ALAE

[4Rvibes]

As a disillusioned ex-member of the ALAE what are the pro's and con's of joining again. I work in a fairly small company with no union recognition.

[aeroguru]

They are very representative of the aims and views of the UK lame, and they say they have provided legal representation if needed.But they will never give any examples.
They are in touch with the CAA and do pressurise them from our standpoints.
They have good links with similar bodies of other nations.
If you could get your fellow workers in this small company to join then they could really make a job of representing you.

[Diablo]

New E.U. regulations require them to talk to any "body that represents a number of employees" not sure of the actual percentages, but if enough of you join the company has to negotiate with them.

[SeeNext]

In my experience (a couple of years ago), we contacted the legal dept for advice etc. on a dispute with our management over pay and conditions.

The advice given by ALAE proved to be wrong in several areas, it took a VERY long time to get replies to letters (if at all) and phone calls were not returned. Not what you need in an urgent matter.

I'm still a member but beware if you are only going to join to get legal help etc.

[aeroguru]

Any response from ALAE on this?
Seeing as the ALAE chat/forum is down right now.As a member I would like to know and I didn't know of this before the AGM.

[spannersatcx]

I doubt very much wether any members of the Executive Committee read this, so I would guess you would have to contact them directly for a response.

[KwikPhix]

Any view's on the AEEU. I believe the TUC recommended them as the union for People working in Aircaft Engineering.They have over 750,000 members, and huge financial asset's,Free legal helpline's, Know your rights etc. Maybe they are worth looking at ?

[SeeNext]

I don't know too much about AEEU but a bit of info for your dossier is that AEEU and MSF recently voted on a merger. It was passed.

[aeroguru]

One of the reasons for the original formation of ALAE was that AUEW and the TGUW
got so big and all enclosing that they could not represent the views of a small group of guys such as the LAME.

[LAME duck]

I totally agree aeroguru, but I think that the more members a body has the more clout it has (within reason of course). The ALAE is too small to guide us the way we would all like to go, i.e. pay & recognition. We, at my company, are represented by the TGWU who have just rolled over and accepted a pay deal far less than our demands.

We need a union dedicated to a/c engineering but with a decent sized membership, a fine balance, perhaps, in our specialised trades! We need a voice and a loud one at that!

Anyone got any more ideas or info. on ALAE & AEEV? The "old gits" in my company keep harping on about SLATE.

[aeroguru]

Please inform those "old gits" that the Society of LIC.Aircraft Engineers and Technicians/SLAET" has never represented anyone as a union.

[LAME duck]

Thanks for that.

Very interesting!