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yogibear
14th Sep 2005, 18:37
Rumour has it that 1-Time is on a 'CASH ONLY' basis with the aircraft fuel suppliers at JIA. Also has anyone noticed that thier aircraft seem to be standing a lot more often than they should be and thier pax getting passed onto other airlines ?

Is this the beginning of the end for 1-Time or is it just me ?

:confused:

Cris L
14th Sep 2005, 21:15
Thank goodness I didn't book a friends ticket on them - I was very tempted, cos they wuz the cheapest!

south coast
14th Sep 2005, 22:42
they are probably strapped for cash because of the amount they are paying the dr. doveton-morgan each month!

ANVAK
15th Sep 2005, 05:01
I've heard that they are using Safair 737's now and parking the DC-9's. Perhaps the price of fuel? Or reliability issues?
Hope for the sake of some good crews working for 1-Time that they can pull it through.

barryt
15th Sep 2005, 08:39
The comments on this thread are HIGHLY irresponsible. This is a rumour network, I appreciate, but this is the stuff which cripples airlines.

For your information, I have just confirmed with 1Time's offices that they are STILL flying (DC-9s too!) as we speak. And yes, it appears they are getting new aircraft as well - 737s apparently...

WHAT parked DC-9s????!!!!

Cessnafan
15th Sep 2005, 09:01
Heard from a friend who flies for them that he's sitting on the ground alot lately and rather concerned.

barryt
15th Sep 2005, 09:23
Well, I am VERY concerned about this lot since I have no less than 12 (TWELVE) return tickets booked and a pre-booked and paid for holiday with them for myself and family for a holiday next week Friday between Cape Town and East London.

I have requested comments from Simone at their public relations department and reported this thread to them.

FUG
15th Sep 2005, 10:07
Rumour has it wrong yogi. No problems with 1time or its cash.

In fact, things have never been better. Take delivery of the next aircraft - MD83 - in the next 2 weeks, it is currently being prepared at Safair. DC9 is being returned.

Will carry the millionth passenger in the very near future. Load factors look good. Also some new routes this year.

Skyhooker
15th Sep 2005, 10:11
This is extremely irresponsible.
The DC 9 parked at JNB is there for a reason- its been given back to the owners.
The MD 80 was parked in CTN because it was awaiting a loaner engine after FOD ingestion.
They are using 737's from Safair for very good financial reasons and are about to implement their third MD80.
The DC 9's will slowly go but 1Time is only going forward.

Why is so much criticism being weilded against such a great airline?????? I believe their fuel arrangements have always been the same-cash on a weekly basis in any case.

Lets rather concern ourselves with the bottomless pit that the taxpayers continue to fill in the governments support for an airline that doesnt need to make money...............

barryt
15th Sep 2005, 10:21
Totally agree with FUG and Skyhooker. I now have it on good authority that 1time is actually in very good shape, and this is JUST a rumour (malicious though it seems).

One of their DC-9s is in for routine maintenance, and naturally, they are leasing a Safair aircraft in it's place meanwhile - what's wrong with THAT?

And their fleet IS expanding - they are taking delivery of another MD 83 within the next few weeks (currently being prepared by Safair).

Yogi, where did you get your info from? You are talking k_k boet!
And I am very suspicious that you are probably an agent for SA_ or Kul__a, and if you ARE, then you are a DISGRACE!

Cessnafan : Tell your mate to duck and/or otherwise keep a low profile....

Go 1time go!

ASD
15th Sep 2005, 12:01
Airlines buying their own aircraft rather than leasing cant be in to bad a shape.

I think all the low cost airlines are making very good profits! :ok:

yogibear
15th Sep 2005, 15:05
Hey !!!!!

Keep your frikken pants on guys......I was merely asking a question on this site...after all it is a Rumour network is it not????

This information was passed onto me and I wanted to find out if anyone knew what was going on........sheesh talking about sensitive souls out there :mad:

barryt.....I dont know you and you dont know me so dont go calling people things ok ???:*

I was merely trying to find out sheesh !!!!!

PS: I am not an 'AGENT' for SA_ or KU_a as 'blarryt' so nicely puts it........they could not pay me enough to do that :yuk:


Chill out guys......there is enuff going on these days without trying crap on every person who asks a simple question....

Plane Pain
15th Sep 2005, 15:27
I have flown with 1time on several occassions and am very impressed with their service, price and state of aircraft.

Did anyone hear about k-l-l-'s turnback on Tuesday evening at Jhb International Airport? Apparently emergency services had to escort them back in.... wonder what happened there??

I've had the same experience with them before and a scary exercise I can tell you...

Skyhooker
15th Sep 2005, 16:25
Hey Yogibear!!!! Is that you Jorg??

I think so. Sour grapes maybe that you didnt get the nod to be accepted by 1Time???

No reason to be malicious and spread totally inaccurate rumours about a sound airline.


Get a life.........or a job!!!!!:) :ok:

stop&go
15th Sep 2005, 19:12
Well we paid cach for our planes, might as well pay cach for fuel....

four engine jock
15th Sep 2005, 19:18
hey guys
1 time is a very good airline , and doing very well.
i think it will out last all of them.
in ref to cash for fuel , alot of airlines pay cash for fuel on weekly basis.

go 1 time

barryt
16th Sep 2005, 05:57
I'm sorry 4HolerPoler, and I respect the forum's rules, however in this case, I have to disagree with you I am afraid. I feel that in some cases a "rumour" can go too far, with a potential very negative effect, as was the case here. I am sure you will agree with me that often the "hard media" picks up things from these "rumour" forums and takes them as hard gospel fact, and reports as such (irresponsible as it may be).

I feel that you as moderator should have toned this lot down long before I started posting, and should have realised yourself that this is potentially a dangerous situation, with people's actual livelihoods at stake. It would be the responsible thing to do.

It's no good hiding behind the fact that it's a "rumour" forum, and anything goes. It doesn't in some cases I feel, and I am disappointed at your approach and attitude here - you are, in effect, condoning the situation where an airline could potentially be put in jeopardy, so I most certainly whole heartedly disagree with you on this one. One needs to make a stand for integrity sometimes, even if it means "breaking the rules" of the forum on the odd occasion.

Of course, you are the moderator, so you can just delete this response, I know, but if you don't, then I will believe you have integrity and are not one of those editors who believes in "freedom of the press stops right here on my desk"...:)

You've had your warning barryt - you are a guest on this site - please feel free to post your opinions but do not advise others as how to post - by all means disagree with other's stances but respect the freedom of other's speech & avoid demanding retractions & apologies based on your knee-jerk reaction, driven partly by the fact that you have a few tickets on the subject airline. And by all means report the content of posts to Mbeki himself - it will have no effect on the ability of members to continue to post their rumors. 4HP

yogibear
16th Sep 2005, 09:16
Skyhooker !!!!

Wrong guy altogether bud......so maybe you get a life huh ?????

:* ...guys c\'mon huh......I did not create or start the rumour.....it was already out there and now you guys are getting all sanctimonious and taking things personally..........do you guys do this with all the other rumours that abound in all the other forums.

If you read my original post it started with \'Romour has it\'.......but hey I guess not every-one reads things properly do they????

And now you guys are all crapping all over me???...well crap away guys....if it makes your little narrow minds feel better !!!!!!



PS: If my spelling is not correct.....sorry for you !!!:mad:

PPS: Hot gossip from JIA domestic departures.......that SAFAIR has taken over 1-Time.....guys this is a rumour that has come my way so before you all get on your little soap boxes and crap all over me..........I would like to know if this IS just a rumour like the last one or is this possibly true ?????

barryt
16th Sep 2005, 10:10
yogibear, have you actually READ the previous posts mate?

To answer your question, a big NO, NADA, NYET. 1time is most definately not being taken over by Safair!

This IS a rumour yogi, and before some naive newspaper reporter or some such picks up on your little "bouncing ball" here and writes a story about it to potentially cause havoc for 1time (airlines trade on CONFIDENCE levels mate - think about that!), best you put this one to bed now....let your mates know out there who have started this rumour that they are badly misinformed, and are potentially causing a lot of totally unnecesary harm! Tell them to have a little integrity and establish the facts first before spreading potentially malicious rumours.

Repeat of previous posts for your convenience :

Safair (to my knowledge) is merely LEASING one of their aircraft (a 737 I think) to 1time WHILST they SERVICE one of 1time's MD's for it's routine maintenance and checks etc.

That's ALL there is to the "Safair" link/story/rumor or whatever you choose to call it, OK?...:)

Let it be known....there is a strong case for yogi being employed by Nationwide.....now it all makes sense......:) These rumour forums are fun....weeeeeee......

T Hairy Henry
16th Sep 2005, 14:01
I don't want to get involved in the whole they are or aren't rubbish.........

.........but I can't help thinking that if this topic had the name CIVAIR instead of 1Time, you guys would be agreeing with him. Not moaning because jobs were at stake.

It's because the public didn't know the rumours about CIVAIR that they lost out.

People should be able to hear the rumours, then they can make up their own minds! You can't be selective about these things. It then gives other people, like you guys, the chance counter them.

The guy heard a rumour and passed it on. He didn't go for lunch with Bobby M!!!

yogibear
16th Sep 2005, 14:06
T.H.H......thnx mate....I was basically trying to say the same but as you all know ....Yogi Bear is not your average bear....:=


And to the rest of you guys.....SORRY dont work for CE or ANY other airline for that matter.....just know a lot of folks who know a lot of folks who know a lot of folks......:}

Solid Rust Twotter
16th Sep 2005, 14:36
Sounds like a load of old dingo kidneys to me. No crew are leaving 1Time, hence the lack of vacancies/interviews. They employ when new aircraft are added to the fleet. This can only mean the guys are happy where they are and have faith in the company.

Personally, I believe guys are boxing in the car park to get into 1Time, myself among them....:ok:

Goffel
16th Sep 2005, 14:37
:mad: Broer.

It seems that some oke's have their tits in a tangle over one airline,but in the very next subject,(Nationwide strike),are very quick to keep quiet.

Barry T,all Yogi did was voice what he had heard.

I for one am greatful as I pax frequently on 1 Time and yes,I also buy my tickets in advance.
So if there is **** on the horizon,I for one woul like to know.

The same dangers can be said about the subject,"Nationwide strike".
Just now some one says,Oooooh,strike,lets rather buy from Civair,as their pilots are not going on strike.

People are very quick to slander SAA,but no up-roar is heard.
What about the Huey saga.(and Bert please dont come back with one better).

As far as SAFAIR buying into 1 time....check the finacial paper!!!!.

Go for it Yogi. (By the way,Yogi happens to be the training captain on an A/C you would all like to pole).

Goffel still sitting by the sea smokkling kreef.:E

jetjoke
16th Sep 2005, 15:10
Hey, 1timers! relax and bat the rumours from where they come. It is a rumour network and my carrier gets shredded to pieces very often..............they actually deserve it but none the less, it is a rumour network and us aviation types are good at 2 things-flying aircraft and spreading rumours.

Have a pleasant weekend

yogibear
16th Sep 2005, 15:41
:ok: ..cheers Goffel and jetjoke........exactly what I have been trying to say all along.......:E

Miragepilote
16th Sep 2005, 17:21
Yogurt bear,

Back to hibernation now...

1Time will be around for a while....

hehehehe:p

fluffyfan
16th Sep 2005, 19:52
Ha......I love it, the low cost airlines fighting with eachother, wonderful stuff keep it up.

Just one quick word, all the comments of "oh my gosh how irresponsible" try a search of SAA and take a look at some of the irresponsible comments made there, so please dont get so sensitive when someone says something about 1time or Kulula...........it happens a lot.

yogibear, you could not pay me enough to sit infront of a computer all day..........some of us are paid to do the job we love dont need to fly a R22 around on weekends to forget the IT job

Miragepilote
16th Sep 2005, 21:15
Fluffy, sounds gay, but it doesn’t sound like you can blow anything anyway, hence the name fluffyfan???:hmm:

Flying for SAA doesn't put you at the top of the pyramid, although in your small world you might think so....

What to do when you lose your medical due to your soft nature…

Back to your electric socket…and think about your future.

IT is a good alternative. He can most probably choose when he wants to fly, and at the end of the day probably pays half your salary.

So don't step on the toes that carry the arse you might have to kiss one day. The taxpayers might get tired of you...

I’m off to Oprah… and yes, 1time will be around for a while longer...

hehehehe:p

yogibear
17th Sep 2005, 05:40
:cool: Fluffy I also love my job in I.T........The only difference between you and I is.....you fly an aircraft belonging to someone else and I fly my own !!!!!......Does make the whole event of getting up in the morning and going flying a bit sweeter dont you think and besides.......can the aircraft you fly hover ?????

Cheers Mirage....:ok: ....off to my cave (luxuriously fitted by the way) for a little sleep....:p

4HolerPoler
17th Sep 2005, 14:29
Back to the topic please folks.

4HP

point8four
19th Sep 2005, 18:48
Gents (and ladies)

There have been so many posts aimed at either "dis"information(ref LCC's) or, as is the purpose of the site, rumour verification and origination that I feel compelled to add my 13.475 cents worth. 1 Time is in great shape and going from strength to strength. "Cash only" basis with vendors would best describe the way they pay service providers at month end(several large bags filled with green). There are some sharp chaps at the helm and I think the phrase watch this space springs to mind.

George Tower
19th Sep 2005, 23:10
Any one know 1-Time's plans for expansion, new routes, new equipment?

Just out of interest would anyone care to comment on the fact that SA LCCs are using old aircraft as opposed to carriers in europe (easyjet/ryanair) that use new kit.

I'm just speculating but surely with the strong rand/weak dollar, and the high price of oil, wouldn't now be the time to get some shiny new aeries in the fleet.

Your thoughts gentlemen (and ladies as well of course)......

Deskjocky
20th Sep 2005, 09:48
The reason the overseas LLC's use new/er equipment is partly due to the far stricter emissions/ noise regulations in Europe as well as their ability to buy large numbers of new aircraft (when they buy)- thus getting the price down. Getting your fares in the same currency as the one your leases are paid in also helps.

Why dont the local LLC's fly new metal? its still cheaper to fly older aircraft- lets be honest the MD82/B737-400 are still good performers on the balance sheet- especially if you have paid them off! Yes, a B737-800 will deliver lower seat mile costs (assisted by the fact that they also have more capacity) operationally, but you are going to have a heafty lease every month to pay- linked to the USD. This somewhat nullifies your savings operationally- fuel. Some may argue that the additional maintinace costs will become an issue in the longer term- D checks etc but the reality is that SA is still a cheaper place to conduct this type of work than say Europe.(The DC9's may not fall into this catagory and Im sure they will be sent up into Africa on contracts in due course- perhaps opening up a new source of revenue?)

The last reason why they dont need to fly shiney new Boeings/Airbuses is that the punters dont really care what kind of aircraft they fly in- for them its all about the price. Yes aircraft must look in good shape (1Time put leather seats into 35 year old DC9's) coupled to a slick paint job and the customer thinks the plane is quite nice. The fact that the SAA A319 parked in the bay next door is the last word in aviation technology means very little to the customer- fact is the punters would probably like it more if it had purple stiripes down the side!

Why is this so? market reaserch done in SA revelaled that safety comes in at no4 on the average customers list of priorities when choosing an airline. I guess the reason for this is that SA has a good track record in terms of aviation safety in the sheduled airline environment (lets make sure it stays that way!!) Although I have no doubt that the recent spate of media articles covering certain technical problems that some of the local airlines have been having will start to focus public attention on the age of the commercial fleet in South Africa.

Lastly the one thing that will keep the LLC's flying older metal will be the fact that in order to follow their European Cousins example and place big orders for new jets- will be the fact that the domestic market is just to small as well as being overtraded -so neither of them will achive that critical mass nessasary for that type of investment- Let me just stress here- this does not mean they will not survive- rather the market is just too small to allow for the kind of expansion we have seen in Europe. If there was an open skies policy implimented in Africa then obveously all that changes.

Anyway my 10c worth...

fluffyfan
20th Sep 2005, 20:03
Miragepilote (pilot does not have an e on the end) .........How old are you boet? 12?

Come back and talk to the big boys when you have grown up a bit and dont let the manager at Macdonalds find you using his computer whilst he's out.........

And the answer to the question I know you want to ask "No.....flightsim is nothing like the real thing"

George Tower
21st Sep 2005, 07:45
Thanks Deskjocky, for your post. Answers a lot of my questions. I guess Easyjet and Ryanair must have received an awesome deal from Airbus and Boeing respectively due to the scale of their ops.

My only question that really remains unanswered is that at what level the fuel price must be for the older a/c to really become un-economic. I heard the other day that it costs 400% more today to fill up than it did in December 2001. Additionally the LCC's have not adopted the practice of adding a fuel levy so ultimately this will affect the bottom line???

Deskjocky
21st Sep 2005, 10:04
George Tower,

You are indeed correct- the LLC's dont impliment the fuel levies like the other carriers do. There are 2 reasons for this:

1. They have a much lower cost structure than a traditional airline- reason for this:
-lower distribution costs. Right now the average LLC in SA is spending about 3% of turnover on distribution, while the traditional airlines spend between 6%(optimistic - assuming that the 0 commisision structure has fully taken effect) and 14%(this is where the only 1 domestic carrier sits as they are still paying comissions and over rides etc) In addition to this the LLC's have no "legacy" agreements with unions, service providors etc. In addition to the obveous agreements with labour etc- a good example of this is SAA's relationship with Equity Aviation. Equity charge SAA a heafty sum to handle their airside operations, the charges are mandated in the sale agreement that was drafted when Equity(Then Apron Services) was sold onto its new shareholders- so SAA has to sit tight until the contract period comes to an end and can terminate the deal. 1Time is also handled by Equity- their rate is much much cheaper than what SAA pays due to the fact that 1Time has a choice and could play one service providor off against the other. So it costs 1Time 50% less to board a passenger than it does say SAA and there is zip SAA can do about it for at least a few more years!

2. There seems to be a different approach in the market as to how to pass on the ever increasing fuel costs- the traditional carriers have gone the way of a fuel levy as its a more transparent way of indication the effect of the fuel price. It is also cheaper to go the levy route as the traditional carriers pay all sorts of charges to overseas intermediaries to have their published fares changed in the global distribution systems- this amounts to thousands of dollars each time you change a fare- so it makes a bad situation even worse. The LLC's do not publish their fares in the same way becuase they do not sell their inventory via GDS's and so dont need to file their fares in the same way as the other airlines do- so for them its easier to just increase the fare when the fuel price goes up- which they have done. They also percieve it to be a competitive advantage over the traditional carriers as they feel its more consumer friendly and they are right- one price is all the punter wants to see!

Hope that clears it up for you!

Plane Pain
22nd Sep 2005, 09:28
To kill the Safair take over of 1time, I pulled this off the web:



http://www.businessday.co.za/articles/companies.aspx?ID=BD4A93657

Companies


Posted to the web on: 20 September 2005
1Time takes cheap fares to rest of Africa
Carli Lourens

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Classic Business Day Transcript: 1Time - eyeing international routes



Trade and Industry Editor

THE first low-fare cross-border flights in Africa could take off next year, with South African airline 1Time saying that plans are at an advanced stage.

The no-frills, low-fare airline said yesterday that an announcement could be made in the next few weeks, and it hoped to launch the first flight next year.

1Time marketing director Rodney James said the undisclosed destination was between two and three hours away, and that the country was not a direct neighbour of SA.

He said the airline that operated the route at the moment ran at full capacity most of the time.

1Time also announced yesterday that it had concluded a R20m deal with Imperial Group subsidiary Safair for the acquisition of an MD83 aircraft to enter into service at the end of the month.

1Time CE Glenn Orsmond said that the longer-range capabilities of the new aircraft compared with its current MD82s would give the airline the flexibility to expand its services into Africa.

Orsmond said that the lease cost was fixed in rand terms for the duration of the contract, which made the deal “very attractive”. He said the lease rate was also based on depressed post-September 11 aircraft values, which ensured 1Time a long-term cost advantage.

The airline said the larger aircraft would enable it to keep fares low, despite high jet fuel prices.

The MD83 will replace one of 1Time’s 110-seater DC9-32 aircraft.

1Time now operates a fleet of six aircraft, carrying 80000 passengers a month. The low-fare carrier recently launched its first coastal route — between East London and Cape Town.

Solid Rust Twotter
22nd Sep 2005, 09:58
Jeez, Fluffy...:ooh:

Most Spoories drivers I know are a good bunch of blokes. You must stick out like a sore thumb with that attitude. Angling for a management position, perhaps...:E

PP

Good news!! Great to hear of expansion in airlines as it means more jobs for aircrew. That can't be a bad thing.

Back to irritating the HR folks at 1Time into giving me a job.:ok:

George Tower
22nd Sep 2005, 15:05
Anyone care to hazzard a guess as to where they [1Time] will fly to?

Miragepilote
22nd Sep 2005, 17:14
hehehehehe:p

Thanks fluffy, I had a good giggle....hehehehe:p

I will be flying with 1Time in December, with my parents concent of course and will be doing so next Decmber as well when I turn 13.

Oh yes, 1Time is here to stay, not sure though if SAA will be in business if huffy fluffy becomes a manager at SAA.

And wherever they go I will be onboard GT, as their aircrew and cabincrew is much friendlier SAA's.

hehehehe:p

Duff Man SA
22nd Sep 2005, 20:26
GT,

Mauritius?

Closer to 4hrs from jhb than 2-3, and not sure about RSA/MRU bi-lateral (MK/SAA) agreements, but seems like a good choice for 1time if they can do it. Lots of holidaymakers & lots of travel agents / package deals at a cheaper price than MK/SAA?

cheers

DF :cool:

oompilot
22nd Sep 2005, 21:17
Awful Golfer, I agree with your absolutely spot on description of the national carrier. It’s fitting though, a sinking carrier for a sinking country, but please don’t praise the weekend racer,VB. Robbing your staff is nothing to be proud of, or be used as a business model for others. Small point, but rather name the others, like 1time, that do try and treat staff like an asset and not like s**t.

DC Diesel
23rd Sep 2005, 11:00
To Skyhooker

This little insert has nothing to do with the current topic of 1Time, but relates directly to your assumptions about me. I apoligise for talking out of sync. I even got myself registered just for this occasion! Yes, this is Jorg, dont know who you are nor do I much care. Clearly you have issues which need sorting. Maybe you are the oke who has been talking all this k..k about me in the first place?!? Now thats not very nice!?!
Hmnnnn.... you dont strike me as a person who is very comfortable in his surroundings, very deffensive and emotional. Thanks for the inspiring advice on getting a job,...and a life to boot!!Will mull it over and send you a thank you note should I be successfull in my new endevour!!

If you want to know what my opinion on 1Time is then read on, it aint earth shattering!! I have friends who fly for 1Time, some have become captains while working in this airline and I am extremly chuffed for them. Others became captains and shouldnt have, just my opinion, but good for them too. Fact is that I believe that 1Time is going to be around for some time to come, no matter what unsavoury rumours might be doing their thing. I have never spoken in a negative manner about this airline and resent the likes of you prostituting yourself to a misguided belief about someone else. Clearly you are still labouring under the belief that your job is what I desire most, I hope whoever is going to wake you up from your current hibernation in LALA land, will be ever so gentle with you.

If you knew what you were talking about you would not hide behind that silly, yet rather fitting user name!Take your own advice sunshine!!!

Enough mudslinging, will let you guys get on with the serious business spawning new gossip!:yuk:

Miragepilote
23rd Sep 2005, 20:51
MIRAGE
optical illusion, illusion, vision, imagining, phantasm
PILOTE
pilot, nautical term, aviation, figuratively guide, pilote automatique automatic pilot, autopilot

(Bilingual dictionaries C. Langenscheidt KG Berlin and Munich 2000.)

Now, now huffy fluffyfan, beyond that calm, co-pilot like exterior it seems you are a ball of nerves and a master of abuse. hehehehehe :p

As taken from the dictionary, above a breakdown of my name, for your peace of mind. Taken from 2 French words… pilot, in French is spelt with an "e". Not bad for a 12 year old hey, but who knows, I might actually be French or just have a better command of English and French than you have.

My aim on the website, in addition to making a contribution from time to time, is to calm the tensions, put a smile on a face here and there. But also to have some fun and just to stir the pot a little, sometimes to see who rises to the bait, like you and DC Diesel for example, as both of you were caught by only the slightest hints of provocation on this thread.

Reading the posts gives me something to think about during the day and also sometimes, something to smile about before I go to work. In actual fact I was rolling with laughter this morning after this post of yours…. I’m still smiling… hehehehe:p

I should not respond......I should not respond........I should not respond...........aaaah :mad: it

Miragepilote......just had a look at some of your posts, you are either a moron, or on drugs.......or both.

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
h ah ah aha hhaaaa hhaaa

seriously whats wrong with you.........do you like the funny faces on pprune

Do you work for the SACAA........if so that would explain it


hehehehehe:p, seems you lost it there for a while hehehehe:p

No, fluffy, I am not really a moron… and neither am I on drugs and no, sorry, I’m also not 12 years old… but I am sure these attributes would have helped if I did work for the SACAA.

Look for me on your long haul flights, because where I work, you might only have night stopped once in your life. Sadly SAA is the only direct link to Jhb, but this is changing shortly… fortunately.

Companies such as 1Time or Nationwide provides a better service, without bleeding the South African taxpayer dry, and honestly, I would rather spend my money with them, even with the ongoing strike at Nationwide.


Ps: I do like the laughing face, actually called emoticons. Laughter makes the world go round.

If everybody was as serious as you, the fun would have been taken out of flying long time ago and companies like 1Time and Kalula and Nationwide would all have been called SAA…

One expects more from the South African national carrier, sadly the state of the carrier is reflected in your attitude…

Dans le vif du sujet. hehehehehe:p

yogibear
24th Sep 2005, 05:26
:hmm: ...sheesh guys.....from me asking a simple question and getting my b:mad: s chewed off the thread has moved to slagging off other guys who post on here ??????......:hmm: ...haven't we evloved into bright intelligent beings huh ?

Mirage.....:ok: .......maybe all the smoke and mirrors confused everyone huh?.....keep it up man...you keep the humour going (which is obviously upsetting the 'skygods'......;)

George Tower
24th Sep 2005, 08:04
It seems that an urgent supply of handbags is required:ouch:

http://www.edgars.co.za/catalog/products.aspx?menu_name=ladies&menu_type=0&category=ladies_accessories_handbags :ok:

fluffyfan
24th Sep 2005, 08:15
Sorry.....could not help myself.....

Miragepilote....keep on laughing crazy man.

Changing the subject, Anyone know what the problem was on a 1time flight yesterday (23rd) it was a Safair leased 737 flying for 1time, but one of their passengers (a child) was sick and on oxygen and apparently ambulences etc called out in Cape Town.

Miragepilote
24th Sep 2005, 08:41
hehehehe:p

Fluffy,

Thanks mate... truce for now...can't help you wrt Cape Town, but I sure wish I was there this weekend!!

Yogi,

Only smoke and mirrors, gets the "Skygods" all flustered. Enjoy the flying the weekend, get those eyes back into 3 dimensions, before hitting the screens again.

hehehehe:p

yogibear
24th Sep 2005, 09:47
:p ...Mirage....or is that really you?......will have to see when we get closer........heheheheheheehe...No flying this week-end.....too busy helping friends out at JIA..

Will do some digging and see if I can find anything on the 1T/CT issue.....;)

jojojett
4th Oct 2005, 06:33
Heads up DC diesel:

If your the the Jorg that I think you are then this one is for you you, if not, I apologize.

I was involved indirectly in your interview process for a certain carrier not so long ago (+- 18mnths back) and did the usual ref checks. Well... to put it diplomatically... Maybe you should revise your opinions of your "mates" at 1Time. Not very flattering reviews. You definitely don't need "friends" like that.

Just a headsup mate.


;)

revertedrubber
8th Oct 2005, 15:19
Regarding the question about the child that had a medical emergency on a 1time flight, the flight was actually on it's way to George and the child started complaining about not being able to breath. He was administered oxygen onboard. Ambulance were requested and were at a/c when it landed. It was suspected that the child might have been suffering from asthma as his mother has a history of asthma and epilipsy. It was later established that he infact had an allergic reaction to his fruit juice that he drank on board that contained extracts of pineapple. Well done to the cabin crew who handled the situation professionally and maintain a calm atmosphere on board. :ok: