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hotelmode
15th Nov 2004, 18:17
Good Day
I am doing a feasibility study on the Falcon 20 Freighter for a overnight express cargo operation .
Should anybody be able to assist me , please find the following :
1. Sector Distance 670 nm
2. Landing alternate 50 nm
3. Departure Airfield ( Nil Obstacles )
a. Elevation 5 556 ft ( Rwy 01 TDZE 5574 ft and Rwy 19 TDZE 5510 ft )
b. Runway length 6 500 ft
c. Mean Summer Temperature 25 to 35 degrees Celsius
d. Mean Summer Pressure 1025 to 1035 Hpa
4. Aircraft Empty Weight ( Typical ), Max Zero Fuel Weight , Max Take Off Weight , Max Landing Weight and Max Ramp Weight ?
5. Max Payload vs Performance Limitations ?
6. What are the TBO times for the engines and Inspection Cycles for the Aircraft ?
Thanking you in advance
Fred Smith did this very same exercise over thirty years ago and came to the conclusion that bigger aircraft would pay better...and he was right...they DO.
Good luck.:ok: :suspect:
Aslak
16th Nov 2004, 10:47
Please, check your PM
Cheers!
hotelmode
17th Nov 2004, 07:12
Thanks Aslak
Thank you very much for the mail.
If you can assist I would appreciate.I am stuck between a rock and a hard place as far as getting the performance gen , all the sites I have visited only give brochure info which are utterly useless .
The Falcons I have looked at all have the GE CF700-2D-2 engines
Have a good one
Cheers
Flight Refuelling Aviation at Bournemouth - UK operate some of these. They may be able to help with some of the numbers. Tel +44 1202 409013
I suspect that you'll be weight limited on take-off though. If I recall correctly, FRA's Falcons were certficated to a higher MTOW than the standard fit.
MTOW - 30 000lbs
MLW - 27320lbs
MZFW - 22000lbs
Good luck
windycorner
21st Nov 2004, 16:18
:ok: Seems like a good one to chase up on .........
Windycorner
Ah...well yes, hotelmode, the CF700 is what they were originally certified with.
However, some have been re-engined with TFE731's, but I don't think any freighters were....standing by to be corrected, of course.
:E
meatball
22nd Nov 2004, 15:30
I was lucky enough to fly the cargo version Falcon 20, mostly all ex-FedEx aircraft, hauling cargo all over Europe, USA, Mexico, Canada and the Caribbean. Here are some of my notes:
Max T/off & Ldgs 10000feet
Max Runway Slope +/- 2 degrees
Max Tailwind 10 kts
Crosswind 25 kts
Max Ceiling 42000 feet
Max T/O 28660 lbs
Taxi 28660 lbs
Ldg Wt 27320 lbs
ZFW 22000 lbs
Vmo/Mmo 350Kias M .85
Fuel capacity 2x470 (feeders)& 2x2089 (mains)
Total Fuel 5006 lbs
and many many more details if anyone interested
;) ;)
I dont know of any re-engined freighters. The company I flew for
were considering Garrets back in 1994 but were too costly compared to sticking with the CF 700 2Dīs. I never was able to get up to FL 420, honestly never tried past 390 as the engines were fairly clapped out. The Coast Guard flew the retro-fits, anyone remember the picture? Any ex or current Falcon pilots out there ?;)
ehwatezedoing
23rd Nov 2004, 22:41
Other stuff to look at if needed.
http://www.knighthawk.ca/Home/
They are using 3 Falcon 20 as freighters
hotelmode
24th Nov 2004, 07:56
A big thank you to 411A , csd , windycorner ,meatball and ehwatezedoing .
Have followed up on your leads and found a great deal of gen I was looking for.
meatball please check your PM
Hope to meet up for a cold one some day
Cheers !