India A320 Jobs

[oogrooq]

I've been invited to interview for an A320 Capt slot with Indigo, KFA, and GO Air. Compensation appears to be fairly equal amounst the carriers for an American Expat.

However, I'm not able to establish contact with any westerner that is employed by them to confirm working and living conditions. I would appreciate an email from someone who could give me a little insight on the working conditions and rules, as well as the living conditions. I have worked in the Middle-East and Asia during prior excurisions, but I'm told none of this prepars me for India. Can anyone enlighten me.

Tonrar

[Ray Darr]

...as well as the living conditions.

Tonrar, how is your blood-pressure? Seriously. Think I'm joking? Consider this one small scene well before you can truly answer "Can I LIVE there?" (no offence to those who are from there, or who have been there and can handle living there!)

This video-clip isn't B.S. Enjoy it while you ponder where you're going: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjrEQaG5jPM

[V25XX]

:D This video-clip isn't B.S. Enjoy it...

Buddy, I am working for IndiGo. I believe life is always different away from home and that's a reality. I don't see any problem working in India. In fact I enjoyed watching the video which Ray Darr suggested. It's funny but people don't mind it...CO-EXISTENCE is the secret. Respect them and they will respect you. Go for it...the pay is good (to my standards), flats and condos are relatively good...food-well you may have to bring a recipe book for your hired cook. Not suitable for family status though (again, that's my opinion only). Schedule is same as what was mentioned in the my contract.

Btw, Im not a westerner so my opinion may not be as good.

HAPPY YEAR 2007!:ok:

See ya!

[Dream Land]

Had to laugh when I saw that clip, wish our traffic moved that fast here in Vietnam, lol. :}

[3MTA3]

Ever been to Paris? or Roma?

[manuelvi]

Hi Guys.
Does anyone of you which work in Indigo,KFA,Air deccan or Goair knows if your company will hire soon or later low Hrs rated guys?
I'm applying but it seems they don't even bother to answer to an Email..

Cheers

Mv

[boogie-nicey]

Regarding the clip if only Air Navigation was so efficient :E :ok:

However I've been to India on numerous occassions and though I can't say I got used to the traffic I did gain a bit more tolerance for it. What the heck it's all exciting anyways, go for it.

[gangsta]

hi guys nu yr to all. anybdy intrested in A320 f/o position in india. PM me.

[Joles]

Cap'n,
With the salary you get in India, translated into INR at about 45 INR to the US$, you can well afford a good chauffer to whisk you around, when the airline cars / hotel cars arent available, so I guess that isn't so bad then.

We have a fair percentage of foreign pilots here across all airlines and most of them are doing a pretty good job of getting us comfortably and safely to our destinations !
HEre's hoping you'll do the same soon.

Cheers
Keep The Blue Sky Above
Joles

[titou]

i have just applied for joining indigo in mid march and i am glad to read you that India isn'nt such a mess!! what about the way of life, flat, sport, outgoings etc. thank's

[MASsenger]

If you have lived in the Middle East, then you are well prepared. Nothing can be worst than a place where the rule of law is a joke. I`ve spent a few years in Q8 and wild horses couldn’t drag me to that dump or any part of the M.E again. India may be a little chaotic and things will move at a snails pace, but as an expiate you’ll be well respected. Family will have a good life and there is so much to experience form this sub-continent, sounds, smell……..it`s all very mystic and magical. Be a little adventurous and you`ll simply love it. Go for it mate!:ok:

[mdvti]

I'm really interested in a job as a F/O in India. I'm type rated on A320 but with no hours, ATPL and 1600 hours on ATR.
Thanks for telling me if there is a tiny possibility........

[embrunman]

1600hrs but how much PIC?
From an insider, they won't consider you if you don't have 500 PIC on type.
Or am I wrong?

[Guam360]

Oi,
I am interested in flying the bus in India, anything for that matter, maybe even the CRJ, but I will stick with the bus for converstion sake.

I have just 1000 hrs in it as an FO in the US mainaland. 7300 TT hours.

what are the best operations to apply for? and how?

Indigo, KFA, and GO air???

About the driving, Napoli; Kuta, Bali; Parts of Brasil, so it's not that new or different form many places, sign me up...any advice or suggestions??

Thanks everyone!

[Joles]

On popular demand, I’ve decided to add some more general knowledge on
this post ( which incidentally I thought I did somewhere else too on
this site, but it seems like lost luggage to have never arrived! )

India is a very interesting country, but more on that in a little while.

First things first.

Here is a detailed ( though maybe a bit incomplete) listing of ALL
currently available jobs – as per the sites of the respective airlines
– looking for jet pilots to ferry the SLF

http://www.airdeccan.net/airdeccan/Careers.asp

http://book.goindigo.in/skylights/cgi-bin/skylights.cgi

http://www.paramountairways.com/careers.html

http://indian-airlines.nic.in/scripts/careers.aspx

( Alliance Air is a LCC subsidiary of Indian)

http://www.spicejet.com/careers.asp

http://www.flykingfisher.com/careers.htm

http://www.airsahara.net/s2v1/AboutUs/careers.aspx?id=5

http://www.jetairways.com/Cultures/en-US/India/About+Us/Careers/Expat+Pilot+Application/


Pardon me ladies and gentlemen if I have missed out any, but these are
the ones whose tails I see most often !

Okay. Now a bit about India

First the money part
About US$ 1 will fetch you approximately INR ( Indian Rupee) 44. The
Indian Rupee is made up in turn of 100 paise, much like the US
currency ( and quite unlike the Lira or the Yen)

The economy has started progressively looking up ( growing at 8-9%
every year and projected so for this decade and the next ) due to a
lot of measures that led to its opening up ( and therefore causing
this boom)

Expats are as common in India as they are in New York. On a flight
from BOM this morning I counted about 40% of the pax as such.

Culturally
A very diverse crazy quilt of hosts of religions and subsects. The
main three happen to be Hinduism, Islam and Christianity. Indians
religiously observe holidays for all major religious days such as
Diwali, Eid and Christmas. ( BTW here, we still call them Chrismas
holidays and no Santa is complete without the MERRY CHRISTMAS line !)

India is NOT ASIA when it comes to people, most Indians especially on
the main land, could pass off more as Mexicans or Spaniards and they
look VERY different from Africans or other Asians such as Chinese,
Japanese or Philipinoes.

Irrespective of their religion, most educated Indians have a fierce
pride in the history of “ Greater India” a concept that embraces
Pakistan ( which the Indian psyche hasn’t really gotten over the
Partition of), Bangladesh, Nepal and Bhutan. The other thing we tend
to be touchy about is our way of life. The concept of royalty very
much pervades the average Indian and pops up unexpectedly in the way
they behave towards their fellow citizens. The Maharaja concept is
still quite strong in some parts of the country and of course, real
Maharajas do exist, but they are mainly ceremonial and do not perform
any administrative tasks. The country is ruled by a Parliament that
gets voted into power every 5 years ( or less depending upon the
coalitions – quite like Italy sometimes), but overall democracy is
safe. Safe did I say ? It’s a runaway democracyand everybody pretty
well deems it her / his right to do what they please, so that can get
a bit hysterical if you’re! used to forming Q’s and minding your P’s
everywhere.

Let me not scare you though, as a foreigner you will not only find
your circle of fellow expats within the airline, you’ll find some very
interesting Indians too !

Most of the people you’ll fly will have some education. On Jet and
Kingfisher, they’ll even have an MBA degree ( the stowaways are just
full of laptops). People are by and large pleasant and easy to get
along with, without any traces of xenophobia/ racism.

Safety is more or less ok – a lot better than some African countries
I’ve heard of . Evey Metro boasts of the American Gold Gym in addition
to some equally good Indian ones. Personal sports isn’t very strong on
the agenda here, so you just might get pleasantly surprised. We pay
obeseiance as a country to the crazy game of cricket in all its forms
and you’d better know a bit about that if you need to start a good
conversation. The weather is something we’ve got used to and unlike
the Brits don’t waste too much time over. Every conversation ends a
few sentences later with a shrug and “ global warming”. But
cricket…..aha……if you like the local heroes well you’ve got it made !

More on

http://www.answers.com/topic/india

Keep The Blue Sky Above

Cheers
Anurag

[LeChuck]

Great article!! I couldn't agree more with you Anurag on the realistic perspective you just draw on India.

I have lived in Kolkata (or should I say Calcutta? ;) ) for some time and just loved it. I can't wait to start working there, hopefully very soon on the A320!

By the way, probably the best Tailors I've seen anywhere, if you know where to look.

Cheers

LeChuck

[vgk1945]

There is a tremendous shortage of pilots in India. More than 350 expat pilots are working in India. A few have been thrown out due to lack of knowledge of English.

Expat pilots get paid more than their Indian counterparts. There is even a move to exempt expat pilots from paying income tax in India. The final decision on the subject has not come through as yet from the Minisry of Finance.



We are facing an acute shortage of pilots (we need about 3000 more in the next two years) and the shortage is getting acute by the day. We canot even start a flying school becuase of shortage of FIs and CFIs.

Aircraft are parked on tarmac awaiting pilots. The scene is good from the pilots' point of view.

Rush to India. Be prepared to fly y:) our 'pants off' and log useful flying hours. If anyone needs any more info, kindly post.

Cheers
vgk1945

[squidward]

Great last few posts.

Are any of the airlines yet willing to hire an FO with the type rating, but zero hours on type. (assuming say 2000hrs TT, but only multi piston experience)?

Alternatively, do any of them yet offer some sort of bond, and provide the rating?

thanks,

Squid.

[vgk1945]

If you flown anywhere and your age is on the right side of the bracket, the airline will convert you. With the reasonably high salaries being offered, you can repay your bank in less than a year.

India is a lovely place to be in. It has its own set of problems, but it won;t affect you as you will be moving along with a high flying crowd of professionals.

Cheers
vgk

[CRJusa]

Excellent info Joles, most appreciated!

What is the CRM philosophy in India? A teamwork American style or a dictator/captain knows all style?

Additionally, any information about Indus Air and their startup CRJ operation would be greatly appreciated!

Also- we can expect to see some substantial Regional Jet orders here very soon:

http://inhome.rediff.com/money/2007/feb/28bud24.htm (http://inhome.rediff.com/money/2007/feb/28bud24.htm)

[vgk1945]

http://indusair.biz/include/team.htm

They are based at Delhi and currently they are north India centric.

The big boss is Brig Kapil Mphan. He is the owner of he biggest breweries in India. Due to age, he is in a 'throttle back' mode. He is a good man. He has left management to the 'Team' that you can see on their home page.

They are getting/got CRJ-200s. Operations are mainly concentrate in north India with an odd foray to Mumbai and places like that. They have recently commenced operations and have not become very big as yet.

There is another airline MDLR headquartered at Delhi. They have ordered BAe Avro RJ. Aircraft have arrived, but the contracted 'type qualified' expat pilots have not arrived.

I have an inkling that even Bangalore based First Flight Couriers is likely to place orders for similar aircraft.

Any info that you need on the Indian avaition scene send me a PM.

Cheers
vgk1945

[Airmike767]

I recently received a note from a recruiting company mentioning an Indian Airline needing B757 Captains. Antone have an idea who that might be? I know there is a cargo operation doing DHL but I haven't bitten as yet on the ad.

[vgk1945]

Hello,

I have not seen this ad. If you could forward this ad to me, I would be grateful.

We are based at Bangalore. We are a team of experienced aviators. We have personal top level contacts with almost all the airlines. Our Airline Resource Management Software is being used by most of them.

We are not yet into recruiting. We are wondering why? We have local terrain knowledge on QFE. We will not paint an overtly rosy figure. We will tell you the honest actuals.

Cheers
vgk1945

[Sheep Guts]

I have a warning to all A320 Pilots about this airline. They are offering people with type ratings and little time on type, Jobs with terrible conditions attached.
A friend of mine was just recently offered a Job, as long as he supported himself and paid for his training and for the first 6 months not get paid.
If an airline like this is operating in India, it quite certainly shouldnt be.
Have also heard similair things about ATLASJET in Turkey. Give them both a wide berth.
I realise some of you out there will apply anyway, all you are doing is lowering the standards for the rest of us. We will all pay dearly in the end with poor wages and conditions.
Regards
Sheep

[vgk1945]

Couple of weeks back, in the Times of India there was an article about Air Deccan. It generally covered Warwick Brady (ex Ryan Air - their COO) and an expat Chief Pilot (I forget his name).
Warwick Brady was quoted as saying that they make their cabin crew clean the toilets. The Chief Pilot was quoted as saying something akin to 'All pilots talk a lot of bull ****'. There was some sort of irreverence in these statements that relate to the the actual crew operating their aircraft. Such cavalier statements (both from expats) do not reveal a healthy trend.
Just a couple of days back, their Patna-Delhi A-320 flight was stopped at the launching pad by the Central Industrial Security Force (CISF). There were six excess passengers on board the aircraft. Cabin crew was coaxing parents with kids to put the children on their laps so that the six extra passengers could be accommodated Four passengers obliged. But one objected. One of the passengers rang up the newspapers. The Regional authority controlling the airfield was informed and he ordered CISF to stop the flight from proceeding further.
There are also many instances when passengers have arrived at the destination without their luggage in the cargo hold. The airline claimed that they left the luggage behind as they had to take on extra fuel etc. Passengers had to wait for hours till another flight fetched up with the luggage. Overall, the airline has been getting bad press these days and there is no press release from them to sort out matters.
Cheers
vgk1945

[divinesoul]

Well air Deccan has to do a lot of improvements when it comes to customer service.

In comparison spice jet, Paramount,King fisher etc etc are a delight to fly with.

I wonder with such bad customer service how are they getting good loads maybe its their fares they offer.

cheers.

[CAPTAIN WOOBLAH]

Great stuff all,

This a very accurate picture derived from the following posts. India may have some drawbacks as stated inclusive of the miles of red tape. BTW bring lots of pens......... But it is much much much better that the middle east.

Keep the good stuff coming all. :D

[bharatbachani]

Hello sir,
I am just wondering are you still looking for Fo A320 for India. Me an indian national and hve A320 type rating with me. Looking forward for your valuable reply.