TIMTS
23rd May 2005, 01:26
I fly the police helicopter in St. Maarten, and on a patrol today I had a "situation" I would like to get more info on.
We were hovering behind a hill, about 3nm East and a little West of the extended runway centerline for rwy 27.
On the radio I could hear a Dash-8 getting a clearance to take off from rwy 27, so we stayed below the ridgeline, opposite side of the hill.
The object we were checking out moved over to the other side of the hill...and we had to follow. I waited until I could see the Dash-8 had passed my altitude and was heading south, away from me and climbing...probably 1.5-2nm away.
I then asked tower for permission to enter the departure area, calling traffic departing in sight. Tower gave permission, and we moved to the other side.
The Dash-8 then called tower and said he had traffic on TCAS 100ft below him...which by that time was not entirely true..as he was way higher than that....I was at that time about 300ft msl and 50ft agl.
Tower asked me if I heard the last transmission, and I replied that I had traffic in sight, no factor and that I was way more than 100ft away.
Dash-8 pilot came back and said that it didn't matter, I was 100ft below and within 3nm...he didn't like me being in the valley there..as it didn't leave him with many options.
So..the question of the day is...did I do anything I shouldn't have? I want to learn from this if I did. I waited until I thought the situation was without any risk for anyone, and got ATC clearance...but I realize that doesn't mean much if the other guy don't agree.
Also, how can a helicopter 50ft agl behind a climbing dash-8 leave him without options?
Thanks for any replies...
(we didn't get the bad guy btw)
We were hovering behind a hill, about 3nm East and a little West of the extended runway centerline for rwy 27.
On the radio I could hear a Dash-8 getting a clearance to take off from rwy 27, so we stayed below the ridgeline, opposite side of the hill.
The object we were checking out moved over to the other side of the hill...and we had to follow. I waited until I could see the Dash-8 had passed my altitude and was heading south, away from me and climbing...probably 1.5-2nm away.
I then asked tower for permission to enter the departure area, calling traffic departing in sight. Tower gave permission, and we moved to the other side.
The Dash-8 then called tower and said he had traffic on TCAS 100ft below him...which by that time was not entirely true..as he was way higher than that....I was at that time about 300ft msl and 50ft agl.
Tower asked me if I heard the last transmission, and I replied that I had traffic in sight, no factor and that I was way more than 100ft away.
Dash-8 pilot came back and said that it didn't matter, I was 100ft below and within 3nm...he didn't like me being in the valley there..as it didn't leave him with many options.
So..the question of the day is...did I do anything I shouldn't have? I want to learn from this if I did. I waited until I thought the situation was without any risk for anyone, and got ATC clearance...but I realize that doesn't mean much if the other guy don't agree.
Also, how can a helicopter 50ft agl behind a climbing dash-8 leave him without options?
Thanks for any replies...
(we didn't get the bad guy btw)