Swanwick emergency training needs your help.

[turn right 5 degrees]

To all commercial pilots who use London Airspace.

It is that time of year when Swanwick controllers undergo their annual training in handling emergencies and unusual circumstances.

What we need is for aircrew to come along and join these sessions and observe 'your' problems from the ATC side and to join in the discussions and de-briefs to widen our understanding of aircraft emergencies.

The sessions run from November until March and are either afternoon or morning, we will also include a visit to the ops room and probably a chance to sit in on a live sector.

If you are interested please e-mail your brief details to :-

[email protected]

and we will send you available dates. A free lunch and a mileage allowance is available to those who attend.

tr5d

ps Mr Moderator, any chance of making this post sticky for a while. Thanks in advance.

[Few Cloudy]

Always a pleasure to visit ATC - and, in the days it was allowed, to take ATC members in the cockpit.

It just needs a bit of effort and time but is of great benefit.

Maybe you could look at an ATC order versus RA situation in real time...

It is the hardest thing in the world for a pilot to go contra to an ATC order but that is just what he must do if TCAS gives an opposite RA.

[Engine overtemp]

and, in the days it was allowed, to take ATC members in the cockpit

Still is isn't it?

[Marty-Party]

Is this the same as the TRUCE days run at West Drayton?

[5milesbaby]

Basically yes, but its at Swanwick using their bit of kit and methods of operation. From a pilots perspective there will not be much different.

[Ignition Override]

Engine overtemp: Our US bureaucrats have still not figured out how or whether to let ATC personnel back into the c0ckpits, but this should not surprise anyone.

To control multiple aircraft on multiple frequencies (while we hear just one), yet not allow them to ride on just one jumpseat is not rocket science, or even RR Dart engine science.

It is good to see that some nations have not sunken to this low level of inter-departmental (stubbornness), chaos and stupidity := . This is one reason why 9/11 was made easier for the mass-murderers.