View Full Version : British European decides against RJX

Raw Data
23rd Jan 2002, 23:56
before the usual mis-informed rumours start, here is the latest (edited) staff announcement:


. .British European cancels RJX plan

Following the decision to close the RJX programme, as announced on 27th November 2001 BAE SYSTEMS Aircraft Services Group has held a series of discussions with British European, one of its two launch customers.

In the absence of any new orders for the RJX since March 2001 and given the fact that the aircraft is no longer being offered directly to the market, British European was reluctant to accept the risks associated with an “orphan” fleet. These risks are principally associated with the lack of fleet commonality, the cost for in service support and the prospects for the eventual remarketing of the aircraft.

“Whilst we are sorry that the RJX delivery programme has now been cancelled, we are satisfied that this was the only realistic option facing British European. The RJX would have given us a common jet fleet (in line with our declared strategy) however, our existing 146 fleet is delivering exceptionally high standards of reliability and comfort to our customers and will continue to do so for many years to come” said Jim French, Managing Director.”

“The relationship between British European and BAE SYSTEMS is a long standing relationship and I have every confidence that both organisations will continue to work together to ensure that the 146 fleet will continue to provide an excellent standard for service to our customers. “

“Clearly, the industry is still going through a period of significant uncertainty and change and the cancellation of this order will provide us with the opportunity to re-evaluate our fleet plans for the future and to ensure that our business remains highly competitive in today’s marketplace. “

British European has been a BAE SYSTEMS customer since 1994. The airline currently flies 17 BAe 146 jets (six –300 Series, eight –200s and three –100s.) In addition, British European Aviation Services at Exeter, UK, undertakes major checks and structural repairs on the 146 and Avro RJ Series for the airline and third party operators.

. .Jim French. .23rd January 2002

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...so there you go.

Important to note that no decisions have been made yet about future fleet plans, so, no, we aren't getting 717s, nor Jungle Jets, or more CRJ bizjet derivatives. Neither are we going all-Q400.

OK, let the gossip commence... :) :) <img src="wink.gif" border="0">

24th Jan 2002, 00:11
...Can't wait to hear BE gossips :) :) :) . .717? <img src="confused.gif" border="0"> thought u were getting 707 <img src="tongue.gif" border="0"> . .Happy Landings <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

Fred Elliot
24th Jan 2002, 00:50

I reply only to point out that the Kiwi is a rather small, rotund, flightless little creature with an oddly shaped beak.


<img src="tongue.gif" border="0">

24th Jan 2002, 00:52
Well if they do not want an "orphan" fleet, I would have thought the 717 was a dodgy prospect as well!!

<a href="http://www.heraldnet.com/Stories/01/11/6/14658157.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.heraldnet.com/Stories/01/11/6/14658157.cfm</a>

Raw Data
24th Jan 2002, 02:39
Thank you for your completely pointless reply Fred, I shall give it the consideration it so richly deserves!! <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0"> <img src="rolleyes.gif" border="0">

24th Jan 2002, 02:57
Now now chaps lets not get personal. As an ex JEA/BE person I don't like to see you boys bickering amongst yourselves. When I was there if you had an issue it was sorted out behind the back of the portacabin at BHD, none of this namby pamby anonymous internet stuff. Let me tell you, flying another six sectors with two black eyes wasn't easy, if you lost.

24th Jan 2002, 03:50
Just curious but if they change to a different aircraft is this likely to cause problems at GCI?

24th Jan 2002, 03:57
Absoloutely not. I gather there are no performance problems whatsoevever at Guersney with the HS 748!!!!

24th Jan 2002, 18:37
perseus - as long as you have water meths...!!

TA :)

24th Jan 2002, 20:56
what's happening to the RJX airframes?

24th Jan 2002, 21:22
Aerospace intend to use them as BAE corporate aeroplanes - so embarrasing!

n.b. - one airframe to be flown to Portmoak,Fife for Raw Datas new air museum.

Raw Data
25th Jan 2002, 03:34
Air Museum? I thought I was going to be using it as a garden shed... :) :) :)

Greg Baddeley
25th Jan 2002, 17:12
Wrong shape mate! You want a Shorts 360 for one of them!