Apron congestion

[Established !]

Wouldn't starting one or two prio to push reduce congestion at the biggie airports? Comments? ATCOs.

[Ausatco]

Depends on the tugs/tractors or whatever you call them at your location.

Many pushbacks require a tow forward to a disconnect point. Many tugs cannot control a tow forward with even idle thrust on some aircraft types - they can push back against it, but they can't tow forward with it without excessive risk of over-run.

AA

[chiglet]

At EGCC/MAN start is ALWAYS given prior to push. That the "tug release point" on certain stands precudes multi/synchro push backs is besides the point :D
we aim to please, it keeps the cleaners happy

[Bagheera]

At EGPH the apron road runs behind the aircraft, therefore all vehicles come to a stop when they see the anti-collisions from an aircraft starting. This can then block the pushback of the aircraft that prevented your push in the first place!

[Rad1]

There are all manner of reasons that start can't be given on some stands. In one case that i recall, the airport authority introduced a rule that aircraft had to be taken off stand and tugged to the end of the pier before starting because (when the wind was blowing in certain directions) exhaust fumes sometimes got into offices. Rumour had it that if the windows were closed as they were supposed to be in order for the air conditioning to work, that there was no problem but people in the offices often opened the windows for some reason. The result - tremendous inconvenience for crews, groundstaff and ATC and a distinct reduction in efficiency!

[Scott Voigt]

That wouldn't go over well here <G>. At DFW they do a LOT of powered push backs so that they don't have to have so many tugs...

regards

[Mark_WI]

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[eyeinthesky]

er... wrong thread, I think!