safe seat

[altalhi]

hi
Where is the safe seat on aircraft?

thanks

[the dean]

the one that you just unstrapped from you bum as you exited the aircraft...:}

the dean.

[IRRenewal]

Must be in the back somewhere. Have you ever heard of an aircraft reversing into a mountain?

[Genghis the Engineer]

Must be in the back somewhere. Have you ever heard of an aircraft reversing into a mountain?

Not into a mountain, but if memory serves, the Kansas City MD11 crash wiped the back end off the aircraft in the downstroke of a Phugoid and all the survivors were in the front.

G

[IRRenewal]

Maybe none of us are understanding fully what altalhi is actually trying to ask. Is there such a thing as 'the safe seat'. I believe statistically you have a better survival change in the back, but there are always exceptions as Genghis points out. But maybe this is not what altalhi is trying to find out.

Altalhi, would you care to elaborate?

[Markhkg]

In terms of seat design, it probably is the rear-facing flight attendant jumpseat, so long as the harnesses are properly worn.

The FAA 16G survival rule will help ensure that more people survive in a crash. Don't be surprised to see more seats have air-bags in the seat-belts too!

[Skunkie]

about rear facing jumpseat, remember to protect your neck fixing your head against the bulkhead, with your hands......o'wise the safest place is in the push-back truck on ground :} :}

Skunkie

[Old Smokey]

The safest seat in the aircraft is the one beside the "black box". It always survives even the worst crashes............:E

Regards,

Old Smokey

[411A]

Well, for myself personally, the only safe seat is the one I occupy on a regular basis...the left hand seat, where I can get my grubby hands on the levers and switches...and of course, the pole.:}

Now, for the self loading freight, I would think that the safest seat, from a survivability standpoint, would be the one where the greatest structure is located, and this is over the wing.

[F/O Speaking]

Answer.......Most probably, rear facing.

[Skunkie]

lollll I always trust my Captain ;)

Are you saying over the wing (not outside I hope :eek: ) cause in case of a bad accident, there are overwing emergency exits or cause it is the strongest part, which breaks -statistically speaking- less than other and (my own supposition) has less important cables which can take fire?
It can sound silly, but I got to reassure my sister who's terribly scared of flying ;)

[the dean]

over 50 tons of fuel...!!!:eek: :confused:

the dean.

[411A]

Yes, over the wing, due to the structure available.
In the event of a fuel spill, the seating location really is unimportant...where it goes is where it will burn.:\
Many times this is aft of the wing.

[flyblue]

An exception which is the opposite to Genghis', is the Delta Tristar in Dallas (1985) that went down due to microburst conditions. The detonation after impact blasted the tail section backwards and all the survivors (who avoided the conflagration that destroyed the front half) were there.

Maybe altalhi you should look for the "lucky" seat instead :E

[Jgossett]

If an aircraft crashes there is not really a "safe seat" some may be safer than others but, it all depends on how the plane crashes there are so many variables that affect where the best seat is. I was watching a show and it showed that the rear facing seats is the worst place to be if a plane crashed nose first. I forget what angles they used when testing the rear facing seat. :O

[the dean]

do'nt know about now ( i suspect the equipment ...world/ata/and others ...used to transport troops to iraq is the same as any other plane these days...but , when i grew up trans atlantic carrier seaboard and western who transported american servicemen and women to / from germany had to the best of my recollection seats facing backwards...on the basis i suppose that on sudden maximum deceleration , you were better of having the seat to protect you than being thrown against your seatbelt causing possible internal injuries....

but then at the speed that superconnies travelled more accidents were surviveable anyway compared to to-days speeds.

experience has shown that the travelling public do not like to travel backwards.

i did it once in..i think it was a bac 111. there were a few club seats as far as i recall...and i did'nt like it...

i do'nt even like it on a train..

seems something disorientating about focusing your eyes on an object the is going away :eek: as opposed to towards you...

agree with jgossett...very much a matter of luck and the method of impact. time and time again we have seen maybe an entire aircraft destroyed..all killed with one or two unbelieveable exceptions..why..??

go figure...:confused:

the dean.