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Vertolot
28th May 2006, 11:30
Hi,

Is there anybody out there who could shear some information on what kind of working schemes /rosters the big HEMS companies are using in Europe. To be more precise I'm interested to know how Standby Duty is counted towards Annual Working Time?

Thanks in advance,

Bertie Thruster
28th May 2006, 18:54
UK. 6 on, 3 off. 6 on, 4 off. 10 hr shifts. I dont think annual working hours is a factor.

Woolf
28th May 2006, 21:02
It certainly is an issue with SAR operators as most FTL schemes are close to the 2000h limit if standby duty is counted in full. The Department of Transport has issued the following recommendation:

http://http://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_aviation/documents/page/dft_aviation_611444.hcsp

At the moment it looks as though standby duty is fully accountable towards the 2000h yearly total. The recommendation however is to align the directive with CAP371 which in certain circumstances will half duty spent on standby.

Woolf

Vertolot
29th May 2006, 05:16
Bertie Thruster,

I just did a fast calculation and got that you are ruffly getting 180 duty hours a month (28 days). This 180 hrs x11 would give 1980 hrs so just under the 2000 hour limit.

How many crews do you need to run one HEMS helicopter and do you are stanby 24/7?

Vertolot
29th May 2006, 05:21
Woolf,

Do you know what the status is of the Departemnt of Transports recommendation?

It looks like there are a mismatch in some European countries between the national legislation and the EU directive which states that "some of the stanby duty time should be calculated as working time".

Bertie Thruster
29th May 2006, 14:22
Vertolot. On standby 10hr/day, 365.

(Remember; 13x28 day 'months' in year! So 12x180=2160 hrs/year)

Regards, BT

Vertolot
31st May 2006, 05:45
BT,

How much do you fly in average per shift? Do you fly Single Pilot or Multi Pilot?

Vertolot

Bertie Thruster
31st May 2006, 09:05
216 shifts. 230 hr/yr. Approx 1hr 10 min per shift. Single pilot.

(216 shifts= approx 575 'jobs')

Regards, BT

MightyGem
31st May 2006, 09:26
Don't forget holiday time. We work 12hr shifts on a 4 day system. This gives us 2208 hrs/year, but deduct 5 shifts for holidays and that brings it down to 1968.

Bertie Thruster
31st May 2006, 12:57
MG, you are strictly correct re holiday time.

So- 10 hr shifts on a 6 on 3 off, 6 on 4 off system, gives 2305 hrs/yr. Deduct holidays (280 hrs) gives 2025 hrs. Closer to 2000, but still over!

BT

Vertolot
31st May 2006, 18:47
OK, Thanks for the replies!

Vertolot