View Full Version : Accident of CAP232 St Yan France 30.08.2005
Morane
28th Oct 2005, 07:09
Hi,
Apex Aircraft has published some factual information about
the fatal lost wing accident a few weeks ago
http://www.apex-aircraft.com/fic-communiques/1130251942-CommuniqueGB.pdf
for those interested.
Joe
Sir George Cayley
28th Oct 2005, 19:27
I understand DGAC have grounded CAP 232s pending the BEA report.
Sir George Cayley
Morane
30th Oct 2005, 19:52
Yes,
thats correct.
The whole familie is grounded, not only the carbon-wing 232,
the wodden-wing 231 also, because they have the same
fuselage, and there seems to be the problem.
Nevertheless the 231 had no problems in the past,
maybe becourse the wodden wing is not so stiff
and produces less stress for the fuselage.
Joe
Say again s l o w l y
30th Oct 2005, 23:00
Didn't the CAP 10 have similar problems a few years ago? I seem to remember one losing a wing in France.
Doesn't exactly fill you with confidence. The only thing that worries me in flying is structural failure without a bang seat.
Morane
31st Oct 2005, 19:34
Yes,
the CAP10B had problems with the (wodden) wing spar at the
point were the main landing gear is attached. Hard landings
could damage the spar. The production of the CAP10B
was stopped.
The new model CAP10C has a fibre-reinforced wing (glas or
carbon, I donīt know exactly).
With the CAP10B there was more than one lost-wing accident.
We also had one here in Germany a few years ago, were
a well known (in germany) aerobatic instructor an his student were killed.
Joe
TheOddOne
31st Oct 2005, 21:00
Quite a few people have and will get the 'B' wing on the CAP 10 retrofitted with the 'C' wing. This is quite economical and should extend the life of this wonderful aircraft - a delight to fly and fully capable of competition aerobatics up to Intermediate level.
The Tiger Club in the UK is just one example of an operator with the new wing.
We're all hoping that the tragic accident this summer is a 'one-off' and the CAP 232 can get airborne again. It really is the only current antidote to the Russian SU26/31 in Europe. The Edge 540 from the States is an interesting contender but there's not much else, really.
Some people have suggested buying up CAP 232 at knock-down prices for the wings and building a new tubular steel fuselage - will probably add 60-70 kg to the weight and ruin the a/c anyway, so there's no point, really.
Cheers,
The Odd One
Lowtimer
31st Oct 2005, 21:17
The Odd One,
If you retrofit a -10B with a -10C wing, do you get the useful load increase that (if I recall correctly) is a feature of the -10C?
Volume
1st Nov 2005, 05:21
Here you can find the German BFU-Report (http://www.bfu-web.de/berichte/01_3x160dub.pdf) Morane refers to. As it has some pictures and diagrams, it is partly understandable by non-germans ;)
greeners
1st Nov 2005, 10:48
We're all hoping that the tragic accident this summer is a 'one-off' and the CAP 232 can get airborne again. It really is the only current antidote to the Russian SU26/31 in Europe. The Edge 540 from the States is an interesting contender but there's not much else, really.
Extra 300 not count at all?