GA use in Courting [Archive]

Fournicator

17th Jul 2006, 17:05

Right, in contrast to my apparently somewhat controversial previous thread, methinks tis time for something altogether more lighthearted.

Inspired by a particularly fine specimen of the female form I spotted in a flying club I visited at the weekend (although obviously I didn't notice for anything more than a passing second, having as I do an exceptionally beautiful young lady friend), I'd like to ask the fine members of this forum whether they've ever used their aviation skills to (or at least attempt to) woo pretty young ladies?

I've taken young ladies with whom I've been romantically linked flying in the past; once in a glider and once in SEP. Interestingly, I'm no longer on speaking terms with both of them. While I would initially think these bits of information aren't connected, who really knows how the female brain works?

Hopefully my partner in crime around these parts will be along soon to tell of his experiences filling three seats of a four-seater with a veritable harem of young ladies.

Incidentally, before I'm attacked by any bra-burners, I did start my using the term "lighthearted"; I would be genuinely interested to hear from any lady aviators out there who've taken people with Y-chromosones up in an effort to get into their undies.

Martin @ EGLK

17th Jul 2006, 17:33

Oh definitely.

There's nothing like a surprise trip to the IoW for lunch to get things going ;)

S-Works

17th Jul 2006, 17:41

:) Bah! Never works for me on the wife, she hates flying but did manage to suffer the Europe tour last week as it had hotels and champagne and the end of each leg. For some reason she prefers to drive my Porsche to the shops and buy shoes while I go flying.....

Lucy Lastic

17th Jul 2006, 18:48

Legalapproach

17th Jul 2006, 19:52

Shoes? Don't talk to me about shoes. Missapproach obsessed by them. Flew her and the other sprogs down to their grandparents at the weekend and she had her head stuck in Teen Vogue for most of the flight. When I asked whether they were having a good time there were just a series of grunts. I would have given my right arm and test**** to be flying at their age.

Mrsapproach just says, what do you expect they have been used to it from being babies?

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IO540

17th Jul 2006, 19:57

Lucy,

As someone who has been hanging around this scene (often involuntarily) for about 6 years, I am pleased to inform you that at the average airfield there is close to zero chance of a pilot "mankying about with other women" - other than a sprinkling of bored "pilots' girlfriends" I doubt there has been much interesting scenery around UK's airfields since the end of WW2 :)

I think it's fair to say there is no problem with taking a gurl up in a nice tourer, somewhere nice, on a nice sunny (but calm) day. Most women seem to really like that. But equally most women will at best only reluctantly climb into the average rented spamcan whose interior looks and works (and stinks) like the inside of a non-restored Vauxhall Viva.

If there were more pilots flying nice modern planes to interesting far away places, there would be far more women hanging around airfields. And more women means more men with more than 2p to rub together would turn up, which of course means a whole big pile of women coming along :) ... and all of a sudden you have quite a healthy bit of activity going!

Unfortunately, such a suggestion is seen by most pilots - a bunch of back-to-basics anorak-wearing traditionalists - as tantamount to a declaration of war. Just want and see.... I am getting my coat.

Fournicator

17th Jul 2006, 20:37

I'm liking the thinking - let's somehow persuade gorgeous women to hang around UK minor airfields, thereby kickstarting a revitalisation of the UK GA scene. Oh yes..........

Aeronut

17th Jul 2006, 22:41

I proposed with a banner towed over Cocoa beach if that counts?

Keygrip

18th Jul 2006, 02:15

I've got a bottle of Southern Comfort on permanent hold.

She'll share it with me one day (unless she read the very damning comment in the "Funny Signs" thread in Jet Blast).

I---I

mazzy1026

18th Jul 2006, 09:46

Take it from me, girls look on pilots as 'work in progress' - they have money tied up in aeroplanes that can easily be converted into shoes or holidays.

Although it is useful to know that our men are fully occupied on an airfield, and not mankying about with other women, we would prefer them to give up this unnatural activity!!

Lucy - I was having the problem of how to describe my gf's feelings towards flying, that is until you summed it up perfectly! I took her flying, and although she did enjoy the experience, it just wasn't the same as going up to her and saying "Here is a thousand quid to go and spend on shoes" to which I am sure her delights would have been far greater!

Conclusion - be single and "tout the totty" at the airfield :E

MichaelJP59

18th Jul 2006, 10:25

If there were more pilots flying nice modern planes to interesting far away places, there would be far more women hanging around airfields...
Unfortunately, such a suggestion is seen by most pilots - a bunch of back-to-basics anorak-wearing traditionalists - as tantamount to a declaration of war. Just want and see.... I am getting my coat.

I don't know, I think most of us would love to fly our girlfriends/wives/SOs over to Cannes for the weekend in our Eclipse 500 personal jet. Unfortunately the budget of most PPLs only extends to hiring a 30 year-old tatty spamcan to fly to somewhere within a 100 mile radius. And that somewhere is usually a very similar scruffy ex-WW2 airfield to the one we took off from:)

UAV689

18th Jul 2006, 10:37

recently blagged a bird in a club after chatting to her about flying, never fails!

IO540

18th Jul 2006, 13:33

You don't need a personal jet, but you do need something a lot better than a Vauxhall Viva :)

I am fairly reliably informed that helicopters are best for this purpose though.

Depends on whether you go for quality. With a jet you will definitely pull some gurlz but their operating cost will probably be comparable to the jet.

Fournicator

18th Jul 2006, 14:31

UAV:

The world would be a better place without people like you. Fact. Go pretend to be a lighthouse painter, biscuit factory manager, snake dentist, whatever. Just NEVER a pilot.

I know of someone else who could also be described with a Uniform Alpha trigraph, trying to be the big boy and impress girls with tales of his "part time pilot training". ****.

Met the current girly in a club too, was insistent I was a milkman. She knew I was lying, but that's not the point. Re-arrange these words to form a well-known phrase or saying: In. Box. Your. Get.

Sorry to everyone else for inflicting that rant on you, idiots like the above who try to impress girls with their meagre aviation abilities are a particular bugbear of mine.

S-Works

18th Jul 2006, 14:41

Christ I am glad I try to impress them with my "massive" talents then........:O

Fournicator

18th Jul 2006, 14:49

If you're reliant on pilot chat to pull girls, you really do have to question what you're doing with your life..........

Dimensional

18th Jul 2006, 15:15

Whereas you, F, just wait until you're in someone's undercrackers before boring them silly with pilot chat...

Whirlygig

18th Jul 2006, 15:19

If you're reliant on pilot chat to pull girls, you really do have to question what you're doing with your life..........

:hmm: :hmm: I thought that was the whole point of this thread! :zzz: :zzz:

Cheers

Whirls

.... who is not impressed by men who can fly and doesn't own many shoes.

Fournicator

18th Jul 2006, 15:24

Whirls:
It may seem subtle at first, but to me at least the difference is massive. Taking a girl you're already romantically involved with flying in a puddlejumper or somesuch, and using the "I'm a pilot" line in a club are leagues apart.
Maybe not to others, can see how confusion may arise, but surely I'm not alone on this one? It's all about being the england croquet team or something similar when out on the razzle!

Taildragger55

18th Jul 2006, 15:26

I am told that in Saudi Arabia it is illegal for a man and an (unrelated) woman to fly together in a microlight in cast they get up to anything norty.
Talk about pilot induced oscillation.

mazzy1026

18th Jul 2006, 15:27

Taking a girl you're already romantically involved with flying in a puddlejumper or somesuch, and using the "I'm a pilot" line in a club are leagues apart.

I have to admit - I for one never like to bring up the subject myself. If I was to see another guy bring up the subject "Hey I am a pilot"...... (bragging to55er) :} Even when someone brings it up in conversation, I tend to change the subject (forget the talking baby, come and see my hangar) :E

Whirlygig

18th Jul 2006, 15:28

Well it's lost on me Fournicator but then, so is the whole thread.

Cheers

Whirls

gcolyer

18th Jul 2006, 16:27

Oh definitely.

There's nothing like a surprise trip to the IoW for lunch to get things going ;)

IoW??? there has to be better surprises than IoW!!

:ooh:

Fournicator

18th Jul 2006, 16:57

Dim-wit:
Perhaps if you used words such as "undercrackers" less frequently, you would find yourself in them more frequently......
But yes, you're right, as you of all people well know!

JW411

18th Jul 2006, 17:23

I have never ceased to be amazed by how much money men will spend in the pursuit of impossible goals.

Wake up gentlemen, it is the other sex that does the deciding. It doesn't matter if you have a microlight or a Gulfstream V, if she doesn't fancy you it doesn't matter a t*ss.

Save yourself a fortune and make yourself a very expensive person to get to know!

Gertrude the Wombat

18th Jul 2006, 22:04

effortless

18th Jul 2006, 22:12

The whole point of getting learning to fly was inorder to take well bred young ladies to LeTouquet for er, lunch. Wasn't Lydd so very prone to fog? Happy days.:cool:

ChampChump

18th Jul 2006, 23:01

Indeed an odd thread...
Having discovered the flying bit before the fact that airfields contain more men than women, I'm pretty certain I don't represent the females that this thread seems to be concerned with. However, the fact is that my best friendships have been made there, wherever there happens to have been, with a very few extra special friendships evolving through the shared territory.
In an unscientific, disinterested, sporadic observation, I've noticed that flying has made and broken many relationships, probably in equal number.
If one wants to impress a female, the lunch in Le Touquet may only impress one person and possibly only on one occasion; I'd be more concerned about what such a display reveals to all the others on the airfield with whom one may well need to mix for considerably longer.
'Propellorhead' explored the issue before you...take heed......:E

Keygrip

18th Jul 2006, 23:56

Southern Comfort not going to crack it then?

ChampChump

19th Jul 2006, 00:59

Once upon a time, perhaps.
I seem to have developed a taste for champagne and single malt now...:hmm:
To be truthful, a good ice cream on a quiet beach within walking distance of the two aeroplanes tied down side by side.......hard to beat....;)

BeechNut

19th Jul 2006, 01:12

I did take Mrs GtW for a ride in a 152 before she was Mrs GtW ... she was very insistent on giving her name as "Dr. ..." when filling in the club form so that they wouldn't think she was just a dumb blonde who was exchanging ... er, who knows what ... for a plane ride.
(Now she won't let me take her flying. We're not allowed to be both in the same light aircraft, leaving the kids on the ground, unless there's a "real" pilot along.)

Hah, this is exactly the same problem I have with Mrs. Beechnut. When I was young and single and was dating her, I took her up many times in my old C150 and she pretended to enjoy it. Once when we lived apart due to work/education issues, she flew into CYOW, and to be gallant, rather than driving the 60 miles to pick her up with the car, I drove 40 miles to the airfield, rented a brand-spanking new C172, and flew to CYOW to pick her up. She pretended to fancy that too.

Seems to me that this isn't the only thing women pretend to enjoy before they're married, and which they give up the minute they have a ring on the finger and rugrats running around the house...I'll leave those other things up to your imaginations.

Fat chance I'll ever get her into my Beech, or to even like any of my pilot buddies.

splatt

19th Jul 2006, 06:59

I can relate to this thread, but from a different angle.

I had a weekend flying lesson booked last year. My girlfriend usually comes along on weekend lessons and, like the weekends before, we spent the time before my lesson playing pool against eachother. She's pretty good at pool so when it came time for me to get airborne I left her playing against some of the other club members.

After an hour or so lesson we landed and taxied back to park up. I walk into the building eager to find out who won the game and let my girlfriend know that we'll be leaving soon. I couldn't find her anywhere nor could I find the guy she was playing pool against! My instructor correlates a missing plane with the missing people and asks the ops staff what's going on. Op's confirms that, "the couple playing pool went flying together". "Unfair!!", I think to myself. He beat me to it. Ok. Ok. We did sneak her on one training flight before but I wasn't PIC that time.

As I think how unfair it is I notice my instructor starting to go quite pale and seem very concerned that the guy who is flying her actually doesn't have his PPL yet! Horror of horrors! :sad: What am I going to tell the future in-laws! Afer a few minutes of terror thankfully a bit of confusion over the pilot's name was noticed and it was ascertained he did indeed have his PPL - but only just! A short while later the two of them waltz back into the building headsets in hand.

The moral of the story? Leave your loved ones at home! := :}

splatt

EGBKFLYER

19th Jul 2006, 07:27

Is this like the old flying club poster:

WANTED

Woman. Must be able to cook, sew and navigate. Must have own aeroplane and hangar. Please send picture of aeroplane and hangar.

I'm still looking...

Whirlybird

19th Jul 2006, 08:11

Wake up gentlemen, it is the other sex that does the deciding. It doesn't matter if you have a microlight or a Gulfstream V, if she doesn't fancy you it doesn't matter a t*ss.

Most sensible comment on this thread so far. :ok: But don't let truth get in the way of a good discussion. ;)

EGBKFLYER

19th Jul 2006, 08:30

Nearly - I think the sort of partner most of us would look for IS the type that would love a microlight or G5 equally, but I fear they are rare...

splatt

19th Jul 2006, 08:41

EGBKFLYER,

I have just such a partner! She actually wants me to do my PPL (despite the fact I do not have any life assurance LOL), she wants us to get a share in or buy a plane, she was even OK with the idea that our first home might have to be an aeroplane hangar, and she also wanted to do her PPL but I think we've now settled on her doing the AOPA flying companion course. I accept payments in the form of cash, land, or cattle :}

splatt

mazzy1026

19th Jul 2006, 08:44

exchanging ... er, who knows what ... for a plane ride
Fluid :E

So come on lay-deez, if flying won't do it for you then what will ? :ooh:

Mad Girl

19th Jul 2006, 08:51

Fluid :E

So come on lay-deez, if flying won't do it for you then what will ? :ooh:

The same sort of things as for people who don't fly!!!

Decent human being, brilliant sense of humour, big heart, generous spirit (& I also don't have a lot of shoes!!), let me run off and play at the flying club whenever I want to... - and most of all he has to love me... totally, absolutely & wholeheartedly.

But I've already got one of them so hard luck!!!

mazzy1026

19th Jul 2006, 08:56

Decent human being, brilliant sense of humour, big heart, generous spirit
SORTED ! :)

S-Works

19th Jul 2006, 10:42

The same sort of things as for people who don't fly!!!

Decent human being, brilliant sense of humour, big heart, generous spirit (& I also don't have a lot of shoes!!), let me run off and play at the flying club whenever I want to... - and most of all he has to love me... totally, absolutely & wholeheartedly.

But I've already got one of them so hard luck!!!

Are we married?:p

Mad Girl

19th Jul 2006, 11:30

Are we married?:p

Do you like getting yourself into unusual attitudes:E ???

No, :hmm: on second thoughts....!! - I've been living in smut (sin, pleasure etc) for years and need far more practise before I let my man stick another ring on my finger. :\

Gertrude the Wombat

19th Jul 2006, 17:18

Seems to me that this isn't the only thing women pretend to enjoy before they're married, and which they give up the minute they have a ring on the finger and rugrats running around the house...
No no, it's not that, she's perfectly happy to be in a small aeroplane with me, especially if it's a Beaver on floats, it's just that there needs to be a "real" pilot there, not just me.

(Although she has relented a bit. I am now allowed to take some of the children up with no other pilot, just not all of them at once.)

mazzy1026

20th Jul 2006, 08:19

Beaver on floats
Now this is just getting 'smuttier' by the minutes! :p

formationfoto

22nd Jul 2006, 17:49

I believe that this is the first lesson for aircrew. Page one, item one - how to use your aviation connections for fuelling lust.

Have been at a number of RAF bases recently when the libido was high and received the response 'all aircrew are the same'.

It is sad really but hey - you only live once.

Just been watching an expert in action this afternoon at Elmsett - come and fly in my Yak and you can play with my joystick. Took one girl for aeros then tried to persuade her friend. Sadly friend wasnt interested but the first girls mother volunteered. Not quite what he was hoping for.

aerobatic_dude

23rd Jul 2006, 20:33

My father always said to me. " You can have flying or a woman ".

So I went off and got myself a flying-woman.

Whereas most couples go for a romantic walk on the beach, we go for romantic walks around the hangars, and ramp. Strange really.

scooter boy

21st Aug 2006, 22:33

Sorry chaps - missed this thread while it was warm.

All I can say is that those of us comprising the fatter and uglier quadrant :8 of the pilot demographic need all the help we can get when it comes to finding a mate!

Of course it is sad to boast about being an airline captain when you haven't enrolled on your PPL course yet but, hey, if the line works for you and if she is dumb enough to believe it then where's the harm? All is fair in love and war.

As for the point about the gulfstream V not making you sexy I am sorry but even Quasimodo would definitely have pulled with one of those. Now if he also had a decent helicopter he could have found himself a supermodel! A certain diminutive director or formula 1 with a beautiful croatian model wife springs to mind. Money talks I'm afraid, gentlemen.

Scooter girl still embarrases me publicly every time anybody asks how we met (10 years and sprogs ago) by recounting my trying to impress her by taking her flying on our first date.:O Personally I think it was the glint of the 5 bar Air Vice Marshall gold epaulettes that clinched it in my favour - ;) they certainly diverted her attention away from the crappy old cessna I had rented.

It worked though!

SB