BA orders 20 new B777s...

[tristar500]

Any truth to the rumour that BA has ordered an initial batch of 20 B777-236LRs. Heard this yeaterday from a usually reliable source from within the airline industry. However the deal is being kept quiet until some sort of pension agreement can be agreed.

[overstress]

See the thread on BA strike...

Some say this same rumour comes from some 'tiddly' Boeing salesmen travelling back to SEA in 1st with BA... couldn't help boasting about the deal...
now if BA say they can't afford the pensions deficit we won't believe them... :suspect:

[akerosid]

Doesn't make much sense to me; I would have thought -300ERs would be a lot more likely.

What routes would BA want to operate -200LRs on, that can't be operated by -200ERs?

Anyway, as said above, they aren't expected to make any orders until the whole pensions issue has been sorted out.

[Da Dog]

I dunno about ordering 20 new 777s, but I do know that WW and Martin George have sold a bundle of shares over the last few days topping over a quater of a mill:*

[M.Mouse]

Perhaps that was to make the deposit on the HP?

[BahrainLad]

Cannot see -200LRs in the fleet in any meaningful quantities...much more likely to be -300ERs as they're a good Classic/744 replacement and after all, actually cheaper per copy than the -200LR!

[Human Factor]

It'll be -300ERs and possibly some -200s. Expect to hear in April once the pension issue has been resolved (either way). ;)

The big question: will BA become a launch customer for the 747-800?

[yachtno1]

For me the bigger question refers to the pension debate HF !:oh:

[theflyer1735]

The 200 is a beautiful looking machine. Here hoping...

[MarkD]

I wonder which mod took exception to my question to t500 (where's your question mark). I didn't realise I had acquired 411A's reputation for abusing people. The post article header is misleading - it reads as if an announcement has been made so the OP can drag some attention to a question which should be in, well, Questions or AA&R. Hopefully t500 will have the manners to change it him/herself.

[tristar500]

Whatever MarkD...

If only we were all as 'smart' as you:ok:

[Re-Heat]

No - nothing will be done until the pension shortfall is covered by agreement with employees. BA also currently refuse to be involved in any lauch aircraft.

Have a look at Flight's comments on the matter a couple of weeks ago through interview with BA.

[Oshkosh George]

I wonder which mod took exception to my question to t500 (where's your question mark). I didn't realise I had acquired 411A's reputation for abusing people. The post article header is misleading - it reads as if an announcement has been made so the OP can drag some attention to a question which should be in, well, Questions or AA&R. Hopefully t500 will have the manners to change it him/herself.


I'm with Mark on this one. I read the thread because it seems to be news,but ,of course,is only a question. It IS annoying,Tristar!:*

[Volmet South]

Any truth to the rumour that BA has ordered an initial batch of 20 B777-236LRs. Heard this yeaterday from a usually reliable source from within the airline industry. However the deal is being kept quiet until some sort of pension agreement can be agreed.


In short, yes. My impeccable source tells me that the aircraft are -300's and that Boeing's press people have been told to keep quiet due to the pensions arguement.

[flyer55]

Hot rumour is that Boeing have signed an deal wil BA for New Aircraft but it will not be announced until after the Pension has been sorted out . Aircraft being the above hotly rumoured as well as this . BA have been offered a good deal for the 737 Next Generation at a cost of 1 million per hull to replace the 737's @ LGW , So watch this space !!! Or could it be 787?

[apaddyinuk]

See the thread on BA strike...
Some say this same rumour comes from some 'tiddly' Boeing salesmen travelling back to SEA in 1st with BA... couldn't help boasting about the deal...
now if BA say they can't afford the pensions deficit we won't believe them... :suspect:

And we all know anyway that they CAN afford the pensions deficit!!!

[Re-Heat]

Airplane Families 2005 $ in Millions
737 Family
737-600 45.5 -- 53.5
737-700 52.0 -- 61.0
737-800 63.5 -- 72.0
737-900 66.5 -- 77.0

Do you really think the discounts are so good as to make them $1m a hull?

[tristar500]

Oshkosh George

Get real. This is a forum concerning aviation rumour and news. Its also a place for aviation related people to have a say in issues concerning the industry in a lighthearted way... Dont need editorial advice from you. Take it easy and dont let it get to you:ok:

[DarkStar]

This is interesting because I was chatting to an EK Captain who told me downroute that BA had put in a big order for 773's and it was done on the basis of Boeing keeping quiet because of the pension issue. I laughed it off at the time as he mentioned the pension debacle, but perhaps the joke was on me after all. :*

Pension first, 773's later:mad:

[HZMIS]

Darkstar; I am amazed that as a senior FC member you get sucked into these rumours which have little or no foundation. It is as well that you are not still part of the SS management where 3 of the existing 7 have to go by the end of March. BA would be hard pressed to purchase a new fleet of EMB's let alone 77's.

[DarkStar]

HZMIS - you highlight the usual problem that BA senior Mgmt have no understanding of our lifestyle and the difficulty of communication. I believe that an order is in the offing and that the EK Capt was actually working with Boeing's until two weeks ago and therefore is probably better informed than most.

The pension issue IS a big factor for any big capital outlay these days. :mad:

Emb's eh? A new shorthaul order on the horizon on that basis then? :hmm: