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ALLDAYDELI
20th Nov 2005, 20:14
BA B752 Shuttle 8V just inbound into Heathrow as a full emergency. Oily smoke reported in cockpit and cabin, crew donned oxy masks. Full emergency situation seemed to be in action at LHR just now but all calmly under control.
Aircraft touched down safely and aircraft seemed to go straight to stand.

shuttlebus
20th Nov 2005, 23:30
I'll be careful with my reply as someone is bound to take offence!

I seem to remember that there is one particular BA 757 that has a rather bad habit of performing this trick (it could be more than one...)

A search through the threads and the AAIB website will no doubt throw up further examples of this occurence.

Regards,

Shuttlebus

P.S. If I had been down the back I woudl have been glad it was a full emergency too. Just good SOPs by the airline and crew :-)

behind_the_second_midland
21st Nov 2005, 08:17
Well which was it, the BA752(BSL) or SHT8V (GLA or EDI)?

EGAC_Ramper
21st Nov 2005, 08:20
I do believe the orignal poster in was meaning it to be a Boeing 757-200 with the phrase B752 and its callsign was SHT8V.


Regards:ok:

ALLDAYDELI
21st Nov 2005, 08:21
ok, I will simplify, a British Airways Boeing 757-200 Shuttle 8V

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
21st Nov 2005, 08:44
<<Just good SOPs by the airline and crew >>

And by ATC and the Safety Services too, no doubt.

behind_the_second_midland
21st Nov 2005, 20:58
Well that explains it then

eng123
22nd Nov 2005, 11:17
Crikey!

This thread has been on here for 2 days now and only 6 replies.
Imagine if this had been a RYR 737-800 into EGSS. How much hysteria would have been caused then?

Calm down, only a thought!

wombat13
22nd Nov 2005, 14:38
I won't pretend to be something I am not, so here goes, I am a lowly ppl with even lower hours. Now my question:

Can someone please explain to me what the difference is between a "full emergency" as in this case and a plain old simple emergency?

The Wombat

Waldo
22nd Nov 2005, 14:50
Well in rough terms a small emergency will result in just the local fire/ambulance units being put on standby. A full emergency results in most of the counties emergency services and hospitals being put on standby just in case!!

HEATHROW DIRECTOR
22nd Nov 2005, 14:52
Probably derived from the categories of emergency laid down at a particular airport. At larger UK airports they are (if my rusty brain recalls):
Local Standby, Full Emergency, Aircraft Ground Incident, Aircraft Accident Imminent, Aircraft Accident.

"Full Emergency" is the category used when an aircraft has, for example, hydraulic or electrical problems, loss of 50% power or other problem which ATC decides warrants an FE. For a Local Standby just the airfield AFS is involved. For an FE the outside services are involved too.

apaddyinuk
22nd Nov 2005, 15:37
Well funny that, just over 2 years ago I was a pax sitting at the Very rear of a BA757 (Reg ended in ER, Wonder if its the same plane) from LHR to CDG. A few moments after take off a strong smell of burning was noticed throughout the cabin. Within a few minutes the captain came over the PA and said we would be returning to LHR cos of a tech glitch. Almost immediately after that he came over again and said he was taking precautionary measures to land in LGW as it was easier to make an immediate landing. Pilots were on O2 and we made a full emergency landing!!! Sounds like the same thing has happened again. The reason given for my incident was that the a/c was just out of heavy maintenance and there must have been dust burning...."DUST anyone??? DUST DUST I JUST LOVE A BIT OF DUST"!!!!!!!

BLK 33
22nd Nov 2005, 17:10
(Reg ended in ER, Wonder if its the same plane)


Nope, this one was "EK".:8

Austrian Simon
22nd Nov 2005, 17:21
apaddyinuk,

you might be interested in the following report of several incidents in 2003 and 2004 of both G-CPEK and G-CPER regarding fumes and smell from the air conditioning ...

http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/cms_resources/G-BPEE_07-05.pdf

Simon

apaddyinuk
22nd Nov 2005, 18:14
Simon,

Thanks a million for that, very interesting read and yes that was the flight I was on as it was the same date. So it was not the dust after all! LOL!!!
I am crew and although I am now with BA i was not at the time but with another airline and I tell you one thing, it still gave me the jitters as it was happening! LOL!

woodpecker
23rd Nov 2005, 19:46
Have used the pax oxygen twice on 757's (emergency descents) and both times there were comments from pax and c/c about burning smells in the cabin.

The oxygen generators for the pax supply produce the oxygen chemically and there is a lot of heat produced. The engineers suggested that with the generators covered in dust (like most things in any aircraft) the smell was from this covering on a very hot generator surface.

clicker
24th Nov 2005, 05:37
At Gatwick on all emergencies the Police get inv'd as well although only on a full emergency do they get Officers from outside of the airport interested when they put units at various points locally so that the roads can be shut down to aviod the problem that the Staines Trident crash had, rubberneckers.

How do I know this, well I now work in one of Susses Police's control rooms.