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hotelmode
15th Nov 2004, 18:17
Good Day

I am doing a feasibility study on the Falcon 20 Freighter for a overnight express cargo operation .

Should anybody be able to assist me , please find the following :

1. Sector Distance 670 nm
2. Landing alternate 50 nm

3. Departure Airfield ( Nil Obstacles )

a. Elevation 5 556 ft ( Rwy 01 TDZE 5574 ft and Rwy 19 TDZE 5510 ft )
b. Runway length 6 500 ft
c. Mean Summer Temperature 25 to 35 degrees Celsius
d. Mean Summer Pressure 1025 to 1035 Hpa

4. Aircraft Empty Weight ( Typical ), Max Zero Fuel Weight , Max Take Off Weight , Max Landing Weight and Max Ramp Weight ?

5. Max Payload vs Performance Limitations ?

6. What are the TBO times for the engines and Inspection Cycles for the Aircraft ?

Thanking you in advance

411A
15th Nov 2004, 23:59
Fred Smith did this very same exercise over thirty years ago and came to the conclusion that bigger aircraft would pay better...and he was right...they DO.

Good luck.:ok: :suspect:

Aslak
16th Nov 2004, 10:47
Please, check your PM

Cheers!

hotelmode
17th Nov 2004, 07:12
Thanks Aslak

Thank you very much for the mail.

If you can assist I would appreciate.I am stuck between a rock and a hard place as far as getting the performance gen , all the sites I have visited only give brochure info which are utterly useless .

The Falcons I have looked at all have the GE CF700-2D-2 engines

Have a good one

Cheers

csd
20th Nov 2004, 08:59
Flight Refuelling Aviation at Bournemouth - UK operate some of these. They may be able to help with some of the numbers. Tel +44 1202 409013

I suspect that you'll be weight limited on take-off though. If I recall correctly, FRA's Falcons were certficated to a higher MTOW than the standard fit.

MTOW - 30 000lbs
MLW - 27320lbs
MZFW - 22000lbs

Good luck

windycorner
21st Nov 2004, 16:18
:ok: Seems like a good one to chase up on .........
Windycorner

411A
21st Nov 2004, 19:55
Ah...well yes, hotelmode, the CF700 is what they were originally certified with.
However, some have been re-engined with TFE731's, but I don't think any freighters were....standing by to be corrected, of course.
:E

meatball
22nd Nov 2004, 15:30
I was lucky enough to fly the cargo version Falcon 20, mostly all ex-FedEx aircraft, hauling cargo all over Europe, USA, Mexico, Canada and the Caribbean. Here are some of my notes:

Max T/off & Ldgs 10000feet
Max Runway Slope +/- 2 degrees
Max Tailwind 10 kts
Crosswind 25 kts
Max Ceiling 42000 feet

Max T/O 28660 lbs
Taxi 28660 lbs
Ldg Wt 27320 lbs
ZFW 22000 lbs

Vmo/Mmo 350Kias M .85
Fuel capacity 2x470 (feeders)& 2x2089 (mains)
Total Fuel 5006 lbs

and many many more details if anyone interested
;) ;)

I dont know of any re-engined freighters. The company I flew for
were considering Garrets back in 1994 but were too costly compared to sticking with the CF 700 2Dīs. I never was able to get up to FL 420, honestly never tried past 390 as the engines were fairly clapped out. The Coast Guard flew the retro-fits, anyone remember the picture? Any ex or current Falcon pilots out there ?;)

ehwatezedoing
23rd Nov 2004, 22:41
Other stuff to look at if needed.

http://www.knighthawk.ca/Home/

They are using 3 Falcon 20 as freighters

hotelmode
24th Nov 2004, 07:56
A big thank you to 411A , csd , windycorner ,meatball and ehwatezedoing .

Have followed up on your leads and found a great deal of gen I was looking for.

meatball please check your PM

Hope to meet up for a cold one some day

Cheers !