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evansb
12th Aug 2006, 17:29
My final guess for this photo is a North American T-28 Fennec/Trojan.

cringe
12th Aug 2006, 19:56
Apologies for a delayed response.

Not American. Not the FT-5 or the JJ-5. Follow your hunches, Mel. :)

MReyn24050
12th Aug 2006, 20:41
Apologies for a delayed response.
Not American. Not the FT-5 or the JJ-5. Follow your hunches, Mel. :)
Thanks cringe

OK East European. the SOKO G-2 Galeb.

cringe
12th Aug 2006, 21:00
You have it, Mel. :ok: It was indeed the Yugoslav Soko G-2 Galeb (Seagull). Awaiting another interesting challenge from your vast collection of photos.

MReyn24050
12th Aug 2006, 21:23
Thanks cringe. My choice there was based on a photograph of the front cockpitand the red lever on the top left of the panel. I could not locate a photograph of the rear cockpit, there are many aircraft of that format in the hands of private owners these days.
Whilst this has only part of a cockpit in the view I am sure it will not last as long as your challenge.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz147.jpg
Mel

Philthy
12th Aug 2006, 22:08
HP Hampden?

MReyn24050
12th Aug 2006, 22:12
Not the Hampden Phil. Sorry

682al
12th Aug 2006, 22:44
I'll re-enter the fray for this one.

It's the Blackburn Botha.

JDK
13th Aug 2006, 03:39
Bristol Beaufort

mikl
13th Aug 2006, 08:47
HP Hereford ?

JDK
13th Aug 2006, 09:16
Quick review of my notes, and I've been lucky enough both to have been inside two Beauforts, and no Bothas (a lamentable aircraft) and it's definitely a Botha - so it's 682al's - I may be wrong, of course, so we should await Mel's confirmation...

MReyn24050
13th Aug 2006, 09:20
Sorry for the delay.
682al has it :ok: It is the Blackburn Botha.:D
You have control 682al.

682al
14th Aug 2006, 09:19
Apologies for the delay in responding...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v664/682al/Untitled-1.jpg

MReyn24050
14th Aug 2006, 10:21
A.W. Albemarle perhaps? But looking at the nose canopy structure makes me change my mind and leads me to the Bristol Beaufort.

682al
14th Aug 2006, 12:00
But looking at the nose canopy structure makes cme change my mind and leads me to the Bristol Beaufort.

After JDK's Beaufort suggestion for the last one, that would be too easy!

MReyn24050
14th Aug 2006, 13:44
After JDK's Beaufort suggestion for the last one, that would be too easy!

OK how about the Bristol Blenheim Mk IV. That Bomb Aimers sight is the standard sight fitted to British aircraft 1940 looks similar to the one fitted to the Botha so I am sure it is a British aircraft.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/MkIX_CSBr.jpg

682al
14th Aug 2006, 14:21
Correct Mel.

A long nosed Blenheim IV and continuing the Mk IX bomb sight theme!

MReyn24050
14th Aug 2006, 14:50
Thanks 682al.
This one is several years later,I am sure it will not last long.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz164a.jpg
Mel

India Four Two
14th Aug 2006, 17:54
Avro Athena?

MReyn24050
14th Aug 2006, 18:38
Avro Athena?

Sorry not the Avro Athena
Mel

mikl
15th Aug 2006, 08:12
If it was not the yoke on the left side, I'll would say a Percival- Hunting Provost ?

MReyn24050
15th Aug 2006, 08:15
Sorry mikl Not the Percival- Hunting Provost
Mel

aviate1138
15th Aug 2006, 10:16
Slight diversion here.....
Could anyone point me to a cockpit pic of the MS 760 Paris Jet III please? I have some of the earlier versions.
Scroll down page for the prototype only Mk III
http://www.machdiamonds.com/paris.html
Thanks,
Aviate 1138

mikl
15th Aug 2006, 10:53
So, how about the Jet Provost T 1 as it seem to be a tricycle LG according to the picture ?

MReyn24050
15th Aug 2006, 11:31
So, how about the Jet Provost T 1 as it seem to be a tricycle LG according to the picture ?

Sorry milk. Not the Jet Provost T.1 and no this bird did not have a tricycle landing gear.
Mel

LowNSlow
15th Aug 2006, 12:01
Could it perhaps be a Percival Prentice perchance? Any marks for alliteration :D

MReyn24050
15th Aug 2006, 12:03
Could it perhaps be a Percival Prentice perchance? Any marks for alliteration :D

Sorry no marks at all I am afraid as it is not a Percival Prentice.
Mel

jabberwok
15th Aug 2006, 13:55
The windscreen is quite vertical. Because of that I'll throw in something totally random - Short Seamew.

India Four Two
15th Aug 2006, 14:13
OK. If it's not the Athena, how about the winner of that contest, the Boulton & Paul P.108 Balliol? Although, the windshield seems too vertical.

MReyn24050
15th Aug 2006, 14:35
OK. If it's not the Athena, how about the winner of that contest, the Boulton & Paul P.108 Balliol? Although, the windshield seems too vertical.
jabberwok not the Seamew. India Four Two :ok: :D Has it. It is indeed a photograph of the cockpit of a Boulton Paul Balliol T.1 Reg No VL.917. The photograph was taken after its crash at Pendeford following engine problems on a test flight. This aircraft was the first of the Mamba-powered Balliols to fly.
You have control

India Four Two
15th Aug 2006, 15:10
Wow. I think I've won two now, but no images to post. Someone go ahead.

Mel. Thanks for the info on the source of the photo. I thought it looked a bit nose down. ;)

seacue
15th Aug 2006, 19:07
Me! Me!
How about this one?
http://users.erols.com/rcarpen/cpit2.jpg

ZH875
15th Aug 2006, 19:48
HP 42 Hermes

Or a Blackpool Tram

seacue
15th Aug 2006, 20:16
Older that a Hermes, might be newer than a Blackpool tram (at least some of them). Yes it is an aeroplane cockpit / cabin.

MReyn24050
15th Aug 2006, 20:41
Older that a Hermes, might be newer than a Blackpool tram (at least some of them). Yes it is an aeroplane cockpit / cabin.

Aeroplane or Airship? It looks like the command cabin from an airship. R100 perhaps?

ormus55
15th Aug 2006, 21:00
zeppelin mk1?

seacue
15th Aug 2006, 21:19
As I said, aeroplane .. with wing(s). In some sense, modern for its age. Not British, not German.

Speedpig
15th Aug 2006, 22:03
An early Fokker perhaps?

seacue
15th Aug 2006, 22:09
Not a Fokker.

ormus55
15th Aug 2006, 22:26
French. Latecoere 521?

(c1935)

seacue
15th Aug 2006, 23:24
Not a Latecoere 521.
Built much earlier.

I fear this is a very hard one. Perhaps only a prototype was built and this may be the only published interior photograph. I'll be generous with hints as guesses progress.

pigboat
16th Aug 2006, 00:35
Looks like something Igor Sikorsky would have built while he was still in Roosia. The "Bolshoi Baltiskii" perhaps?

seacue
16th Aug 2006, 00:37
Not Russian. As far as know Sikorsky didn't have a hand in it. Built after the Great War.

pigboat
16th Aug 2006, 02:05
Farman Goliath, and that's my final answer Regis. ;)

seacue
16th Aug 2006, 04:31
The Goliath's pilot(s) sat in an open cockpit in the versions I've seen. You're within a few years of the correct age however.

Not Farman, not French.

The big square thing next to the pilot's seat is a camera for taking survey pictures.

MReyn24050
16th Aug 2006, 11:32
Just a WAG the Caproni CA.51 perhaps?

seacue
16th Aug 2006, 11:50
While "country of origin" was sometime misrepresented back in those years, the original engines and the larger ones eventually used were not Italian. Thus I claim it is not Italian. As best I can tell it was quite different from the CA.51 being a biplane and having just two engines.

Woomera
16th Aug 2006, 12:00
Looks like a bunch of flowers on the left side of the tram driver's seat!! :}

Obviously IFR! :} :}

OK, OK. I'll go back to my own forum.........:{

seacue
16th Aug 2006, 12:18
Hard to believe, but maybe those "flowers" were the engine controls. Maybe, maybe...., but being inteded as a Forestry Patrol aircraft...... Yet another hint.

I'll be away much of the day. Might post a picture of the whole aircraft late this evening UK time if no one is even close. I think the machine is too obscure to make a good contest, sorry.

MReyn24050
16th Aug 2006, 13:26
Perhaps the Dayton Wright FP-2?
Certainly fits the bill!
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/wrightse.jpg

planeenglish
16th Aug 2006, 13:37
Shot in the dark...but could it be a glider? CG-4A Glider Waco or something to that effect? American made I believe.

Best to all,
PE

seacue
16th Aug 2006, 22:34
CONGRATULATIONS MReyn, it is in fact the cockpit of the Dayton Wright FP-2.

Over to you.

SOB, I just lost all my bookmarks. Why????

seacue

MReyn24050
16th Aug 2006, 23:21
Thank you seacue.
Not sure what you mean when you say you have lost all your bookmarks. Let us hope you find them soon.
Sorry but another old one, but then I am sure it will not last long.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz165.jpg
Mel

seacue
17th Aug 2006, 00:00
My browser went ape and ate my bookmarks. Fortunately I have been able to copy them over from my dying laptop.

pigboat
17th Aug 2006, 00:57
seacue, that airplane resembles the Canadian Vickers Velos. It too was twin engined bi-plane, on floats, intended for aerial photography. The Velos had the engines between the wings, two Wright J5's by the look of 'em. It was (still)born in Montreal in October of 1927. They'd moored on a buoy at the Vickers plant on the Montreal waterfront and it was sunk by an early, wet snowfall. Not to be outdone they fished it off the bottom, dried it out, and relaunched it. Nature had the last laugh. It sank again in another snowstorm in November and Vickers cried uncle. :p

Good luck with your bookmarks!

seacue
17th Aug 2006, 09:34
Bookmarks more-or-less sorted, a slightly earlier set imported.

The image I promised: http://users.erols.com/rcarpen/cpit3.jpg Was it based on a WW-I bomber project? My photos came from the November 28, 1921, issue of Aviation and Aircraft Journal, an American mag.

I thought the Dayton Wright FP-2 quite advanced in some respects. How many other 1921 aircraft had enclosed cockpits? Typical of the age, they seem to have guessed wrong on the power required - the original two 210 hp Hall-Scott engines were replaced by 420 hp Liberty engines. That was less than three years after the end of the Great War and one could doubtless buy a surplus Liberty very cheaply.

MReyn24050
17th Aug 2006, 10:45
seacue
A link to a very interesting narrative by Walter E. Lees a pilot who flew the Dayton Wright FP-2.

Walter E. Lees, was a Pioneer Pilot, soloed in 1912 and continued in aviation until 1945. He flew approximately 12,000 hours and handled over 60 different types of aircraft. In 1931, he set a non-refueling endurance record in a Packard-Diesel powered Bellanca which stood until 1986
Mel

http://home.earthlink.net/~ralphcooper/pimagb20.htm

barit1
17th Aug 2006, 12:14
... That was less than three years after the end of the Great War and one could doubtless buy a surplus Liberty very cheaply.

Surplus military goods often became incorporated in civilian projects after both WWI and WWII (I'm sure there are other examples too).

The Curtiss OX-5 engine - WWI surplus - was often used as powerplant on Waco, TravelAire, Eaglerock and other 1920's aircraft. My Dad soloed in a Curtiss Robin w/OX-5 power.

Similarly, surplus P&W Wasp Jr. engines were plentiful after WWII, and powered DHC Beavers and Beech D-18S through H-18S's until the early 60's at least. They also were a popular upgrade for Stearman 75 agplanes.

MReyn24050
17th Aug 2006, 17:29
The cockpit at Post #303 is a British Aircraft.

My Dad's Little Boy
17th Aug 2006, 17:39
Blackburn Blackburd?

ormus55
17th Aug 2006, 19:12
no idea what it is, but the HUD unit is very advanced for an edwardian aeroplane.
:confused:

aviate1138
17th Aug 2006, 19:24
no idea what it is, but the HUD unit is very advanced for an edwardian aeroplane.
:confused:
This might be a clue - ignore Auster as a possible aircraft, that is just a trade name for an AeroScreen type.
http://www.vintagecarparts.co.uk/en/771~Auster+aeroscreen-details/
Aviate1138

MReyn24050
17th Aug 2006, 21:14
My Dad's Little Boy :ok: :D it is as you say Blackburn's Blackburd. In fact N113 which took to the air on 4th June 1918, which makes it Georgian not Edwardian.
You have control

http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/farmer/120/blackburd.jpg

My Dad's Little Boy
18th Aug 2006, 09:56
http://www.militaryfactory.com/cockpits/imgs/xb70.jpg

Thank you for that MReyn24050.

Now for something somewhat newer. Apologies in advance if it's been posted before.

MDLB

P.S. No cheating by right-clicking the picture. Doh!

aviate1138
18th Aug 2006, 10:23
Saw a picture similar to that in Clay Lacy's office years ago - North American XB-70? Six engines
Aviate 1138

My Dad's Little Boy
18th Aug 2006, 10:42
Aviate 1138.

You're right. It was a bit obvious though.:ok: :D

I couldn't find a cockpit picture of the aircraft I wanted.:E

However, it's your turn now.

Cheers

MDLB

aviate1138
18th Aug 2006, 11:35
OK,
Not quite as fast and a little smaller...... :)
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture&friendID=102388380
Aviate1138
Click on the pic to enlarge

seacue
18th Aug 2006, 12:56
I get various adverts on MySpace, not a cockpit.

MReyn24050
18th Aug 2006, 13:01
aviate1138

The link doesn't work Aviate1138. It tells me I must be a member to gain access.

aviate1138
18th Aug 2006, 13:27
MReyn24050


OOOOOOPs!!!!! Stand by One........ Extracting digit.....


Aviate 1138

aviate1138
18th Aug 2006, 14:17
How do I paste a cockpit image on this thread so it sits visible on the page?
Simple question from a simple mind! :)
Aviate 1138


http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=203154

MReyn24050
18th Aug 2006, 14:52
aviate1138

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=203481

Evileyes
18th Aug 2006, 15:02
A trend towards Attention Deficit Quoting is becoming apparent in this thread. That's where one quotes the post immediately prior to theirs in its entirety. As this takes up twice the necessary bandwidth please assume PPRuNers are capable of reading one and proceeding to the next without a reminder. I've edited the last page or so to remove them but to save the mods the trouble..... ;)

With your help we can stamp out ADQ in our time! :ok:

MReyn24050
18th Aug 2006, 16:40
:\ Sorry, point taken :O

aviate1138
18th Aug 2006, 16:45
I get various adverts on MySpace, not a cockpit.
Sorry..... Now then....
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/beejaviate/OldSarum.jpg

Aviate1138

Aviate1138, there is a small icon in the toolbar of the "Post Reply" window. It looks like a mountain with the sun above it. Use that to actually attach your image to the post. I've taken the liberty of helping here.

Cheers,
Evileyes

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/beejaviate/OldSarum.jpg

MReyn24050
18th Aug 2006, 18:50
Rutan model 33 Varieze perhaps?

aviate1138
18th Aug 2006, 19:00
MReyn24050

Closer to home. Europe.
Aviate 1138

aviate1138
18th Aug 2006, 19:34
bral

No, just a little heavier than a Shadow.
Aviate 1138

MReyn24050
18th Aug 2006, 22:10
Sky Arrow 650 perhaps?

Speedpig
18th Aug 2006, 22:54
MReyn24050

I wanted to say that... Italian I think?
The two levers and the little knob on the right look as though they've been hand drawn. In the picture I found on the net (external) it looked like the levers were further forward.

aviate1138
18th Aug 2006, 22:57
MReyn24050 said.....
Sky Arrow perhaps?
Spot on
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/beejaviate/SkyArrow1.jpg
Using a Mac G5 and Safari or Firefox browser doesn't seem to want to post the image on the page!

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k35/beejaviate/SkyArrow1.jpg

It works fine aviate1138, there is an icon in the toolbar of the "Post Reply" window. It looks like a mountain with the sun above it. Use that to actually attach your image to the post. The image above was posted using that facility and your link.

aviate1138
18th Aug 2006, 23:07
Speedpig

Yes, I have big hands and the standard differential brake levers are quite uncomfortable to operate for any length of time [IMHO] in a crosswind landing/taxi situation to avoid weathercocking, so I drew a quick overlay for someone to machine me two comfortable knobs. :) Same for the Throttle lever.
Aviate1138

MReyn24050
18th Aug 2006, 23:18
Thanks aviate1138. Sorry I beat you to it Speedpig, you are correct in saying the design is Italian in fact by INIZIATIVE INDUSTRIALI ITALIANE S.p.A. (3I) - METEOR S.p.A.
I am sure this one will not be a problem, somewhat older than aviate1138's though.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz173.jpg
Mel

evansb
19th Aug 2006, 00:33
Am I in the correct era if I guess AVRO 626?

MReyn24050
19th Aug 2006, 07:57
evansb
Sorry for the delay. This aircraft first flew a few years later.

aviate1138
19th Aug 2006, 08:06
MReyn24050

DH 60 Moth?
Aviate1138

MReyn24050
19th Aug 2006, 10:33
Aviatte1138. Sorry not a DH60 Moth.
Mel

aviate1138
19th Aug 2006, 11:55
MReyn24050

DH 60G Gipsy Moth? Wouldn't be Sir Francis Chichester's by any chance - huge compass in there! :)
Aviate1138

MReyn24050
19th Aug 2006, 12:31
Aviatte1138. DH 60G Gipsy Moth?
No sorry this aircraft was not one from the De Havilland stable.
Mel

evansb
19th Aug 2006, 19:52
mid 1930s LUTON "Buzzard"?

MReyn24050
19th Aug 2006, 21:38
evansb. mid 1930s LUTON "Buzzard"?
Now there is a man who knows his aeroplanes.:ok: :D. It is indeed a Luton Buzzard II. The interesting thing a certain similarity with the last challenge as can be seen by the following:-
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/70yearsdifference.jpg
You have control
Mel

evansb
19th Aug 2006, 22:29
Thank you for the challenge Mel! I am currently not in a position to post cockpit photos, but will be shortly, perhaps next week.
This forum subject is now open to anyone else who wishes to post.
Regards..

JDK
20th Aug 2006, 02:28
Well, here's an easy one to keep us going.

According to the list, we've not had this type before. This particular one was built in one country, photographed in a second, early 21st C, when it was display flying in the hands of a master, and is now in a third country.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/Mystery200806.jpg

Think it's time for an updated type list! Anyone?

jumpuFOKKERjump
20th Aug 2006, 06:29
Focke-Wulf 190?

JDK
20th Aug 2006, 07:12
No, no, no.

Wrong in all aspects.

Have another go?

MReyn24050
20th Aug 2006, 08:45
Curtiss P40 Warhawk perhaps?

JDK
20th Aug 2006, 09:32
Curtiss P-40 it is. Ray Hanna's mount on occasion as part of the Breitling Fighters, as here at Duxford, and later in NZ.

Yours Mel.

MReyn24050
20th Aug 2006, 10:01
Thanks JDK. Regarding updated list please check your PMs JDK.
Well this one I am sure will not tax you chaps too much on a Sunday.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz171.jpg
Mel

jabberwok
21st Aug 2006, 00:37
Surely the DH80A Puss Moth - the split glass side window version with that lovely drop down map reading table.

Away for 24 hours so carry on with the pictures.

MReyn24050
21st Aug 2006, 07:05
jabberwok
:ok: You have it. It is the DH80A Puss Moth - the split glass side window version with that lovely drop down map reading table.:D
Anyone wish to take up jabberwok's offer and post the next picture?
Mel

Speedpig
21st Aug 2006, 10:45
If I may?
Seeing as I usually fail miserably with my guessing.
I don't think this one has been done yet..
http://www.speedpig001.com/WhatCockpit.jpg

sedburgh
21st Aug 2006, 14:13
Northrop Flying Wing ( B-35 or B-49 ) ?

Speedpig
21st Aug 2006, 19:06
Northrop Flying Wing ( B-35 or B-49 ) ?
Which one?

evansb
22nd Aug 2006, 03:48
Good question! Most larger Northrops had control yokes and the only cockpit photo I found of an XB-35 showed both pilot and co-pilot's cockpit fitted with control yokes NOT joy sticks. Perhaps this is the largest aircraft ever to fly with a joy stick. Curiously, most photos show both the YB-35 and Y(X)B-49 with what appears to be a single piece wind screen, not the all-weather type portrayed. Given that the YB-49 was built in greater quantity and involved in service testing, I will say it is a YRB-49
cockpit.

Speedpig
22nd Aug 2006, 14:06
'Tis this one.


http://www.speedpig001.com/yrb49_title.jpg
A glorious beast years ahead of her time, scrapped by the US government in favour of the tried and tested B-36 "Peacemaker". This is the YRB-49.
The problem I have now is, deciding between sedburgh who was close and possibly sowed the seed for evansb to get it spot on through deduction. So, very highly commended to sedburgh but top prize to evansb for accuracy. You have control sir.

evansb
22nd Aug 2006, 18:59
Your assistance in this photo was helpful. I will pass it over to you.

P.S. Where do I access a list of previous cockpit photo posts?

Best regards..

MReyn24050
22nd Aug 2006, 19:08
evansb
sedburgh
Your assistance in this photo was helpful. I will pass it over to you.
P.S. Where do I access a list of previous cockpit photo posts?
Best regards..
I can give you a list. Check your PM. Anyone else is welcome providing you forward your email address as I am unable to provide a URL.
Mel

MReyn24050
22nd Aug 2006, 21:40
Current List. Please advise if this link works. If unsuccesful I will delete.
Mel
http://us.f13.yahoofs.com/bc/44558bf5m7f9a4517/bc/Current+List..xls?bfl236EB1hLvERRw

sedburgh
22nd Aug 2006, 23:16
Well let's try this one - hope the image posting works!
http://snap21.photobox.co.uk/36092362cceb53302e0bdbc74ead1714ab8731574af64d1416af0f9e.jpg

Conan the Librarian
23rd Aug 2006, 00:26
No image showing here. It looks as though it has been hidden from public scrutiny. Therefore, I go for Vulcan B.2 XH558.

Conan

evansb
23rd Aug 2006, 05:28
yahoofs link unsuccessful. Suggest delete.

Regards

JDK
23rd Aug 2006, 06:36
It's the Photobox ImageNotAvailable MkIB.

sedburgh
23rd Aug 2006, 07:09
It's the Photobox ImageNotAvailable MkIB.
OK you win - why don't you take over while I sort that out.

treadigraph
23rd Aug 2006, 07:45
I can't open the list Mel - not getting any squeaks from NetNanny (I'm at work) so not sure what the problem is.

JDK
23rd Aug 2006, 08:05
Taking over assmumes I'm prepared, as well as a smart aleck...

[Quick flurry of activity...]

Don't think we've had this one yet. Not one of my photos, but an historical one.

Its sisters have been in the quiz, but this was a one off, although you didn't have to hold your breath...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v708/JDK2/CockpitQuiz/Mystery230806.jpg

Philthy
23rd Aug 2006, 08:11
...this was a one off, although you didn't have to hold your breath...

Not Wiley Post's Lockheed Vega?

MReyn24050
23rd Aug 2006, 08:24
It is definately a Lockheed Electra, but the XC-35 perhaps? The 'sub-stratosphere' research aircraft of the USAAC, nicknamed The Boiler.

JDK
23rd Aug 2006, 10:26
Philthy got Lockheed, but Mel sweeps the pool.

Thought it would last a bit longer!

Yours, Mel.

MReyn24050
23rd Aug 2006, 10:48
Thanks JDK. Sorry for jumping in so quick but I had this cockpit on file and found it when researching the Lockheed L-12A Electra Junior you put up in July.
I am sure the next one will go as quickly.
Mel
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Aircraft/Cockpit%20quiz/Cockpitquiz170.jpg

Philthy
23rd Aug 2006, 10:57
Grumman G.21 Goose?

MReyn24050
23rd Aug 2006, 10:59
Philthy

:D Well done I said it wouldn't last long. 9 minutes must be the record :ok:

You have control Sir:ok:

Mel

JDK
23rd Aug 2006, 11:12
...and I posted the RCMP Goose's cockpit some time back.

Should we relax the 'one pic for one type, no repeats' rule, or try and keep it?

I don't mind, and it's getting easier to accidentally duplicate a previous post...

Ah'm awaiting your best shot Philthy...

MReyn24050
23rd Aug 2006, 11:37
JDK
I apologise :O . You certainly did, it was CF-MPG,which you put up in Jan this year. Sorry my error was in not connecting the two when I checked the list of Published Cockpits for Grumman Goose. I didn't notice it as I had it listed as the G-21A and at the time did not connect the two. However I think we should try not to repeat cockpits.
Mel

Philthy
23rd Aug 2006, 11:44
Well, this isn't exactly my best shot and I don't suppose it will last long:
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l158/Philthy88/10.jpg

jabberwok
23rd Aug 2006, 14:40
Half of me thinks this is too easy and there must be a trick.

Tiger Moth cockpit - but it could also be the Queen Bee or Jackaroo.

Speedpig
23rd Aug 2006, 17:44
Unless the gipsy major plaque is a red herring, I agree jabberwok. The Chipmunk had a gipsy major engine too but I don't think it's one of them.

Speedpig
23rd Aug 2006, 17:48
OK, I guess DH80A Puss Moth

Philthy
23rd Aug 2006, 20:00
Sorry for the delay - I had to hit the sack.

Jabberwok, it was too easy wasn't it? No tricks, it was D.H.82A Tiger Moth VH-FAH, taken on a most memorable flight. You can even just see the Philthy knee...

Handing over...

jabberwok
23rd Aug 2006, 23:41
Open house again folks - my barrel is empty.

seacue
24th Aug 2006, 02:25
To fill the void.....

http://users.erols.com/rcarpen/cpit4.jpg

MReyn24050
24th Aug 2006, 10:52
Judging by the control wheel, compass etc it must be 1915-1920 era. Possibly a trainer. Perhaps the Curtiss JN-3 Trainer which had the Deperdussin control featuring a wheel for aileron control and foot bar for rudder.

JDK
24th Aug 2006, 11:15
Hmmm. SVA?

seacue
24th Aug 2006, 11:20
Considerably newer than Mel's guess.
Not SVA.

MReyn24050
24th Aug 2006, 12:13
Packard Diesel powered WACO Taperwing, HSO X4N, 1929?

seacue
24th Aug 2006, 13:18
I should have said "A few years later". 1929 is too late. You're in the correct country.

evansb
24th Aug 2006, 16:48
Consolidated 21-C PT-11 ?

seacue
24th Aug 2006, 17:02
evansb

Year of introduction about right but the wrong company and aircraft.

MReyn24050
24th Aug 2006, 17:13
Curtiss JNS 1923?

MReyn24050
24th Aug 2006, 17:58
evansb
Year of introduction about right but the wrong company and aircraft.
I thought the Consolidated 21-C PT-11 flew 1931, yet earlier you said 1929 was to late for the aircraft in question?

seacue
24th Aug 2006, 18:00
Later than 1923. It and its close descendents totaled perhaps 100 examples.

I don't know much about the PT-11 but the most-detailed description I found said it was introduced in 1925.

Next couple of hints will be more specific......

MReyn24050
24th Aug 2006, 20:49
Sikorsky S-31 or S-32?

seacue
24th Aug 2006, 21:03
Not Sikorsky.

As best I can tell, a young fellow named Leroy xxxx had a major hand in building this aeroplane.

evansb
24th Aug 2006, 21:06
Loening OA-1A Amphibian (OL-5 for the Coast Guard)

seacue
24th Aug 2006, 21:24
Bingo evansb

The Loening OA-1A San Francisco about to set off for the 22,000 mile Goodwill Tour of the Americas. The tour started just before Christmas 1926 and took four months.
http://users.erols.com/rcarpen/cpit5.jpg
Five OA-1As set out. One and its crew were lost in a midair collision.

Leroy Grumman was plant supervisor for Loening just after graduating from MIT. The Loening eventually got an aircooled radial engine as the OL-8 and Grumman's own company made similar 'planes for a while.

The OA-1A was built at 31st Street in Manhattan, New York City. Probably the only serious aircraft factory ever in the City.

Grover Loening published a book on his Amphibians.
ISBN 0-8212-0474-2 (1973)

Over to you evansb.

MReyn24050
24th Aug 2006, 21:43
seacue
:ok: Great Challenge!

seacue
24th Aug 2006, 21:54
Thanks Mel.

I had more obscure hints that could have dragged things out, but I didn't want to be tied down tomorrow answering guesses.

bob

evansb
25th Aug 2006, 01:44
I enjoyed the research! Check out the link and see where the sorry old wireless op sat in the Loening.

http://www.uscg.mil/HQ/G-CP/HISTORY/WEBEAIRCRAFT/Loening_OL5_3.jpg

I stored a Barkley-Grow and a Fleet-7 cockpit on the host only to find they have already been posted on the list that Mel so kindly e-mailed. I'll be a while, so this forum is now open to the rest of you boffins to post pics.
Bri

seacue
25th Aug 2006, 10:20
Try this URL for Coast Guard Loening OL-5 pictures:
http://www.uscg.mil/history/webaircraft/loening%5Fol5.html

ormus55
25th Aug 2006, 11:19
my first go. hope this works. ive searched pprune and cannot find any, so dont shout at me if its been done!
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k162/ormus55/guesswhat/guess1.jpg

treadigraph
25th Aug 2006, 11:29
I'd guess a small helicopter - Saro Skeeter? Probably way off beam...

ormus55
25th Aug 2006, 11:34
well i thought it might last a bit longer than that!
well done.

it is indeed a skeeter, (now g-blix).

over to you, roger and out.

JENKINS
25th Aug 2006, 11:47
Couldn't work out, as I cycled the local lanes - must keep fit, medical in 3 months - why my thoughts strayed to "Skeeter." Now I know!!

Famil flight in a Skeeter over Salisbury Plain in 19??.

treadigraph
25th Aug 2006, 12:12
Lucky guess! I haven't got any I'm afraid... you have control again (or anybody else...)