Are we too loyal?

[Wheelybin]

How many people at your unit have gone to work elsewhere? How many people have moved abroad,gone to work non-NATS? How many people does your unit have coming up to retirement having never worked for anyone else?
We have to accept the fact that we are now ,at least "part" privatised.Surely £800m was actually a small price to pay for a workforce so dedicated to the company. Will our new management see us as some of the best in the world at what we do, and pay us the appropriate salary!
Or perhaps a group of workers hanging on to their present salaries and pension rights,hoping any major change wont affect us.
It is certainly true that airline management dont seem to hold on to their best assets, will we be any different.
Thoughts please.......PS I have written a similar subject in rumours and news entitled "Loyalty...does it get you anywhere"
in an attempt to get a pilots perspective.

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[Matt Spartou]

At a unit some of my mates work at they have lost something like 15 ATCOs to non-NATS (UK and overseas) units in the last four or five years. Doesn't seem very loyal to me.

[Bagheera]

15 Atcos!!!! Thats half an airport, or 5% of Latcc...doubt it somehow!

[Lardyboy]

No actually, he's right. There's people leaving Ice Station Zebra(aka EGPD) all the time, and 15 sounds about right, though some of them have moved to other NATS units. So the moral is Bagheera, don't doubt what you don't know

[Matt Spartou]

Lardy has the ident correct. Spoke to one of my mates this morning who says since 95/96-ish about ten airport ATCOs have gone non-NATS (EGNT, NV, NX, PK, NM and the Middle East among the beneficiaries) With a handful of offshore staff going to similar locations.

For the mathematician in Bagheera that's about 20% of the staff http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/eek.gif

[FooFighter]

I think the EGPD example needs to be handled with caution.

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[MonkeyWrench]

Okay, so EGPD has a staff turnover issue. With that many staff leaving, is it about loyalty or just that geography tends to be pretty permanent? EGPD ain't getting any closer to "everywhere else".

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