View Full Version : Is JED ok for nightstops? (Safety question)
RoyHudd
7th Nov 2004, 09:07
Pre-Hajj, we are all concerned about security issues in Saudi Arabia. This topic always seems to be shunted off into pprune backwaters, but IS of importance to airline employees, who are mainly flight deck in this case. Reasoned and balanced responses please.
Angel`s Playmate
7th Nov 2004, 10:14
I am doing the Hadj as well again this year, but the company decided to to an intermediate stop somewhere short of JED to change crew. Either Athens, Rhodes, Sharm-El Sheik or Hurghada.
The other gang is just doing the shuttle then to JED and than back to either of them.
Personally I think chances being robbed, raped, shot at wso in any major city in the US, South America or in Europe is even higher, than just being at that time, at that place, where a bomb is just blasting off !
Happy ldgs
Angel
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146881&perpage=15&pagenumber=3
Jeddah has certainly changed in the last year, most hotels have increased their security levels. Compounds housing expats are usually surrounded by concrete bollards and at least in our case armed military hummers.
I'm more concerned about getting killed in a driving accident than a terrorist act.
On a lighter note, the weather is excellent :)
Mutt.
crazy_max
9th Nov 2004, 16:42
Mutt,
Totally agree with you. Better chances of dying in a car accident, especially in JED.
Take care,
Engineer
9th Nov 2004, 17:09
Sorry have to disagree with Mutt the bollards are ****1ng useless but there look good.
If you are worried about coming dont come simple as that If you need the money then come but you dont have to leave the hotel when you get there
In my opinion KSA should be renamed after a certain Indian industry Bollardwood :D
Anyway Mutt when u all going to invite us for a drink out there in JED :{ Ramadan Kareem or should I say Happy Eid :{
Shorty Final
9th Nov 2004, 17:35
with the inherent instability of the regime and the local paranoia about foreigners,JED or anywhere in the Kingdom not a good place unless you gotta go.
Though that can be sadly said for most of the ME these days. Making the world safe fro democracy and all that.Not quite yet.
when u all going to invite us for a drink out there in JED
The door is always open! Not much point living here if one cant have some fun :)
Send me a PM next time you are in town.
PS, As for the bollards, I have a personal opinion that this whole campaign was started by the concrete manufacturers :)
Mutt.
ironbutt57
9th Nov 2004, 18:39
Yeah..and what family poured most of the concrete in KSA?:confused:
Engineer
10th Nov 2004, 01:34
Gentleman/Ladies you made me smile PMs will be on the way keep it up better then sitting in the hotel with PIA crews
As for the bollards can only say " Boll***s to you as well :ok:
Will be in the Kingdom in the next few days for my sins
PIA747
10th Nov 2004, 06:31
Engineer,
See you soon in the crew room.
If you're there for more than a few weeks, I'd advise to do a shopping run and get the brewing started....
You might find the last few weeks drag by otherwise....:E
It's a bit of a ghost town when compared to previous eras...
JEDDAH, 10 November 2004 — Saudi security forces clashed with four suspected terrorists in the Al-Jamia district early yesterday morning. One terrorist was killed, and three were captured during the two-hour long siege. One of the three was a foreign national, the Interior Ministry said.
Another newspaper report states that they were planning to attack a residential compound in North Obhur.
Mutt
Engineer
10th Nov 2004, 13:11
PIA747
236 on my way :D
newscaster
10th Nov 2004, 13:36
Jeddah airport is being modernised finally.
http://www.pca.gov.sa/KAIA/expansion/expansion.php?showgallery=yes
Semaphore Sam
10th Nov 2004, 21:25
Just got done driving Sary St. & Medina Road...dangerous & crazy. Forget terrorists, the drivers still frighten me. Night-stops are only ok if road travel is avoided...worse than Teheran now.
As for Jed Airport modernization, they finally got rid of the Dulles-esque pax busses, but it's still 1965 there, even after having been open 23 years. Riyadh Airport much better (but then, terrorists there are more common; nightstops there may be much more problematical...can't win!).
Read the same thing Mutt .
www.arabnews.com , was posted on the 11th.
It stated the attacks were to coincide with the Eid fireworks celebration, Saturday or Sunday.
I would imagine it takes more than 4 to attack a compond.
Where are the rest of them?
Think I will be staying in tonight.
Taildragger
15th Nov 2004, 22:45
My suggestion is to fill the empty Whisky bottles with Gasoline, and await the storming hordes.
The initial part of building the Berm, is the fun part.
:= :D
Excellent Idea Taildragger, but unfortunately one of the losers in the war on terror are the whiskey suppliers, the stuff is getting kinda expensive these days, cicra $300 per litre....
Better idea would be to use old grape juice bottles for the gasoline and keep the whiskey around for internal consumption when the hordes arrive..... :):)
Mutt.
Delsey Drifter
17th Nov 2004, 04:32
Hey Earl, you can come out from under your bed now. You're one frightened little puppy. You wrote on July 6, '04: Its a personal choice.
Everyone of us knows what our comfort and security level is and when that level has been reached.
Once there its time to go.
Right now it seems that no where is safe for our families.
Here in Jeddah things are only at a elevated level of concern.
Seems to me your time has come - is it worth looking over your shoulder all the time?