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alwayzinit
30th Jun 2006, 13:55
I note from today's Daily Telegraph that the Argentinians are stoking the "Malvinas" fires AGAIN!

Didn't take long for them to notice the demise of the Sea Harrier...... could even be the prelude from the book "Ghost Force".

I wonder what is going to happen next or will TB/GB just give it up?

Alwayz

vecvechookattack
30th Jun 2006, 13:59
Tee Hee....funny


http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=232717

SASless
30th Jun 2006, 15:43
Hey! Hey! Hold on a mo!

Why drag Bush into this affair? It is sovreign British soil, a British concern, you think we always bungle anything we get involved with, its nothing to do with us Mate!

You did it on your own last time....carry on without us would you please. Your bunch in Iraq are getting ready to pull up stakes and fold their tents there....send home by way of the FI and sort out the Argies one more time will you.

Take all your carriers and cat launched aircraft and get on with it.

Now if you want a real deal on a Nimitz Class....wet lease deal...contract with us and we will be glad to take a cruise south for a bit.

Spanish Waltzer
30th Jun 2006, 16:04
SASless - ok I'll bite........

You will notice a distinct lack of 'w' between the 'G' & the 'B'. Whilst you may think the Brits always need to rely on you lot, I think in this case alwayzinit may well have been referring to the likely next 'president' of the United Kingdom rather than your man.....

I will of course stand corrected if required..............

;)

Gainesy
30th Jun 2006, 16:17
The term "wet lease" applied to a boat makes me feel a tad uncomfortable.:uhoh:

Pontius Navigator
30th Jun 2006, 17:32
Appartnly the Ark, on her last commission, sailed with all lower water tight hatches secured. To go below you had to get clearance from damage control to ensure that a limited number of hatches were open at one time.

My informant, at one point, opened up a hatch just above the water line to discover the compartment, and it was presummed correctly the 5 below, was filled with the wet stuff.

It seems a sea cock had sheered and they had to get a number of 12 inch pumps to pump it out enough to secure the leaking compartment.

The old Ark was rotting to pieces. Remember she was laid down in 1944 and not launched until about 1950-51.

She would have been great for a wet lease.

cazatou
30th Jun 2006, 19:51
Perhaps it would be a good idea for people to look at active threads before they start new ones.

PompeySailor
30th Jun 2006, 20:06
Appartnly the Ark, on her last commission, sailed with all lower water tight hatches secured. To go below you had to get clearance from damage control to ensure that a limited number of hatches were open at one time.

My informant, at one point, opened up a hatch just above the water line to discover the compartment, and it was presummed correctly the 5 below, was filled with the wet stuff.

It seems a sea cock had sheered and they had to get a number of 12 inch pumps to pump it out enough to secure the leaking compartment.

The old Ark was rotting to pieces. Remember she was laid down in 1944 and not launched until about 1950-51.

She would have been great for a wet lease.

True, she sailed in condition Yankee and access to compartments below the waterline were controlled from the SCR on a tally basis, so that only a certain number fore and aft were ever open at once.

As regards flooding, don't want to worry you light blue chaps but we quite often open a compartment to be met with wet stuff - and not always below the waterline! Cross connections of magazine sprays is a fave...

SASless
30th Jun 2006, 20:06
Walts,

If that is correct....accept my most humble apology. I am so used to Georgie Boy getting blamed for everything from Gout to Tsunami's that am spring loaded to read that way out of habit.

Now as to the lease arrangement....take two and get one for half price for the first month and no interest accrues till 2008.

Melchett01
30th Jun 2006, 22:02
Didn't take long for them to notice the demise of the Sea Harrier
Nothing to do with that, it's their General Election in 2007.

2+2=......

Navaleye
2nd Jul 2006, 12:22
True, she sailed in condition Yankee and access to compartments below the waterline were controlled from the SCR on a tally basis, so that only a certain number fore and aft were ever open at once.


Yes I heard similar stores, although I think many were "slightly inflated". She did carry more than her fair share of concrete on board towards the end. As much as I would have liked to have seen her life extended, I think she really was past it by 1978 and a SLEP rather than a refit would have been required to keep her going.

chevvron
2nd Jul 2006, 13:10
The present labour government will give them up; haven't you noticed how they hate our armed forces and will do anything to give them a 'slap in the face'? Armed forces cost money, money which Labour would much rather spend on more civil servants to boost their over inflated ego.

WE Branch Fanatic
2nd Jul 2006, 15:37
alwayzinit

Well done for mentioning the premature retirement of the Sea Harrier. As discussed at length here (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98152). Hopefully the ones sent down to SFDO at Culdrose will be looked after reasonably well - just in case, and to give dodgy regimes something to consider.

Taildragger67
2nd Jul 2006, 17:37
Appartnly the Ark, on her last commission, sailed with all lower water tight hatches secured. To go below you had to get clearance from damage control to ensure that a limited number of hatches were open at one time.
My informant, at one point, opened up a hatch just above the water line to discover the compartment, and it was presummed correctly the 5 below, was filled with the wet stuff.
It seems a sea cock had sheered and they had to get a number of 12 inch pumps to pump it out enough to secure the leaking compartment.
The old Ark was rotting to pieces. Remember she was laid down in 1944 and not launched until about 1950-51.
She would have been great for a wet lease.

I take it you mean the Ark wot they launched the piano off the front of, and not the ski-jump equipped vessel of same name?

Fairly drastic if it's rusting through after only 20-25 years...

NURSE
3rd Jul 2006, 07:41
The annoying thing is that through out her life HMS Eagle was mechanically and Physically in better condition than ark royal.