Owen buys AS365, starts PPH training

[andyhelo]

I heard something about Michael Owen wanting to stay at his home but fly up to newcastle for training, matches etc, anyone heard of this and can elaborate?

[SilsoeSid]

Don't know the rumour, but from the Telegraph;

Over the next few months, as he always does, Owen will make the best of things. The consummate professional, he will train hard, find temporary accommodation nearby, so as not to exhaust himself in the commute, and will doubtless score goals.
Source (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/08/31/nowen31.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/08/31/ixhome.html)

With the commuting plan, as football is a 'bad weather sport' seasonally, and as this is in the Rotorheads forum, I would think the alternate plan, according to my version of AutoRoute, would involve a commute from Concha Espina 1, 28036 Madrid to NE1 4ST of 1346.6 miles which would take 2 days 4 hours and 54 minutes-ish.

He may well be better than Beckham in George Bests eyes, but somehow I can't see any club putting up with that kind of plan!

But with their kind of money......why not Eh?

;)
SS

p.s. Perhaps not a Rotorhead topic!

[andyhelo]

You do realise that Owen has moved to Newcastle Untited Football Club, dont you? My question would then be directed to flying from his house-in GREAT BRITAIN, to his NEW club in newcastle.

[helicopter-redeye]

could train him so he could fly himself like the footballer in todays pilot

[Double Echo]

He has moved into one of the properties on an estate nearby owned by Sir John Hall. Source: My Dad's best mate, who is his next door neighbour!!!!;)

[helicopter-redeye]

actually in the same article, this guy was riding a motorbike as well

but I'm sure he'd rather have a helichauffer

[Minty Fresh]

I Spoke to the guy who flew him into Ascot (at York) in June

He was already interested in heli's and which he should buy.

There may be a very nice job for one of your pro's (or a ppl employed as his bag carrier - but thats another thread altogether!!! - No bites please!!)

[FloaterNorthWest]

The charter is already booked.

Apparently he will fly up twice a week and stay in accomodation paid for by the club, they are also paying for the helicopter.

What will he do with all his own money?

FNW

[Sailor Vee]

What will he do with all his own money?

Well, if I had his wages, 90% would go on women and drink, I'd prolly squander the rest!!:E

[Billywizz]

10% to sqaunder on gambling does not seem very much!

[SilsoeSid]

You do realise that Owen has moved to Newcastle Untited Football Club, dont you? My question would then be directed to flying from his house-in GREAT BRITAIN, to his NEW club in newcastle.
I did, but I didn't realise that he kept the gaff in Wales.

Apparently Shearer will be putting him up for the time being and he is now house hunting in Newcastle.

Source (http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2005410035,00.html)

By the way, "In the meantime, he has decided against commuting by helicopter."

SS

[andyhelo]

Thank you for that information SilsoeSid.

[John Eacott]

Obviously well know to the Poms here, but for those of us (USA included ;) ) who haven't the faintest......

Who is Owen?

[EESDL]

A bit like saying 'Babe Ruth?'

Seriously though, he's a small, hometown scouser (Liverpool), who is phenomenal in the skills of playing soccer - the only player who literally ran circles around the Argentinians and Brazilians.
You have heard of the Argentinians, I think the Yanks stopped buying spam from them as a nation back in the early '80s:-)

[John Eacott]

Oh, well: if we're talking sportsmen, the 5th Ashes have just started.

All over a pair of bails my mate's great great grandmother burnt as a joke ;)

[Ian Corrigible]

...according to the Telegraph (http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/01/01/nowen01.xml). 'Course, having just broken his foot he'll have to wait a while before he can use the pedals. Either that, or he'll be doing left turns over the field all day... :E

Anyone ever trained from scratch on a Dauphin ?


I/C

[widgeon]

I went to college near Northrop hall , seem to recall lotsa tall trees in the area .
What is rep power ?

[paddyboy]

He hopes to obtain his own licence within the next two years. But before that, he will have to accrue more than 35 hours of flying time.

Once he has his basic licence he will have to sit more exams and tests before he is allowed to fly his more advanced twin-engine Eurocopter.:hmm:

Given the tough exams and hours of study required to pass the flying tests, however, it is unlikely that Owen and Ferdinand will start a trend among millionaire footballers.:rolleyes:

Apologies for the sarcasm...:E

Let the debate ensue.

[swordfling]

According to the Times (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,17409-1966794,00.html)... "I read somewhere yesterday that I am meant to be taking helicopter lessons, which is news to me."

[SASless]

Hang on....in the UK...he cannot learn to fly in the Dauphin can he? The Aviation Mafia requires one to learn on single engine helicopters then later progress to twins....or am I mistaken here?

In fact....don't they get a bit huffy over someone wanting to buy an MOD surplus Gazelle and start his learning process in that machine?

Now the question of the week for the Licensing types here....TRE's included...CFI's as well.....If I have the money to buy a Bristow surplus Tiger ....why should I not be able to have someone teach me to fly from scratch with my personal machine?

[Anne Tenner]

So Tudor has broken his foot and bought an AS365. Sounds like an interesting start to 2006!

[headsethair]

The Owen story was in his Times column in November - where he announced his purchase. Then he got injured at the weekend - new year's holiday - slow news - journalist wanting to file copy and push off. So the Telegraph piece was complete speculation about him taking lessons - however it gets read by all other media. They are similarly lazy/bored/want to get to pub/home - so they repeat it.

Way of the world.

Of course they would be better off investigating why 6 top players (incl Rooney, Neville, Beckham) have had the same injury in less than 3 years - why boots don't offer protection to the top of the foot - and why "blade studs" arrival has triggered these injuries.

But that would be asking a journalist to do some research.....and we all wonder why they get aviation stories screwed up.;)

[happyhamster]

SASless

LASORS states that after 70 hours of twin time PIC, a PPL flight test can be taken on a twin. Someone please shoot me if I have interpretted this wrongly.

HH


( section C2.4 - page 10 of section C )

[Pat Malone]

Important not to be too sniffy when there's a chance of some positive publicity about helicopters in the mass media.
Mike Smith of Flying TV was on BBC Radio talking about this last night and came across very well – as he should, after all the practice he's had.
The fact that Michael Owen has no intention of learning to fly the thing can be glossed over for the purpose in hand.

[Banjo]

To take a multi engine helicopter (PPL or commercial) rating you must have

A) Passed the theoretical knowledge examinations in accordance with JAR2.470 for the CPL (H), or, hold a certificate of satisfactory completion of a pre entry approved course in accordance with appendix 1 to Jar-FCL 2.255

B) Have completed at lease 70 hours as pilot in command of helicopters in accordance with appendices 1 & 3 of 2.240


In other words complete your ppl then do 70 hours of P1 flying (would have to be on a single as you are not yet twin rated)get head in exam books and then you will be able to start on the type rating course. Oh and have a big bank balance because the insurance premiums will be high indeed.

[Spunk]

In good old Germany you are only allowed to do primary training in an aircraft which is certified for 4 seats or less. Leaves it more or less to the old but proven pistons.:confused:

[STANDTO]

2 million?

How old will that be then? Seems a steal for a 365.

I am glad that you can take your PPL(H) in a twin, as that is the plan when the 6 numbers come up. Bit more modest though, a 355 will do fine

[Flying Pencil]

FCL-2 states max 4 persons a/c for PPL (H) training. Anyone know of people training on a jetranger..? Perhaps I missed the exemption annexe.

FP.

[Flingingwings]

FP,
Isn't a new stude of yours looking to learn from scratch on a 206????

Or has that all changed???

:E
FW

[ThomasTheTankEngine]

Intruction For Initial Ppl(h) Can Only Be Undertaken On Types With A Maximum Seating Configuration Of Four Or Less Be It Turbine Or Piston Powered

This is not quite correct JAR FCL 2 states "A Registered Facility can only give training for the issue of a PPL(H) on a helicopter with a maximum of 4 seats"

SO an FTO approved to give PPL(H) training as one of it's course's can give PPL(H) training for the issue of the PPL(H) on a helicopter with more than 4 seats.

[cyclic flare]

Jorden (aka Katie Price) is apparently taking heli lessons, now i'd rather teach her than a scouser than cant kick a ball straight

[ppheli]

Cyclic Flare - just wondering whether Jordan's training started with "weight and balance calculations" ?? D'you reckon she'd understand that?

Flying Pencil - there was certainly someone some years back (rules prob changed since) at Fairoaks who learned on the family B206 and then later did a piston conversion (yes, from a turbine to a piston...) so she could also fly the family R22 gismo. Yes, they had both at that time..

[MightyGem]

I believe that there was a quote from him in one of the Sunday papers along the lines of: "I believe I'm supposed to be learning to fly a helicopter. That's news to me"

[handysnaks]

How come you never see swordfling and mightygem in the same room at the same time?:hmm: :rolleyes:

[MightyGem]

How come you never see swordfling and mightygem in the same room at the same time
Not quite sure what your getting at there, handy.

[YYZ]

The beast itself, allegedly?

http://tinypic.com/k15agz.jpg

YYZ

[AlanM]

That has to be one of the worst colour schemes I have seen on a 365 (whether it is Owen's or not!)

Yukkkkk :=

[YYZ]

That's the colour he purchased it in, he may well change it, the interior is very nice though, like new.

[handysnaks]

Not quite sure what your getting at there, handy.
OK D, I mean MG
2nd January 2006, 15:19 Posted by
swordfling
According to the Times... "I read somewhere yesterday that I am meant to be taking helicopter lessons, which is news to me."
Now, I hate to get all TC;) on you but
Yesterday, 11:22 Posted by
MightyGem
I believe that there was a quote from him in one of the Sunday papers along the lines of: "I believe I'm supposed to be learning to fly a helicopter. That's news to me"
If you have to explain......:rolleyes: :p

[Sioux4D]

That is most definitely a Mars Bar livery, and judging by the registration......melty!

[tomotomp]

G-MLTY used to belong to Multyflight in Leeds

[Brilliant Stuff]

the tail looks awfully low to me. is this normal?


Yes that is normal.

[callie dog]

Its parked at Newcastle airport now - funny its not been here as much recently!

[headsethair]

And here's (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/4609230.stm) why the Owens need it !

[Brilliant Stuff]

with all that money they must be able to afford a chauffeur.

[STANDTO]

zxcvbn

They look like a bag of nails on the ground, but in the air they look and sound like nothing else.

I remember watching the Bond ones coming in from the Morecambe Bay rigs into EGNH in the 80's. like something out of Star Wars!:ok:

[Brilliant Stuff]

They still do though it says CHC on the doors now.
They look awesome in Flight and sound the dog's!:ok:

[Ian Corrigible]

And you thought your flight insurance was high...

Owen grounded
Sunday Mirror 8/27 (http://www.sundaymirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=17635406&method=full&siteid=62484&headline=owen-grounded--name_page.html)

Michael Owen has been banned from flying his £2 million helicopter.

Newcastle United bosses have told the England ace he can't take the controls - because they are not prepared to pay vastly increased insurance premiums to cover his loss to the team if he crashes.

Owen spent thousands on flying lessons after buying the eight-seater, twin-engine Eurocopter Dauphin in October.

A source close to the player, 26, said last night: "Michael is really annoyed and frustrated. He has spent all that money on a helicopter and lessons - and now he has found out he can't fly because of the huge insurance fees.

"He enjoys flying just for the sake of it, but being a pilot would also have cut his travelling time, meaning he could see more of his wife and family. Now that hope is pretty much in tatters."

Owen - who suffered a potentially career-ending injury during the World Cup - initially planned to hire a pilot to fly him on the 190-mile trip to Newcastle from his home at Northop, North Wales. Then he decided getting his own licence would give him more freedom. He also hoped to build a £20,000 helipad in his three-acre garden.

I/C

[TiPwEiGhT]

I'll fly it for him if he gets stuck...

TiP:ok:

[Flying Lawyer]

Owen ......... initially planned to hire a pilot Not only planned, but did.

Mark Griffiths from Multiflight has been operating the Dauphin for Owen since he bought it from them.

FL

[sandy helmet]

Is that the same Mark that cut his flying teeth in Barbados years ago?

[Flying Lawyer]

Yes, the same one.

[Flying Lawyer]

I mentioned the Sunday Mirror story while speaking to Mark Griffiths last week.

It's complete rubbish.

.......... banned from flying his £2 million helicopter ..... told he can't take the controls for insurance reasons ..... spent thousands on flying lessons


Michael Owen has not been told anything of the sort, has never had a lesson, and has no interest in learning to fly.

[rotorvision98]

Hi Guys Owens Dauphine has been into Swansea recently. Apparrently he had to buy twin as not insured to fly in single. Since he has owned it it is doing 1000+ charter hours a year. Its a stunning machine. biggest problem they have is getting suitably qualified people to fly it

[FloaterNorthWest]

Probably because they don't reply to the ones that apply!

FNW

[Heliport]

Since he has owned it it is doing 1000+ charter hours a year. Its a stunning machine. biggest problem they have is getting suitably qualified people to fly it The first part is correct.
Word in the bazaars is they've just taken on two more pilots.

H.