Interesting Citation runway excursion video

[18-Wheeler]

Runway too short, landing with about 15kts tailwind, damp surface, etc. No surprise it goes right off the end and into the water.
The crew get out okay, but watch carefully about four minutes into the ten minute video. Something really strange happens.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V06LBgfuxgA&mode=related&search=

Any other information on how that happened?

[av8boy]

http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief2.asp?ev_id=20050526X00676&ntsbno=NYC05LA085&akey=1


Dave

[vapilot2004]

Interesting NTSB report on this. Curious - ATC has him heading 220 deg with advisory that the ?? airport was at 12 o'clock - which would seem to position them inline for approach to runway 22 at ACY not AIY. This does not make sense if you look at the charts and factor the aircraft's approach profile. :hmm:

It appears to me like the fellow thought he was putting down at ACY, saw AIY and things went downhill from there. Perhaps cleared to Bader was taken as a (non-existant in NJ) fix and not the airport. While our man in the busy end clearly was having a bad day - it could have been a much better day had ACY Approach at least noticed they were directing a TJ to a non-TJ approved facility. The good news was that there were no injuries other than those sustained by a heretofore perfectly fine Citation CJ1.

I loved Bader for being a quick and easy sedan ride to and from Atlantic City. There has been a push to close AIY for a while now. The airport's pattern imposes a limit on how high they can the build casinos. Sadly, Bader is set to close sometime this month and AC developers and casino owners are ready to make billions from the reclaimed property and code changes.

Now I am thinking about that boardwalk pizza.............as well as the obvious lessons to be learned here.

[paulkinm]

Is it ususal to leave the engines running during an emergency situation? It looks like this poor bird didn't want to give up in a hurry :{

[paulkinm]

It's quite interesting to see what was noted on You Tube about this one. Please see below one of the possible reasons. :uhoh:

Could be JMR, a high profile client requesting something of the pilot and the pilot pressured by his contract to acheive his clients wishes. Still not an excuse but extremely plausible. I remember a Air Liner once having a "requirement" for pay. The pilots HAD to make it to the destination before they were payed for the leg. Discouraged diversions, and called into question safety at times

[Ignition Override]

How was it possible that the pilot only had a Private license?
That must be a mistake. If it is true, then did nepotism allow the guy to fly the plane? :confused:

Was he solo?

[captjns]

Is it ususal to leave the engines running during an emergency situation? It looks like this poor bird didn't want to give up in a hurry :{

Airplanes don't mind tailwinds as long as you have sufficient runway to stop the jet. Also you need to land the jet within the touch down zone rather than one third the way. Problem is that people with lots of $$$ think they are impervious to harm or stupidity.:hmm:

[gb777]

Details:

http://www.baaa-acro.com/Fiches%20d'accidents/2005/OY-JET.htm

http://aviation-safety.net/database/record.php?id=20050515-0

[DesiPilot]

How was it possible that the pilot only had a Private license?
That must be a mistake. If it is true, then did nepotism allow the guy to fly the plane? :confused:
Was he solo?

Well, if he was the owner of the aircraft, he could very well hold Private with Instrument and type rating. Perfectly legal to carry passengers as well.