A Question for Buffy?

[swampy_lynx_puke]

If you were to have the pleasure of meeting the Rt Hon Geoffrey Hoon what question would you ask him?

[Roland Pulfrew]

Why do you not stand up for HM Forces against HMT, DSS, DofH etc etc when we are underfunded, undermanned, facing severe overstretch and when those that you have invested in (as our future leaders ie those who have done ASC, ICSC, ACS etc etc) are leaving at their first opportunity?

:confused: :confused:

[juliet]

just expect an answer along the lines of
"you are not underfunded, undermanned or overstretched. in fact this is a wonderful period where the forces are recieving more than ever before. people are not leaving at higher than normal rates, though those that do leave are merely helping in the drawdown of numbers in the service. we will have less servicemen but these will be better supported and better equiped than ever due to this labour govt."
have had this line given to me by a couple of govt types now and scarily i think that they actually believe that this is true:mad:

[Champagne Anyone?]

My question for buffoon....

When are you going to resign your position with the government and stop destroying our armed forces?

Can't wait for the answer!

[devonianflyer]

Mr Hoon.
Do you not think that someone in your's and Mr Blair's position should have previous service in the Armed Forces to qualify them to ask other people to go half way across the world and wage war?

[uknasa]

"Do you not think that someone in your's and Mr Blair's position should have previous service in the Armed Forces to qualify them to ask other people to go half way across the world and wage war?"

Like Mrs T did during the Falklands?

[nick0021]

Mr Hoon,


How do you justify your lack of military expenditure, when the yanks nick name our troop the 'borrowers', due to our soldiers being ill,and under-equiped?

Can't stand the man. :mad:

[Itsrainingagain]

Mr Hoon

How'd you get to be so inept - does it take practice or were you just born that way?:\

[Eagle 270]

Mine would be more of a request than a question

-"stand up so I can tw*t you again, you spineless little w*nker".

[Lafyar Cokov]

Hello - Mr Hoon, Who do you think is best placed to lead one of the most traditional and respected armed forces in the world - an MP with some experience serving in the Armed Forces, or a kinniving, spineless ex- lawyer who will do what ever his slimy boss tells him and be non-accountable for any of it?

Just a question - nothing meant by this!!

[BEagle]

Buff - how do you manage to sleep at night?

And did you know that you look just like Freddy 'Parrot Face' Davies?

[WE Branch Fanatic]

"Can you hold these electrodes please?"

[crossbow]

I have to disagree. I believe that the Secretary of State for Defence should NEVER be selected because of his previous history as having served in the Armed Forces. Im sure that having a SofS with the qualities of Mr Hoon is far more acceptable than having an ex soldier in the post. Or to that matter an Ex serviceman of any branch. Nope, I think we are doing ok with Mr Hoon and long may he reign. If you don't like him you can alwasy vote in Mr Soames. Now theres a chap I'd like to see climb down from an F3. Wouldn't that be fun, watching him try to get into a Challenger?

But if he is to be believed then the Conservative party will increase spending on defence to a tune of £2.7 Billion. So where are they going to get this money from? Increase Taxes? Borrow it... or whats more likely is that it will be



we will be able to transfer savings from other departments into the defence budget as well as making major savings in the vast and inefficient bureaucracy of the Ministry of Defence. Sounds like another Defence "review" to me.

Nope. To be honest it doesn't matter who the SofS is. Whether he be an ex Serviceman or an accountant. We will still get shafted.

[JessTheDog]

Why do you think everybody calls you "TCH" or "That C##t Hoon"?

[TurbineTooHot]

What does Hari Kari mean to you?

In your case, it would mean a lot to us.....

[Navaleye]

Mr Hoon, could you please tell me which branches of the services have more money to spend this year compared to last year or the year before that?

[FatBaldChief]

Met the man. Didn't like the man.
My question would be 'How long before jointery turns into one fighting force?'
All of us then uniform in bellbottoms with a staple belt, a DPM jacket and a field service cap with a sword/eagle/anchor badge on it.
:8
Then at least I could be the equivalent of a 23 year old Staff Sgt

[The Swinging Monkey]

'TCH, how long does it take you to wash your arm after you retract it from Mr Bliars ar$e each day?'

Sorry folks, that was childish I know, but I just can't stand the arragont little bastard.

I need a lie down

'Caruthers, a large scotch please'

[XV208 SNOOPY]

Met the "man?"
Spinless ****** who is a yes man.

However

Had the pleasure of dropping hydraulic oil over his nice cream suit!
:ok: :ok:
What **** goes into operational aircraft wearing a cream suit??

T**T !!!!

[Eagle 270]

What **** goes into operational aircraft wearing a cream suit??

Clearly one who has no idea whatsoever of the inner workings of a Force he is 'Overlord' to.

Why is it that the current Cabinet makes my skin crawl, let alone not having an ounce of respect for them?

Has it ever been this bad before?

[teeteringhead]

Has it ever been this bad before?Fraid so...

..."Sleepy" Fred Mulley in '77 (HM's Silver Jubilee)

... and before that there was (??) Bottomley, an ex-union thug (like 2 Jags only not as suave, debonair and eloquent) who, on passing through Gan (13 months unaccompanied, no blueys, no 'phone calls!) en route for the Far East says:

"Cor blimey luvvaduck (or similar) bleedin' wevver's fackin' brillyant hereabouts. Wives and kiddies must luv it 'ere":rolleyes:

Edited to: Change bad northern to bad mockney in the quote. Having googled him he was from Landan - and was Commonwealth Sec not Defence.

Arthur Bottomley (from DNB):Bottomley was one of the last of the old-style Labour politicians. A working man with little formal education, he made his way to Westminster through Toynbee Hall, trade unionism, and local government. He was proud of his achievements, but never lost his engaging simplicity of manner. Always a north-east Londoner at heart, he saw out his days in the house at 19 Lichfield Road, Woodford Green, that he and his wife, by whom he was survived (there were no children), had shared since the early 1950s. He died in London on 3 November 1995.

[SmilingKnifed]

Blagged an invite into his office to discuss what I felt was some appaling treatment.

I was greeted by a jellyfish in a crumpled suit without even the decency to stand, shake hands or look me in the eye.

His exact quote, 'why is your situation my problem?'

Coupled with the 'self deprecating' cartoon of a burning Chinook on his wall, he had the effect of inducing the sort of loathing/pity/disgust that only a gollum like character could induce.

My promise to all fellow prooners is that I'll be returning from the states in May to cast my vote, hopefully preventing this repugnant creature from ever representing my home town and the organisation I love in Parliament again.

Any of that gin going spare? :ok:

[PPRuNeUser0172]

"Mr Hoon Sir, you appear to have something on the back of your shoe"

At which point he lifts his heal in the style of julian clary and allows you to respond with

"Hello Sailor"

At which point he will go, "what's a sailor, aren't they part of the army?"

C**t;)

[TacLan]

Which are you, a thief or a liar?

All politicians should hang.........and I'll have some of that Gin too!

[BEagle]

On meeting Hoon, talk directly at his arse...

"What do you think you are you doing?"

"Sorry, Buff. Since so much **** comes out of all your primary orifices, I'm just trying to work which particular one you also use for conversation...."

A true tale:

Buff came bounding onto one of HM's Vickers FunBus a/c. Sprawled comfortably in the nav seat with feet up on the jump seat is one splendidly independent-of-spirit navigator. Not quite a social hand grenade, but fairly unimpressed by pomposity and equally contemptuous of pretence. You know the type...

Buff, expecting fawning sycophancy, is somewhat taken aback. He glares at the Nav and says "Well, don't make any effort..."

"I won't then", says the Nav.

Buff turns on his heel and disappears into the back.

"Who the f*** was that?" asks our hero.

[kippermate]

Or,

More realistically.......


'Can I get you another drink, sir?'


:ooh:

[Ali Barber]

Having had the great misfortune to meet the spineless tw@t, it would be a pointless exercise. He spends all the time looking over your shoulder to see if there someone improtant there for him to suck up to. That or he looks straight through you as if you're not there. Quite the most arrogant and pompous tw@t I've ever met.:yuk:

[Itsrainingagain]

Let me at 'im, let me at 'im!

[JessTheDog]

May I suggest a "bounty" on TCH?

I will happily send a cheque for £50 to Pprune or another agency. I suggest others do the same. The pot is up for grabs by the individual who gets TCH into the most demeaning, public and humiliating position this side of the General Election.

Anyone heard the story about Two Jags leaving the Cabinet Office, assuming he is unobserved, preening in front of the mirror and addressing his reflection :"You're a sex god". :yuk:

[SmilingKnifed]

Jess,

Good idea mate, but that tw:mad: t is more than capable of doing it himself.

Why not all register in the Ashfield constituency and join me in ridding us of him?

[crossbow]

Sadly, all you guys who are calling the great Mr Hoon probably don't remember past SofS's such as Mr Portiloooooo. Now he was great...Oh and what about Mr Nott? He sold the family silver. So I reckon wenshould stick with Mr Hoon. He is an honourable man who has this country and its security in his best interest.

VOTE LABOUR

[SmilingKnifed]

Are you military?!

Or just plain mad :ugh:

[The Swinging Monkey]

crossbow,

I've finally got it.......you don't work for BWOS at all do you? In fact, you work for Tony the Bliar don't you ???
In fact, maybe you are TCH in disguise, or a relative??

Either way, I regret to say that you are making as bigger ar$e of yourself as Hoon does.

Take yourself off, have a good talk to yourself and check in to your nearest Physcho ward - you need assessment urgently.

Kind regards
TSM
'Caruthers, get me the number of the nut house close to BWOS'

[Maple 01]

I hate to say it guys but the Tories were cr@p too - Fatty Soames anyone?

Arrogant tw@t

[BEagle]

Actually, Bunter Soames was a much more personable politico than that slimeball BuffHoon can ever hope to be.

Agree that El Portijo was an oily git though. A mate was working in the MoD-box at the time and popped into the squadron at one stage to show his new civil serpent boss around...."Ahh, BEagle, mate", he teased, "Your friend Portillo sends his regards!". "Really? How is the obnoxious little ar$e-bandit" was my riposte. Perhaps rather unwise as the civil serpent accompanying my chum was busy ingratiating himself with the Tory party at the time! He did not look too pleased.....

And TSM, the nearest nuthouse to BWOS is BWOS!!

[Cambridge Crash]

I have to slightly side with CROSSBOW, in that Hoon the best of a bad run of recent Defence Secretary - with possible exception of Tom King. (more like the weed on the top of the pile of farm-yard sweepings) In spite of the MOD being an executive arm of government, it's not sexy in the Downing Street Policy Unit. I did hear an off-hand comment at a academic conference, where the speaker, a senior Minister, referred in conversation to the Chiefs of staff being 'over-promoted grammar school boys'. Bright, but not that bright was the Minster's inference.

Perhaps we should be merged and run by the bright young things in the Foreign Office - a much more collegiate atmosphere than Main Building.


Question fo SofS:

In light of the absence of WMD in Iraq, can you justify the invasion of a Sovereign State whilst claiming
erga omnes?

Supplementary Question: Can you sleep at night in knowledge of the deaths that you have, in part, allowed to be inflicted on British and Iraqis?

CC

[Big Unit Specialist]

Anyone remember Rifkind? Thought not, I met him once in Benbecula - terrible fall of dandruff and his cardigan had holes in it , probably from a cat. I certainly did not ingratiate myself to him whilst standing (swaying gently by this stage) outside in the mess garden in polite groups waiting to be introduced. Unfortunately our group was getting outside of a considerable amount of Pimms and Guinness so my comment of "so the scruffy little runt thinks he's too good to speak to us" did not go down too well (he was directly behind me and the others in the group were going visibly pale but of course didn't say anything) and strangely enough he didn't! Always remember, check six then open mouth.......

Mr Hoon,

Were you bullied as a child?

[Flap62]

Cambridge crash,

Hmmm, a reply from a politically interested student with a ppl who manages to get latin and the phrase "supplementary question" into his reply. Aren't you clever. Bellend!

[Richae]

Why not just ask him if he has any last request....

[Cambridge Crash]

Flap 62

I am sorry that you should feel challenged by a post-grad student with a PPL (and 20 years of Commissioned service).

Erga omnes is the term in international law obligating non-injured states to take action under 'universal' treaties eg genocide, slavery or codified peremptory norms.

Sorry Flaps, I seemed to have missed the question you wish to address the Secreatry of State. Shall I add it to my Supplementary?

CC

[Flap62]

Cambridge

Pretentious, moi?