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Old Smokey
6th Feb 2005, 09:39
LONGEST FLIGHT DISTANCE

A question which would have been relegated to trivia a few years ago, but we live in an age when new generation aircraft are capable of true antipodean flight with commercially viable payloads.

What is the longest Great Circle distance between any 2 INTERNATIONAL airports on earth ?

Not interested in the distance from Dogpatch Minnesota to Oodnadatta Australia, just International airports.

I make it to be London Gatwick, to Christchurch New Zealand.

EGKK - NZCH = 10254.1 nm, just short of the absolute maximum possible antipodean distance by 545.9 nm.

Gatwick beats Heathrow by a mere 10.5 nm, and Gatwick - Christchurch beats the current world's longest commercial route, Singapore - New York by 1977.1 nm.

Just interested, anyone know of 2 International airports further apart than EGKK-NZCH.

Regards,

Old Smokey

Capt Fathom
6th Feb 2005, 10:38
Santa Maria, Azores, Portugal. (Does that count?)
Sydney, Australia.
10552nm

Seat1APlease
6th Feb 2005, 12:52
How about per(perth australia) to bda (bermuda)




http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=per-bda%0D%0A&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=red&PATH-UNITS=mi&SPEED-GROUND=&SPEED-UNITS=kts&RANGE-STYLE=best&RANGE-COLOR=navy&MAP-STYLE=


or akl-agp auckland malaga depending on whether agp counts as an international airport, in your eyes

zed3
6th Feb 2005, 18:57
Outside the brief , but of interest (?) , I can remember back in 1971 ...uuurgh ... a Caledonian B707 coming out of Gatwick to Singapore (WSSS was unknown and VERY exotic then !) and going for the record . We in the Brussels UAC (before the Maastricht days) cleared him direct to ... cannot remember now , but much telephone patching (aah) was required . two days later I read in the Daily Telegraph that he had broken the record - nice feeling that . Those were the days !

The Invisible Cat
6th Feb 2005, 20:03
If you admit to have only one international airport :

AKL-OZP : 12413 mi / 19977 km
Auckland [Intl], NZ -> Seville - Moron de la Frontera [Moron AB], ES (11801 ft rwy)
http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=AKL,AKL-OZP&RANGE=12413mi@AKL&RANGE-STYLE=shaded&PATH-UNITS=mi

or even better :

SYX-ARI : 12430 mi / 20004 km
Sanya [Phoenix Intl], CN -> Arica [Chacalluta], CL
http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=SYX,SYX-ARI&RANGE=12430mi@SYX&RANGE-STYLE=shaded&PATH-UNITS=mi

longest found (neither international) :

SFD-MLG : 12433 mi / 20008 km
San Fernando de Apu, VE -> Malang [Abdul Rachman Saleh], ID
http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=SFD,SFD-MLG&RANGE=12433mi@SFD&RANGE-STYLE=shaded&PATH-UNITS=mi

CCK-RNI : 12438 mi / 20017 km (knowing that the theoretical maximum is : 12450mi / 20037 km)
Cocos (Keeling) Islands, CC -> Corn Island, NI
http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=CCK,CCK-RNI&RANGE=12438mi@CCK&RANGE-STYLE=shaded&PATH-UNITS=mi

[edited 'cause one just found an even longer one]

BXE-ZGU : 12439 mi / 20019 km
Bakel, SN -> Gaua, VU
http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=BXE,BXE-ZGU&RANGE=12439mi@BXE&RANGE-STYLE=shaded&PATH-UNITS=mi

Global Pilot
6th Feb 2005, 22:52
Not an intl airport but KSLN(with a 13337' runway) will be hitting the headlines soon. KSLN-KSLN will be a prety good contender for the longest distance between two airports.

http://www.virginatlanticglobalflyer.com/NewsFeatures/NewsArchive/Repositioning.jsp

enicalyth
9th Feb 2005, 11:23
When you are lonely in EGYP and wonder where on earth there is someone more lonely try UEGG, 10622nm and fairly antipodic.

Old Smokey
10th Feb 2005, 22:04
I can see that this one is going to get down to 'pure' perfect sphere spherical Trig Vs WGS84. Thanks for the replies ladies and gentleman, an old London-Christchurch myth bites the dust.

I'll be back,

Regards,

Old Smokey

Old Smokey
11th Feb 2005, 09:12
SASKATOON9999,

EGKK - NZCH = 10254.1 nm (Perfect Sphere), 10257 nm (WGS84)
EGAA - NZCH = 10128.2 nm (Perfect Sphere), 10129 nm (WGS84)

I think maybe you were looking at the Belfast - Christchurch distance in Statute Miles - maybe.

It seems that UK/Ireland - New Zealand pairs have been exceeded by others anyway, any last votes?

Regards,

Old Smokey

bealine
12th Feb 2005, 08:02
Just out of curiosity, I suppose these flights must have to stop en-route to take on fuel?

Anyone know the longest commercial Point to Point flight?

(We used to reckon it was LGW/LHR-EZE)

swh
14th Feb 2005, 10:25
bealine,

SQ do Singapore to New York non stop, about 8300 nm.

Old Smokey,

Some of the longest routes I could come up with ...

From To Distance
SEPC (02°45'06"S 78°15'49"W) WMKK (02°44'44"N 101°42'36"E) 10797 nm
WICT (05°14'32"S 105°10'44"E) SKQU (05°12'45"N 74°53'01"W) 10788 nm
SKGO (04°45'29"N 75°57'21"W) WIPD (04°47'13"S 103°55'59"E) 10806 nm
SAAC (31°17'49"S 57°59'48"W) ZSPD (31°08'34"N 121°47'33"E) 10789 nm
SATU (29°46'14"S 57°58'44"W) ZSNB (29°49'30"N 121°27'54"E) 10785 nm
SASQ (22°09'44"S 65°34'11"W) VHHH (22°18'32"N 113°54'53"E) 10784 nm
SASQ (22°09'44"S 65°34'11"W) VHSK (22°26'12"N 114°04'49"E) 10780 nm
SAZT (37°14'15"S 59°13'41"W) ZSYT (37°24'06"N 121°22'18"E) 10780 nm
SAAP (31°47'41"S 60°28'49"W) ZSNJ (31°44'31"N 118°51'43"E) 10780 nm
SAAC (31°17'49"S 57°59'48"W) ZSSS (31°11'52"N 121°20'11"E) 10779 nm
SAZB (38°43'30"S 62°10'10"W) ZBTJ (39°07'28"N 117°20'46"E) 10772 nm
SANI (28°02'16"S 67°34'49"W) ZGHA (28°11'21"N 113°13'11"E) 10771 nm
SAZO (38°29'23"S 58°48'58"W) ZYTL (38°57'56"N 121°32'19"E) 10770 nm
SACT (30°20'43"S 66°17'37"W) ZHHH (30°47'02"N 114°12'29"E) 10769 nm
SASQ (22°09'44"S 65°34'11"W) VMMC (22°08'58"N 113°35'30"E) 10770 nm
NSTU (14°19'54"S 170°42'41"W) DRZR (13°46'44"N 08°59'02"E) 10765 nm
SASQ (22°09'44"S 65°34'11"W) ZGSZ (22°38'22"N 113°48'45"E) 10763 nm
SARS (26°45'23"S 60°29'35"W) RCMT (26°13'27"N 120°00'10"E) 10763 nm


:ok:

bealine
14th Feb 2005, 21:06
Thanks, swh - looks like I might owe someone a beer!!!;)

enicalyth
16th Feb 2005, 10:53
You started it Old Smokey!

Take two International Airports eg PANC and YPDN. Distance 5740nm. Now go the long way round via international airports (okay FHAW is a port of entry). PANC-TXKF-FHAW-FACT-YPPH-YPDN. This is 15884nm. Add the two and you get 21624 which is pretty close to 21600, one route therefore being the pode and the other the auntie pode. Finally I have flown into each, FHAW being my fave. So do you know a short way and a long way achievable on your current mount such that the sum of the two distances is the big great circle? And flown them? And isn't it beer o'clock yet?

Rgds

E

PS - obviously I mean that at some time you have logged each, but mebbe someone has been there and dunnit!

Old Smokey
17th Feb 2005, 06:09
OK enicalyth, I started it and it's time to wind it up.

Just taking the time to check the responses........then the thread can fade away into oblivion.

Regards,

Old Smokey