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=NYC07IA015&rpt=p

[flyguykorea]

Well, considering the winds at the time were something like 070/40kts, he did a pretty darn good job to touch down in the middle of the taxiway! :cool:
But in all seriousness, the Captain involved is a very nice guy and doesn't deserve this crap. Yeah, he made a mistake, a stupid mistake, and these things should not happen. For those of you with heads the size of hot air balloons who think this could never happen to them, or that this happened because "it's Korean", that's just bull:mad: . A little research would show that at SEA alone, there were 6 cases from 1999 of aircraft landing on taxiway T instead of 16R .

[remote]

FLYGUYKOREA


Quote:
Well, considering the winds at the time were something like 070/40kts, he did a pretty darn good job to touch down in the middle of the taxiway!


He didn't do good job at all, wind or no wind, as he touched down on the taxiway and not the runway. I doubt the captain involved thinks it was "a pretty darn good job".

[A-3TWENTY]

Was him Korean , right??

[flyguykorea]

FLYGUYKOREA
Quote:
Well, considering the winds at the time were something like 070/40kts, he did a pretty darn good job to touch down in the middle of the taxiway!
He didn't do good job at all, wind or no wind, as he touched down on the taxiway and not the runway. I doubt the captain involved thinks it was "a pretty darn good job".

Perhaps your sense of humor had been used up for the day when you read the post. :ugh:

[A330busdriver]

FlyGuy,
Whilst I do agree that Korean have been out of the headlines for a while, there was a time when they were perpetually in them.


Question:
Does anyone recall the time a BIA MD80 landed on the taxiway at Gatwick and a British Airtours 737 taxiing out went onto the grass in an evasive manoeuvre?

If i remember correctly, the emergency runway was in use (08L) whilst the main runway was being resurfaced. I think the poor sod in the LHS was on command checks too, with a training captain / checker beside him.

[Weapons_Hot]

Is this just an Asian thing...I recall the Taiwanese have had a couple of spectacular takeoffs from ANC (PANC):

China Airlines (CI) A340 departure from TXY K (249 deg M) instead of RWY 32 K intersection (322 deg M).

EVA Air (BR) MD11F departure from TXY Y (142 deg M) instead of RWY 32 (322 deg M).
:uhoh:

[ndegepilot]

According to The Seoul Times the two Pilots have been sacked. The article can be read here......

http://theseoultimes.com/ST/?url=/ST/db/read.php?idx=4738

[Luckyguy]

Taken from the report

"The runway is equipped with a radio beacon at one end. However, the plane came in from the opposite direction, toward the end without the beacon. The control tower noticed that the aircraft was heading for the taxiway just before it touched down, but allowed it to proceed."

Of course, none of us were there and we can't definitively know when the tower controller realised the aircraft was going to land on the taxiway, however, unless he's on the ground with the weight switches made, it's really never TOO late to go-around. The last thing that the contoller will be doing at that late stage is ensuring that the taxiway is completely clear for an approach and landing to the correct bit of paved surface. Should he have told the guy to go-around ?

A few years ago, I went around from approximately 40 feet and although it's not a desirable state of affairs, it's better than breaking (potentially) an aircraft and lots of people !

I wonder if the controller is implicated or facing a disciplinary procedure. I'm not saying he should because it all depends on when he realised what was about to happen. Perhaps he did a good job because of his awareness of what was happening on the airport as a whole. Perhaps he was completely gobstruck, closed his eyes and couldn't speak !!

Anyway, they got away with it as a group of people landing on a taxiway. But, it's still almost NEVER too late to go-around !

There but for the grace of God etc etc. :uhoh: