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river-prop
9th Jan 2005, 07:37
I have to do my ATPL soon but have no time for a ground school could any one tel me wat the best self study notes are?

river

B Sousa
9th Jan 2005, 11:14
Try these folks. I used them for Air-Law and it worked good. www.aeronav.co.za

Rhodie
9th Jan 2005, 11:54
River-prop...

A small word of advice, if I may...

If you are prepared to re-write 5 or 6 times, and possibly lose credits for subjects passed, then self-study is OK - otherwise, and notwithstanding your time constraints, try to get in some recognised ground school time - it will save you time and tears and money, in the long run...

Cheers

R

lostINgp
9th Jan 2005, 12:14
Nonense!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get a set of old FTC notes before they got corupted and self study those, the new CFA are OK (basicly the FTC notes corrupted)ask around I'm sure you can find them and if you have to pay a couple hundred its worth it.
I did it in 5 months and only sat a course on the last exam I needed(so all in all my ATP cost R550 for one course, hand me down notes and Exam fee's about R1500 in total).

Good luck

Captain Pheremone
9th Jan 2005, 12:16
Hi there

With respect to above Rhodie post, if you have time and ability (i.e. hard work, no kids, dogs, wife, dirty nappies etc) self study 3-4 weeks is ample. I did it a few years ago before the computer system so.... is this mindset still valid??????.....!!!!

BUT a younger colleague has only last month also written all ATP subjects (7 I think??) after self study and passed all of them first time with very good marks.

Well done to him and good luck to you. If you want to speak to him you can PM me and I will ask him if he is willing to speak to you. I don't know if he is a ppruner yet.

Cheers

Solid Rust Twotter
9th Jan 2005, 12:19
Self studied as well using FTC and fill in notes from AVEX for the bits FTC left out.

Bought a used set of notes for R200-00 so cost was minimal.

Rhodie
9th Jan 2005, 12:51
lostINgp Nonense!!!!!!!!!!!!

Notwithstanding the "Nonense" , my apologies for trying to help...

Maybe Lost1 can help River-prop, after all, he I did it in 5 months and only sat a course on the last exam I needed(so all in all my ATP cost R550 for one course, hand me down notes and Exam fee's about R1500 in total).

So, if you have 5 months, and still want to study ONE course, then there's your answer.

Captain P - thank-you for a valid answer. :ok:

SRT - hell, I know your'e a bleedin rocket scientist..!! Bring the Gilroys to the next meet. :ok:

Cheers

R

B Sousa
9th Jan 2005, 15:24
Rhodie
Come now, lets not get upset. These folks study......I have seen you in action. One question, One beer; One more question, two beers......

lostINgp
9th Jan 2005, 19:22
I seconb B Sousa.

Rodie, your profile says PPL or has it not been updated, if its up to date how can you give advice on the ATP, please clarify this for us.

and so I cant type, its these fat fingers I have.

to all those COMM and ATP who did self study well done!

lost IN gp (not lost 1)

wheels up
10th Jan 2005, 22:08
Self studied for ATP and found the FTC notes £$%& useless, especially AT&G. Riddled with errors and parts were obviously written by someone who's first language was more likely to be Latvian than English. In all fairness though, quality varied from OK to pathetic. "Before they get corrupted??" No need - they did a pretty good job of it themselves - I felt embarrased for them at times.

Avex are definitely best of the bunch. A lot of the syllabus is covered by the com notes, so use whatever you have already - supplement where neccesary with ATP notes. I found the Aeronav typical questions useful - get hold of a set if you can.

Good Luck!

Beechdrivr
11th Jan 2005, 19:46
So in summation river-prop, what these guys are trying to tell you is, get both sets of notes and be prepared to work your @ss off! Did the same as SRT and it worked like a charm!:ok:

Jelly Doughnut
12th Jan 2005, 16:23
Self-studied and passed them all a few years ago... back then Avex notes were definitely the best for covering all the material, and FTC were good for typical exam questions.
Three weeks of hard work... :ok:

Solid Rust Twotter
12th Jan 2005, 16:42
JD

Pretty much spot on. FTC notes for the questions as the notes themselves were a trifle dodgy and self contradictory, and AVEX for the actual kopkrap, blood, sweat and tears.

river-prop
12th Jan 2005, 18:34
Thanx for all the good advice guys,looks like i am going to have a really hard time for the next couple of months. Well of to the books for me!!!

river :{

south coast
12th Jan 2005, 18:57
I heard that the CAA were doing a special a while back, pay for 3 and pass 7.

I dont knowif they are still offering this deal, but could be worth a go.


:O :D :)

Let410
12th Jan 2005, 19:23
Shame South coast.

You got a bit of a raw deal.....if you got that right!!!

I heard of guy only paying for 2 and getting 7.


P.S. GO BAWMY ARMY

Jelly Doughnut
14th Jan 2005, 16:30
"Folks, this is the captain speaking, we have a problem up here.
Are there any GENUINELY qualified pilots on board?"

;)