PA-28

[Ian_Wannabe]

Hey guys - looking for an online example of a PA-28 POH... any pointers??

Thanks

[smarthawke]

I din't know whether you will be lucky in your quest, but don't forget there are more PA28 variants around than you can shake a big stick at so you may have to be a bit more specific (ie from PA28-140 Cherokees to PA28R-201RT Arrows and everything in between!).

[Ian_Wannabe]

Ah yes how very silly of me haha....

Im looking for the Cadet, im intesreted in getting to know the operation of the radio equipment. Its something thats always been rushed over or never covered when ive been with an instructor.

Thanks

[TheOddOne]

We've been around the block on this one before.

I've flown 4 different PA28 Warriors recently and they've all got DIFFERENT POH's. Each POH is specific not to an a/c type, but an INDIVIDUAL a/c.

Also, if you look in each a/c you'll find a unique layout of the knobs & dials.

Your best bet is to go to a flying school, book a lesson and you'll get a free look at the POH for the a/c you fly. A school MIGHT let you look at the POH without booking a lesson, but you'll have to give a convincing reason!

You might have better luck looking for pilot's notes. There's a handy reference work called 'V' Speeds which shows some generic numbers; but beware, some models even within a grouping such as the Warrior will be different from each other.

TheOddOne

[TheOddOne]

Im looking for the Cadet, im intesreted in getting to know the operation of the radio equipment. Its something thats always been rushed over or never covered when ive been with an instructor.
Thanks

More sensible suggestion: pick a rainy day and tell your instructor you'd like some time having the operation of the avionics kit explained to you. i must admit that if it includes one of the later generation of integrated Comm & GPS devices, it will take some time to get your head around it. However, the operation won't be covered in the POH, but in the manual that came with the avionics.

TOO

[Ian_Wannabe]

Yeah Im aware of that but thanks for pointing it out.

I was just going on the hope that pipers may fit standard radios - at the moment i cant pop down to my club as i'm at my parents for a while and thought i'd do some swotting up if the resource was available...

Good plan OddOne methinks ill do that sometime next week

[vulcanpilot]

I have a generic POH for a PA28-161 Warrior II, and there is naff all in there about the radio fit. The closest to any kind of info is a line drawing of the panel with the radio stack shown (as the old clockwork type radio's).

As has been said in other posts, radio and nav fit is very much specific to the individual aircraft and can vary widely within the same club fleet. I fly Archers and Warriors - the newest run dual GNS430's whilst one of the oldest Warrior II's has a standard 'digital' Bendix/King radio as box 1 and a clockwork radio as box 2.

If you are unsure, when with your instructor, ask for a few minutes familiarisation with the radio you will be flying with - soon you will realise that whilst they all look different, the operation is pretty much standard and you will then be comfortable with whatever box you have to use. Caveat on the integrated Nav/Com/GPS boxes like the GNS range as it can all go horribly wrong by just stabbing at any old button :=

[the dean]

wannabe..i agree with theoddone...take a rainy day and ask your instructor.if he's got nothing to do he'll be only too pleased to take you through the kit.

because in the early stages we are doing the radio work we sometimes forget to do a briefing on it but as vulcanpilot says there all different but basically work in similar ways unless you are into complicated kit and mixer boxes.we sometimes assume that watching us fire up the radios and throw the switches the student becomes familiar with the gear...

so anyway..just ask and i am sure all will be revealed..:ok:

[Andy_RR]

Just a suggestion, but you can learn a lot of stuff by fiddling with MS Flight Stimulator. I did this to get my head 100% around the radio nav stuff leading up to my skills test when I was a long way away from the aero club.

A

[172driver]

Wannabe, two things here. One, if it's the old-style radio kit, they really all pretty much work alike, once you've figured one out, you should be ok for the rest. Only thing (in my experience) to watch out for is the audio panel which, especiallly in older/tireder a/c can have its quirks...

Two, re the GNS 430 and up (i.e. integrated boxes), they really require some training. This can however be done at home by downloading (or getting the CD) of the free training software. Check out the Garmin website (I'm only familiar with the Garmins, but imagine the others to have similar programs).

HTH