NEWCASTLE

[jabird]

Mike,

I'm sure BE might do well on NCL to BHX, as I have heard that T3 have reliability issues on this route, and some pax loads which could, well, fit in a car!

Looking at the success EZ have shown on their BRS to NCL, and the level of competition on BHX to EDI, with more realistic pricing, BE should be able to sustain 2 or 3 daily rotations, especially if they were to offer onward connections, which they were previously trying to suggest people might want to do through their EXT to CDG route!

It would certainly be more viable than the run they used to do from BHX to EXT.

[Britannia]

The Flight time's and numbers for the BMI summer flight;

Kefalonia - Newcastle DEPT 12:55 ARRI 14:45 BD7674

Newcastle - Kefalonia DEPT 15:45 ARRI 21:25 BD7673

Regards

Chris

[HH6702]

Is excel still doing there sunday flight also?

New route this winter

Newcastle to Agadir on sundays

leaves newcastle 12.15
returns newcastle 21.35

dont know airline but i think it could be MYTRAVEL....?

[Jamesair]

The CAA statistics for January show that SAS carried 989 pax on its first month on the Copenhagen route without Easyjet. Would probably do better with double daily....morning and evening. At the moment it operates morning only

[CentreFix25]

Anybody know why we had a inbound EZY from Valencia today?

[Britannia]

The inbound BCN was cancelled so it must have diverted to VLC for some reason on the outbound.

Chris

[captainben]

Apparentley, a TU154 landed earlier today at BCN on the taxiway parallel to the runway, maybe this could have something to do with it?:confused:

[Britannia]

Kuwait Airways Flight 5105 due in around 3pm today.

Chris

[Maude Charlee]

BCN closed due to snow (yes, snow!). VLC used as a diversion rather than cancel the flight

[GrahamK]

The Kuwait flight a 777 again I take it, picking up cash and going again?

[PapaRomeo]

As of yesterday the 737-300 back on the KL957/958 until july/august. They also used a Martinair A320 on the 961/962 today due to unservicabillities in the Fokker fleet!

[Topjet]

MONDAY
XLA4010/1 NCL 0430 0755 CFU 1850 2220 NCL B738
XLA444/5V NCL 0600 1025 DLM 1125 1555 NCL B734
XLA4158/9 NCL 0900 1310 FNC 1410 1825 NCL B734
XLA402/3V NCL 1730 2010 MAH 2110 2350 NCL B734

TUESDAY
XLA414/5V NCL 0500 0740 PMI 0840 1120 NCL B738
XLA4210/1 NCL 0535 1000 JTR 1100 1530 NCL B734
XLA4178/9 NCL 0900 1355 TFS 1455 1920 NCL B736
XLA4022/3 NCL 1250 1705 CHQ 1805 2235 NCL B738

WEDNESDAY
XLA4148/9 NCL 0600 1050 PFO 1150 1655 NCL B738
XLA4030/1 NCL 0600 1040 RHO 1140 1620 NCL B734
XLA4042/3 NCL 0900 1335 KGS 1435 1925 NCL B734

THURSDAY
XLA4078/9 NCL 0800 1035 KGS 1135 1625 NCL B734
XLA4046/7 NCL 0700 1120 ACE 1220 1630 NCL B738
XLA4040/1 NCL 0710 1100 SKG 1200 1545 NCL B734
XLA646/7 NCL 1010 1925 SFB 2125 0540 NCL B763
XA404/5V NCL1715 2000 ALC 2100 2355 NCL B734
XLA424/5V NCL 1740 2040 AGP 2140 0045 NCL B738

FRIDAY
XLA434/5V NCL 0600 1035 TFS 1135 1600 NCL B738
XLA4266/7 NCL 0600 1025 DLM 1125 1555 NCL B734
XLA4150/1 NCL 0800 1155 JSI/VOL 1410 1800 NCL B734
XLA656/7 NCL 0830 1745 POP 2145 0614 NCL B763
XLA4174/5 NCL 1715 2000 IBZ 2100 2255 B734
XLA4050/1 NCL 1745 2000 HER 2300 0325 NCL B738
XLA4026/7 NCL 1930 2310 CFU 0010 0405 NCL B734

SATURDAY
XLA428/9V NCL 0430 0720 ALC 0820 1110 NCL B734
XLA406/7V NCL 0500 0805 AGP 0905 1215 NCL B738
XLA4166/7 NCL 0625 0850 VRN 1815 2050 NCL B734 TBA
XLA57P NCL 0715 0825 LGW
XLA4202/3 NCL 1245 1530 PMI 1630 1925 NCL B734
XLA4064/5 NCL 1330 1615 PMI 1715 2010 NCL B738
XLA4198/9 NCL 2110 0145 RHO 0235 0725 NCL B734
XLA4068/9 NCL 2130 0145 KGS 0245 0715 NCL B738

SUNDAY
XLA4154/5 NCL 0300 0645 ZTH 0745 1135 NCL B734
XLA4032/3 NCL 1000 1350 EFL 1450 1840 NCL B734
XLA4070/1 NCL 1015 1505 LCA 1605 2115 NCL B738
XLA3136/7 NCL 1305 1715 KLX 1815 2235 NCL B734

Summers looking fun!!

[CentreFix25]

Changed already! Typical...

XLA4202 Saturday to Palma now departs 05.20 arrives back 12.05.

[Britannia]

When is the Kuwait Airways going out?

Chris

[Topjet]

The Kuwaiti should be departing Tomorrow morning, im sure it was around 9am, though i could be wrong. Also, it should be a Airbus A300( Havn't seen it yet though!)

Centre Fix25 : Regarding the XLA, I dont know where you get the change from mate, but i was under the impression the timetable i was given was the final draft! I shall double check though somepoint on Thursday.

Topjet

[Maude Charlee]

Yes, the Kuwaiti is an A300 not a 777, and it should indeed have gone today.

[Kev 1]

Just noticed that on Kosmar and XL.com some of the Excel flights for NCL are now showing SCY flight numbers, are Scandic returning with their Finnair 757s again?

Cheers

Kev

[10 DME ARC]

Yes
looks like XLA will be 2 x B734 & 1 x B752(SCY)!
:)

[starship]

"This week" the plan seems to be :

Excel Airways using 2 734's from NCL this summer (Islandsflug) and Air Scandic will be operating the whole of the planned 738 program ex Newcastle, using a 752. Basically going back to the arrangement SCY had before Excel opened the base, operating the program for Libra/Kosmar/XLA group companies.

In addition, SCY will operate their Wednesday SFB for Prime, in July and August.

Busy summer for SCY with (planned) : 2 757 and an MD83 in MAN, 2 MD83 in EMA and 1 MD83 in STN... in addition to this late addition to their work.

Good one guys.

[HH6702]

Here it goes

Monday

SCY6911/4 NCL-CFU leaves around 6am returns 2300.

anybody got anymore?

[GrahamK]

Friday Tenerife, Saturday Malaga, Palma also.

Are Excel planning on flying to Milan (Linate and Malpensa) from NCL as they are both down as destinations from NCL on the website, although no more details are given

[HH6702]

Here it goes full timetable

Monday CFU 0530-2320 SCY6911/4
Tuesday TFS 1000-2020 SCY6921/2
Wednesday ?? SFB??
Thursday ACE 0800-1730 SCY6941/2
Friday TFS 0700-1700 SCY6951/2
HER 1930-0425 SCY6953/4
Saturday AGP 0600-1315 SCY6961/2
PMI 1430-2110 SCY6963/4
KGS 2230-0815 SCY6965/6
Sunday LCA 1015-2115 SCY6970/1


Excel just down to 2 b734 or 1 b738 and b734?

[starship]

Wednesday SCY Flight to Orlando (SFB)

SFB (WED)10:30-05:30 (THU) SCY 7731/7732 *

Return Thu, Ops 27/7 - 24/8.

[crewboi83]

Heard from a mate of mine that a new entrant cabin crew course has been cancelled at NCL by XLA... looks like only 2x 737-400's with the odd 738 popping in over the summer to cover the 734's maint. anyone got any more on that? I know SCY now have a summer base again at NCL, this could be due to the fact XLA are having problems sourcing extra 737-800.... has heard that SAA who usually let them 1x 738 cant provide it this summer, all rumours up to now but anyone care to comment?
and anyone know exactly how many a/c XLA now have at NCL?

[CentreFix25]

Looks to me like 2 x 737-400(Islandsflug) and 1 x 757(Scandic/Finnair) all flying on behalf of Excel and the holiday companys they are contracted to fly for, saving Excel the cost of opening up a seasonal base. I expect any of the 3 to disappear for a day or two, and/or have some long 'w's keeping them away most of the day.

[crewboi83]

Excel are opening the base...They have 2 Islandflug 734's leased to us in all excel interior and exterior colours etc.... Excel Crew and Islandflug flight deck.... same in BRS only 1 a/c tho.... we had problems gettin hands on a 737-800 that we usually lease from SAA so we had to get good old Scandic back in (not sure what a/c they using) to do some routes for XLA

[GrahamK]

I see tomorrow morning's BA1321 to Heathrow has got a 6 hour delay due to "operational reasons". Any idea what this is about? Lack of crew, lack of aircraft? Lack of Newcastle Broon Ale? :\

[crewboi83]

No doubt it will be crew rest or something, if the inbound a/c got in on time (the BA1338 last night) then it will prob be crew hours. They should just canx it... who will want to travel 6hrs late? all the ppl with connections will be rebooked on the 1325/1327 no doubt, and the ppl mainly going to london for meetings etc will miss um all... i bet when it goes there is only a hand full of ppl on it

[PapaRomeo]

Normally there is a crew change on the 1332/1333 and the flight crew getting off the 1332 would operate the 1321 the next morning. On this occasion the flight crew never made it in on the 1332 as they went tech somewhere on a previous sector so the flight crew operating the 1338 had to operate the flight the next morning but due to minium rest hours, couldn't operate until 1205. The flight eventually left with 6 passengers on board!

[GrahamK]

6 passengers on an A319? Easy job for the FA's then ;)
I take it most of the pax booked on the flight went on the mid morning flight?

[HH6702]

Been speaking to a few people from easyland...

Expect to hear details of the next 3 routes very soon.

Bilbao
Faro
Ibiza

[aeulad]

Bilbao is a strange choice. Would have thought there was more market for Valencia, Almeria or Madrid. BIO did'nt work from Bristol.

Regards

Mike

[GrahamK]

What was up with the based MYT A320 on Sunday? G-OMYT (A330 new full c/s) came in to operate the FAO

[crewboi83]

I hope it wasnt G-FHAJ cos last week they delayed the NCL-ALC about 4-5 hrs then deicded to bus the passengers to Manchester as the A320 has a pressurisation problem

[GrahamK]

Think it might have been G-SUEW? Whatever it was, the FAO pax certainly got a nice upgrade :ok:

[MerchantVenturer]

Bilbao is a strange choice. Would have thought there was more market for Valencia, Almeria or Madrid. BIO did'nt work from Bristol.
Mike,

I'm not so sure it didn't work for BRS and thus it might work for NCL, given that BRS and NCL seem to carry about the same easyJet loads, broadly speaking, on comparable routes.

I was very surprised to see BRS-BIO go in the end and can only think that the loads themselves were not the cause - I realise yields are the important thing.

The last four months (July-Oct 2004) of the BRS-BIO route (one rotation per day) produced 7816, 8194, 7059 and 6878 pax per month respectively, or from 80% to 90% of the 737's capacity, and the last figure was for October when the route was being run down.

In fact, some of the new routes from BRS, incl MAD and VLC, are producing loads less good than this, although it is of course comparing new routes in winter with one that had rapidly established itself (in bald load figures anyway) in the summer/autumn.

So, I would have thought that BIO could not be ruled out altogether from NCL.

[JKP505]

Bilbao would probably work out of NCL, more so than it would from BRS. I believe that there is a fairly large ex-pat population of 'ethnic mackems'(!) in the basque regions, given a large number of miners that relocated years and years ago.

Athletic Bilbao got their stripes from Sunderland AFC, hence the Anglicized name of the team. Whether these miners returned home, I don't know. I assume that many stayed, and therefore a market could be made for NCL-BIO

[Topjet]

The 330 was brought in to cover the delayed 827/8 flight to Faro as the aircraft due to operate was still stuck in Alicante Tech. (SUEW) Eventually came in Tea time sunday.

The previous week a 330 was brought in and operated to ALC with MME pax aswell as NCL pax, no bussing to manch, due FHAJ being tech. Bit of a bad week for mytravel. :(

[BahrainLad]

IIRC there's a significant Spanish student population in the North East.

[GrahamK]

Loads of Greek Students also.
I see the Kuwaitis are back in for some more money today also ;)

[transwede]

A few years ago there was talk of a scheduled service, I think about 3 times a week to ATH. operator that was investigating the route has since gone bust but surely it would make sense for easyjet or even Aegean to start up?

Maybe BIO with easy will work? Faro will and IBZ will be during the summer. Judging by other discussions on this forum NCL is to gain alot of new holiday charter routes, which would not usually be associated with a regional airport. For the record Thomas Cook, TUI and MyTravel are supposedly selling holidays to the following for Summer 06:

AOK/GPS/JMK/SMI/SUF/LIS/PDL/SPC/TFN/XRY/NCE/AGA/RMI

Whats happened to the rumoured FlyBE expansion?

With more and more flights NCL pax numbers are going to rocket and the charter terminal is going to be a bursting point throughout the summer!

[HH6702]

Ive been watching the other thread on this about the new charter routes.

There are a total of 10 new routes which would mean an extra aircraft for 2006..... ( where will they park it?) thats without first choice and there new routes together with easyjet and flybe.

ive asked jpk505 to list times and days of operation as this could all be just rumors.... hopefully not

[Jamesair]

Taken from another thread but good news for this one.

TTG 18 March. Czech Airlines are looking at launching flights from Prague to Newcastle and Bristol.


Would be competition for Easyjet.

[GrahamK]

There are a total of 10 new routes which would mean an extra aircraft for 2006.....

Not neccessarily, some of those could be operated by UK airlines on "w" flights, or foreign airlines. For example, the Azores flight could be done by someone like SATA Air Azores etc.

[nclairportfan]

It's been very quiet on the scheduled new route announcement side since before christmas.

I hope the CSA service comes to fruition and some more EZY routes are much needed at NCL!!

On a more serious note will NCL cope in the summer. It's busy now; especially in the morning rush! Do they need more gates and stands - rather quickly!

[GrahamK]

Watch for a possible AA service to JFK

[CentreFix25]

Love to see it, thought Continental would have been favourites though. And i'm not gonna hold my breath.

On a more serious note will NCL cope in the summer. It's busy now; especially in the morning rush! Do they need more gates and stands - rather quickly!

Parking not going to be a problem, think the biggest problems will be in the terminal - going to get awfully crowded at times.

[GrahamK]

I know airliners.net isnt the best of sources ;) But a member on there has stated that there is more chance of an AA NYC flight than CO NYC flight, and this was someone that predicted the Cimber Air/SAS flight to CPH a year ago, and he usually speaks the truth. Uses the name Billy.

And anyway,is it a 757 or MD83 that SCY are basing then?

[CentreFix25]

Graham, I hope the AA rumour turns out to be a good one, nobody would be happier than me.
The SCY i'm led to believe is a Finnair 757.

[HH6702]

Mytravel.com

Flights to adagir are now bookable

sunday flights MYT831/2

Leaves ncl at 15:45 and returns 00:40

[Jamesair]

Air France is upgrading the 3 x daily Paris (CDG) route, with a weekend exception to CR7 aircraft operated by Brit Air.

[GrahamK]

easyJet are adding an additional flight to Bristol on the Sunday when Newcastle play Man Utd in Cardiff. Looks like it will be on an A319

[MerchantVenturer]

Graham

So is Air Wales, vide CWL official website.

One rotation in the morning and the other in the evening.

The airport is advertising it not only for football fans but also for people from South Wales to have a day out in the Northeast.

Bit of an expenside day out though with fares starting at £134.50 one way.

What makes you think the BRS flight will be a 319?

BRS sees a daily 319 on the SXF flight but that of course is a Berlin-based a/c.

[GrahamK]

What makes you think the BRS flight will be a 319?

The Newcastle Airport website states that easyJet will be providing an extra 156 seats ;) We all know of course that the 737s have 149 seats, and 319s 156 ;)

Also, BY (1X757,1X767), TCX(1X757), EAF(1X737) taking fans down to Cardiff

[a bristolian]

Think you'll find theres more - 1 FC A320 and some German airline with a A321 that I know.

[GrahamK]

Hadnt heard of those one's. I suppose the German A321 is Aero Flight?

[Britannia]

Also, BY (1X757,1X767), TCX(1X757), EAF(1X737) taking fans down to Cardiff

How do you know it's a BY 767?

Chris

[10 DME ARC]

Last we heard was;

TCX B752
MON A320
MON A306
EZY A319
ARF A321 x 2
AMM B752
AMM A320 x 2
BAL B762
BAL B752
EAF B732
SCY MD83

:)

p.s. Air Wales extra AT42 poss as well.....
Should have read MON A306!

[Britannia]

What airline is A306?

[GrahamK]

Britannia - Monarch A300B4-600R ;)

Have you seen how much Air Wales are charging? £134 one way :suspect:

[crewboi83]

RE the EAF 732 flight...
Anyone got details on it, im crew for EAF and ive tried to get myself on it as im from NCL and fancy good old geordie passengers for a change.... only 1 problem, its not in our flying programme for april! anyone know whats going on with it? where did the info come from? I wouldnt b suprised if it appears in our flying programme though lol this is EAC its very last minute

[Britannia]

Anybody know of any flights for the England V Azerbaijan match on Wednesday?

Chris

[captainben]

According to an article in the Newcastle Chronicle, there will be a second weekly flight next winter to Sharm El Sheik. Anyone got any information on the matter?:confused:

[johnwalton]

Yeah, it seems as though there will be a BY and a TCX flight this Winter to SSH.

The BY flight is on Thursdays:
NCL 0950 - 1710 SSH
SSH 1810 - 2205 NCL

and the TCX flight is on Sundays:
NCL 0900 - 1630 SSH
SSH 1730 - 2130 NCL

[Travel Agent]

New route for Summer 2006 with Kosmar Holidays NCL - KVA, on sale now. KVA = Kavala (Greece, for holidays on island of Thassos). Flights op by XLA

[johnwalton]

Kavala is going to be a Wednesday flight, currently billed as

NCL 0700/1350 KVA XLA4505
KVA 1450/1650 NCL XLA4506

[10 DME ARC]

Sorry to go back a bit but I have just been quoted £160 return with Air Wales for the footy on the 17th!
No £143 one way in sight!

As any one who know's me will know, I will NOT be going but.........
:)

[captainben]

There'll probably be some charter flights on Tuesday and Wednesday for Azerbaijan fans, the team arrives today on a Tupolev TU-154 of Imair? Anyone ever heard of them?

[Jamesair]

I read on another forum that a VLM London City flight appeared on the Airport departure board for this morning. It was then removed.

Looks like VLM London City services are in the system, although not due to operate yet.

[HH6702]

Kosmar 2006

I know this is not a new route but looks like that excel are spilting the fridays flight to skiathos/Volos


NCL-VOLOS XLA6501/2 06:00 16:45
NCL-SKIATHOS XLA4150/1 09:00 19:00


KVA FLIGHT IS ALSO THURSDAY NOT WEDNESDAYS AS STATED BEFORE

thanks

[Britannia]

Hi all,

Does anyone know or can find out what time 4K-85732 is leaving Newcastle?

Thanks,

Chris

[Devonair]

Return flights still available NCL - EXT, for FA cup weekend, with Flybe Saturday to Monday for GBP 74 incl. taxes. EXT airport is next to the motorway so I'd say you'd be in Cardiff in 2 hours on a good run.

[jabird]

Devonair,

Would it really be worthwhile to fly down to EXT on a single daily service, and then drive back up to Cardiff?

I know EZ are adding an extra rotation too - some seats going for over £100 one way, but afaik no decent link from BRS to Cardiff - bus to city centre, then Wessex rail bus to Cardiff, or change at TM & Parkway? Even getting a taxi to Parkway, then train seems like a lot of hassle.

Would have thought this would be one journey still much better by train all the way. Air Wales would be fine in theory, but no ops on Saturday afaik, and what if that morning flight is down on the Sunday is delayed?

[Devonair]

It's an option. Thought GBP 74 return was reasonable. Obviously its up to individuals to decide on travel arrangements, just thought I'd mention it because the fare is quite good. Not bad for people with relatives in Devon or Somerset either.

[MerchantVenturer]

jabird

To get from Bristol Airport to the centre of Cardiff would entail taking the airport coach (runs every twenty minutes) to Temple Meads Railway Station then catching a train (no change at Parkway) which run frequently between Bristol and Cardiff through the Severn Tunnel.

However, for a daytrip to the match I would only do this as a last resort, preferring a direct flight to Cardiff if I could get one.

Where Bristol as a city does win out since the Millennium has been used for major club matches is in attracting fans who can't find accommodation in Cardiff to stay for a weekend. Several thousand usually stay in and around Bristol but this also has its downside because they have been the cause of serious public disorder in the past in the city central areas.

I suspect the extra easy NCL-BRS rotation will do well because this extremely busy route often sells out on some rotations around weekends.

[GrahamK]

Goind down to BRS on the early morning flight from NCL and coming back on the last flight of the day, will cost you a mere £226 on easyJet ;)

[MerchantVenturer]

Graham

And if you look at the prices for NCL-BRS on the Saturday and BRS-NCL on the Monday they are all between £80 and £100 one way (apart from the third rotation of the day to NCL on the Monday which is 'only' around £60) which bears out my suggestion that many football fans spend the weekend in the Bristol area.

easyJet seem to think so too because of these high fares, although they are often much higher anyway running into and out of weekends than the £25.98 return, including taxes, that I always pay in midweek when I book early.

Also contrast the NCL-BRS fares on the Saturday with those of BRS TO NCL that day when one of the flights can be had for £9.50 including taxes.

I think easy will make a nice big profit that weekend between the Northeast and Southwest, even with the giveaway on the northbound on Saturday evening.

[CentreFix25]

Air Wales adding two extra flights.

[Jamesair]

A little more news on the Easyjet a/c No. 7.

quote from John Parkin, Chief Executive
"There will be another aircraft to come from Easyjet. We do not know where that will go yet but will know by the end of September. They only had one aircraft here two years ago and this will be their seventh"

[GrahamK]

Looks like there's a Sun Air flight in from Billund today and a Star Airlines flight out to CDG as well.
Anyone know the reasons for their visit?

[Maude Charlee]

GrahamK

Newcastle Falcons vs Stade Francais.

HH6702

Just to pick up on an earlier point, I don't think Excel will be running separate flights to Skiathos and Volos. When Islandsflug were running the route last year, the pax numbers to Volos would barely fill a J41 let alone a 738. Expect the flights will be combined into one regardless of what the travel agent/brochure might be suggesting. Just hope it all goes a little more smoothly than last summer - what a farce that was with HH.

[Jamesair]

NEW YORK

Confirmation today that NCL are talking to two US airlines about a link between NY and NCL. Newark and Kennedy are mentioned.

[johnwalton]

Article here (http://icnewcastle.icnetwork.co.uk/eveningchronicle/eveningchronicle/tm_objectid=15357088&method=full&siteid=50081&headline=just-fly-me-to-new-york-name_page.html).

[skyman771]

Probably an April Fool !

[10 DME ARC]

No its not.................
:)

[coasting]

Can't see it happening really. Lots of talk with regionals and US carriers, but they rarely come to fruition. Bristol were very lucky.

[CentreFix25]

Bristol were very lucky.

I don't think luck played any part in Bristol gaining their COA service, just good marketing and a demand for the service.

Can't see it happening really.

Think this statement will come back and haunt you in 12-18 months time.

[MerchantVenturer]

BRS does have an excellent management and marketing team, ironically to some extent trained by the John Parkin regime when it ran Bristol Airport.

They also got the route in the face of intense competition from neighbouring CWL.

Looking around the UK regional airports, surely NCL must be odds-on favourites to be the next airport for a New York area connection.

[Jamesair]

I agree, with over 5 million pax this year, it puts the airport in a new league and gives the Management a realistic chance of securing new airlines and new routes.

[Piltdown Man]

Just a simple question: When will somebody build enough runway to operate long haul flights from NCL? Spending money on building shops only means you can make more on shop rents but it doesn't allow an operator to haul more weight off the ground. When will the Muppets who run airports realise that their customers are the airlines, not the pasengers?

[10 DME ARC]

I think a quote from JP a few days ago hit the nail on the head "the airport has reached a critical mass that could attract a transatlantic service"
That's not necessarily the 2 million + low cost pax's but the hundred of thousand pax's that interline via LHR/AMS/CDG etc.
Not to mention the large amount of pax's who drive to MAN/EDI/GLA!
:)

[HH6702]

Hi

i knew about co starting services at brs last may when i worked at ncl. ncl will get newark serivce by spring 2006

[Piltdown Man]

I think that the medication that some are taking maybe too strong. It's not the number of people at an airport which determines how far aircraft fly, but the amount of runway available for aircraft to use. With shade over 2,300 metres, NCL IS NOT LONG ENOUGH! That's why people HAVE to drive to EDI/GLA/MAN. If the £10 million that was recently spend on shops was invested in a longer runway, then maybe services would already be operating to these more distant places. Another 300 to 400 meteres needs to be added to the runway and that must be added to the eastern end (otherwise there will be no gain). And if Darlington Municipal Aerodrome adds their's first then maybe people will have to drive to MME to go long haul!

New logos, PR, glossy brochures, shops, swish parking and a few bars does nothing for aircraft performance.

[GrahamK]

With shade over 2,300 metres, NCL IS NOT LONG ENOUGH! That's why people HAVE to drive to EDI/GLA/MAN.

Those A330s and 767s that fly to Florida nonstop must be magic a/c then ;)

[Piltdown Man]

Graham, I don't think you fly aeroplanes for living! Yes, you can get a 767 or a 330 out of NCL, but it's TODA restricts the payload/fuel. This, therefore will increase the costs to the operator and, not surprisingly, it's fares to cover the possibility of a tech stop. Just like in the movies "Built it and they will come". Unless of course, NCL uses revenues from its shorter haul operators to subsidise the long haul operators - hardly fair!

[johnwalton]

The problems with take-off performance only really occur in bad weather conditions with runway 25 because of the high ground to the west of the runway. There will be a runway extension to the east in about 4-7 years time, but it will take that long for the plans to go through consultation etc.

[10 DME ARC]

Boys, I would be the first to say we need a longer runway, and have been saying so ever since I came back here fifteen years ago.
However unless the airport got some sort of aid, gov or European, its not going to happen soon. The last costing put it at around one million pounds per metre extended! Because of the road and relocation of the Cat III ILS etc.
However the present runway is long enough for Eastern sea board and Middle East flights so we struggle on. I have done long haul fam flights out of NCL and it depends on the crews and the a/c what problems the runways gives. The 330 is mostly fine but 763's can struggle. MYT for a lot of years had problems with 25 even for the 320's however when we got to the bottom of it there ops manual was more to blame than the runway!
As for the present possibility of transatlantic flights - well I think if the runway was not long enough then the airlines wouldn't have even looked at us would they?
:)

[richardhall99]

I think that the airport needs to look at getting some more ramps to start of with. An extention of immigration would also be useful. Last year the airbus from Toronto and a load of European flights arrived at the same time and it was chaos down there. Another airbridge would also be useful.

i was on the ryanair milan flight on tuesday....it was full load and returned on friday....a little bit lighter but still looking good...come on ryanair....give us some more choice to dublin and the rest of europe

[nclairportfan]

I think FR do plan a North East base but are going to play NCL and MME off against each other for a while first.

Personally, I think they should choose NCL - more because of the potential for inbound tourism as well as outbound. If they pick their routes cleverly I think they will be immensely successful. I would hope for routes to Frankfurt Hahn, Oslo, Stockholm, Venice Treviso, Murcia, Shannon, Limoges and maybe Malmo but we will have to wait and see!!

[Jamesair]

Just read the announcement of a/c no.6 for Bristol for new routes to Inverness/Murcia and Pisa.

Maybe our No.7 will not be far behind now.

The destinations are interesting, Pisa and Murcia being new on the Easyjet network.

[MerchantVenturer]

Jamesair

I think you'll find it's number 8, not 6. Already have 7.

[nclairportfan]

Murcia is new to the easyJet network but they already fly to Pisa from ORY and a route from SXF starts soon.

[HH6702]

Kosmar 2006 again

All holidays now loaded onto the system.

Dalaman and Bodrum are added from newcastle both monday flights

DLM XLA7475/6 07:00-16:55

Cant find airline for the bodrum flight but times are 15:00-23:15
Think it will be excel?

[GrahamK]

easyJet operating their Rome flights to Bologna today and tomorrow due to the Popes funeral

Oh and does anyone know what a/c type TAP are using into NCL from Lisbon today?

[10 DME ARC]

Last I heard A319.
:)

[Britannia]

Yes it's an A319: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v654/EGNT/TAP.jpg

[Jamesair]

MerchantVenturer

sorry, I did know it was a/c No. 8 (typing error):\

Makes Bristol the biggest Easyjet base outside of London

[Britannia]

Any update on the flights for the 17th?

Chris

[NCLRULES]

Hi,

Newbie here. Chris, the last I heard about flights on the 17th, they were as follows:

FCA: 2 x 320, 1 x757
BY: 1 x 757, 1 x 762
MON: 1 x A300, 1 x A320
TCX: 1 x 757
EZY: 1 x 319 (Going to BRS)
EAF: 1 x 737

[transwede]

Malta Bargains and associated airline BritishJet are launching flights from NCL to MLA using MD90 of swiss carrier Hello. Flights operate on fridays departing 1240.

Another new service from NCL, it will operate all year round.

[GrahamK]

Not seen many MD90s at NCL before, the only one I remember being an AMC of Egypt flying on behalf of Helios.

[nclairportfan]

Looks like Newcastle Airport are actively trying to get direct flights to New York.

And a hint that easyJet are to base another aircraft soon.


Sorry, but you cannot use PPRuNe as a free advertising platform for your own website. Paid for advertising is available on PPRuNe, just follow the links!
Advertising on PPRuNe (http://www.pprune.org/advert.php)

BlueEagle - Moderator.

[Speedtape]

Rather not have any more flights to the good ol US of A than we have currently. Stops the yanks dictating the security arrangements and makes everybody's lives a little easier;)

[Jamesair]

according to the latest "Airliner World" magazine talks are ongoing between the airport and CSA Czech Airlines, Eastern Airways, EuroManx and Flybe for the launch of new routes later this year plus, of course the next Easyjet aircraft.

[GrahamK]

Helios 1 x weekly to Larnaca scheduled flights

[NCLRULES]

I've heard the Malta flights with BritishJet are to be operated by a Flight line B733.

[airhumberside]

Flightline dont have any B737-300's

[GrahamK]

Whats the HLX flight in from Stuttgart tomorrow for? In at 8am out at 8:25am according to the NCL website

[Kev 1]

Has disappeared from the boards today, I know last week a similar situation occurred with the newcastle departures boards stating that a VLM flight was due to depart to London City at 6.30am.

Rumour has it that this was a mistake by the airport and that VLM had applied for slots for these times and these slots were put on the boards by mistake, only a suggestion but maybe the same situation here for HLX? Possible watch out for Stuttgart flights beginning for the winter season?

Cheers

Kev

[crewboi83]

Anyone got a deffinate programme for the football flights on the 17th of April?
I know there is many rumours on ere, just curious to see who is doing them.

[transwede]

Any more details on scheduled Helios service?

I know they operate charter service to LCA every saturday but wasn't aware of scheduled service! Its about time we had a regular service to Cyprus.

Does anyone know if BritishJet's MLA is a scheduled service also? It is operated using leased Hello MD90, as is rest of their UK departures. Will this new competitor push Air Malta into operating regular scheduled services to the island in place of just charters?

Its great that loads of rumours regarding new charter and scheduled service are flying round,

OK to PRG
Eastern/VLM to LCY
Eastern to NWI
EuroManx to LCY
HLX to STR
New York
The rumoured Flybe routes
New EZY services
there was once rumours of Warsaw, Krakow and Scandinavia too,

but lets hope the terminal and ramp can handle it. Ques are quite often horrendous, particularly at weekends during the summer season! Terminal 3 anyone????

[Travel Agent]

Britishjet flights gone from website for now as the new route has not been confirmed, according to Maltabargains. My pax are temporarily without seats :rolleyes:

[10 DME ARC]

SWE
Air Malta have already changed the NCL service to scheduled once a week.
We only have one terminal here at NCL so terminal three is a long way off. A few stands would be nice, but we should get a few more built this winter.
:)

[transwede]

Divide all the airlines up between the two different check in areas and rename them halls 1 and 2. Place signs outside each hall with lists of airlines held in each. Would simplify things....possibly.

Shame about BritishJet, thought it was a wee bit sus. Maybe now KM will begin a conveniently timed, year round service to MLA.

Heres some other ideas for routes that could possibly work, maybe not daily but for some, atleast twice weekly.

TLV/ATH/OSL/FRA/VCE/NAP/MAD/FAO/ZRH/ORK/SNN/TLS

Maybe even a ZOOM Canada service. TS seem to do well with their summer YYZ route.

What NCL needs is a greater choice of winter destinations, maybe to Carribbean, Canada and more euro city break places to compliment the ususal stuff to Canaries and North Africa.

[skyman771]

What aircraft stand problem are we concerned about? I use the airport on a regular basis & it is seldom anywhere near full. Early mornings busy perhaps!
I was on the BA1334 yesterday afternoon & at 17.30 (it was late !) other than the BA757 there were only 3 other aircraft to be seen on the terminal side of the airfield , the Channel Express Frieght 737 & a 748 & one EZY 737.
The thing that hacks me off as a regular user is that if I'm not flying BA then seldom is NCL able to provide anything "third world" access to aircraft. What a fine first impression to the North East.
Seems to me that for too long the airport has an attitude problem to airstairs and simply can't or wont pay for their introduction, the reason being that BA have preferential access to the only two available is that they paid for their installation!
I asume that any US airline considering NCL would also note this fact.

[10 DME ARC]

SWE
I think you will see some of your wish list over the next year or so......
More flights to Canada could do very well, like you say seats on TSC can and are bought very cheaply, yet are not advertised as they can be sold so easily! with a little effort a second flight could be possible.

Charter companies seem to hate long haul in the winter from NCL, yet the Orlando always seemed to do well but was always cut for most of the winter - Just when you wanted to go some where hot? We've had no winter long haul (apart from shake ya leg) this winter!

Now Emirates to Dubai ..... that would be nice.

City breaks? We have loads at the moment!
:)

[crewboi83]

Skyman771...
i totally agree with your comments RE the use of jetties... NCL only have 2, and they charge a fee per turnaround for the use of this and not many airline pay it, the usual airlines are BA, BY and MYT every now and then.
However as regards to ur comment about the stand.. while i agree in the winter its dead, however summer is a different matter, especially the weekend, i used to work for an airline and we quite often got remote stands, and ive even seen us have to wait for about 10 mins to get a stand full stop!

[skyman771]

A wait of 10 minutes for a stand of ANY type, you must surely have been unlucky. Still this would appear to often be the norm these days on a very early morning arrival as at say LHR.

Funny someone just mentioned DXB as a possible route. Seems to me this is perhaps more of a medium term probability than a US scheduled service. Was out in Dubai recently & the growth rate in everything there from general construction, to airport terminal construction through to Emarites fleet expansion is totally phenomenal.... All in the cause of an effort to replace oil with tourism.
Now all these extra aircraft will have to generate revenue from new destinations and a 7 hour flight on an A330 DXB -NCL has to be a future practical possibility. The traffiic volume to the UK must be there already when you have 3 London, a Manchester & and a Birmingham departure all within 90 minutes most mornings.
Now when the tourist capacity increases by as much as fourfold, as IT WILL over the next 5 years then all these extra tourists are going to have to come from somewhere......

[GrahamK]

I suppose potential new charter destinations could include Taba, Hurghada or Luxor in Egypt, some new Greek destinations (perhaps ATH reinstated), Goa, Barbados etc

[NCLRULES]

The airport has made some silly mistakes lately.

A VLM London City flight has been on the departure/ arrival board 3 times (Maybe more, I've only seen it three times). It has also been on the baggage reclaim.

It appears that HLX are planning to operate Stuttgart as it was on the arrival and departure boards last night. This obviously suggests that HLX have applied for slots!

[Jamesair]

Transwede

Both the Helios and Air Malta scheduled services are shown in the April Scheduled Timetable now on the airport website. Air Transat Toronto is also listed as a scheduled service

[Maude Charlee]

The problems with NCL as an airport don't so much stem from the lack of facilities (with the exception of limited stands for summer nightstoppers), but that everything has a tendency to arrive and depart more or less together. For example, the ramp is deserted by 0800 and stays that way until after 0900 when everything starts to reappear again until around 1100 when it is deserted once more. Between 1600 and 1700 virtually all the stands on the pier are occupied, and this is perhaps the single busiest hour for the airport each day.

This surge of demand for all the various services provided by the airport and ground handlers is where the problems lie. A smooth steady flow of aircraft could be managed without difficulty, but none of the service providers have the capacity to cope with everything at once. As things stand, there are large numbers of people sat around for much of the day with nothing to do, and then running about like idiots when the a/c are in. This causes problems not only for the ground handlers, but for the airport fuellers, coaching, disabled pax handling, as well as exposing the physical limitations of the buildings which are badly designed and totally unacceptable for the pax numbers now using NCL.

I know that the airport has plans in place to attempt to address these issues, but I don't think they are able to keep up with the place of demand. The airport's business is growing much faster than its facilities, and it will very soon reach the point where it will damage its own potential by being unable to cope and pax will turn away if they have any alternative open to them.

[Travel Agent]

Just received new brochures from First Choice today for Summer 2006. All flights are to be op by TCX except VRN to be op by FCA "W" - no First Choice Airlines base by the looks of things. Although EAF are down to do a Maderia flight.

[crewboi83]

Maude Charlee.... pretty much the nail on the head there!
I now work for an airline in MAN and I have to admit, It feels more like an airport... NCL seems to lack that, I dont know why.
I enjoy working from MAN, althought I do miss NCL and like to keep updated. I hope to see NCL get all these services, I have checked in a few major carriers from that airport and DXB and JFK/EWR are VERY popular.. so im sure EK would easily fill a 330 no problem, although maybe not daily at first.

[10 DME ARC]

Maude
That what you call an airport! As a regional airport we are on the rim of hub operators like BAW/AFR/KLM etc. We also have a low cost base with Easyjet, both of these operations lead to bunching up of traffic at certain times of the day. The airport is slot constraint through ACL for parking and terminal congestion and you will find where ever possible flights are more spaced out during the day this summer.
others
As for waiting for stands, well you try travelling any where and that happens a lot more than Newcastle. I have waited 45min for a stand at Manchester and 40min at Gatwick in the last six months alone! You only have to look at CAA figures for last year which put NCL as one of the most punctual airports in the country!
As for NCL departure gates? Well you's don’t get around much!!
:)

[GrahamK]

I hear Bruce Dickinson was up front on the Astraeus 757 which flew the Newcastle United team to Lisbon on Tuesday. True or false?

[captainben]

True, it was in the Chronicle, nice to see Bruce at NCL for a change:)

[GrahamK]

The HLX from Stuttgart is showing for tomorrow at 1250 again, presume this is another mistake?

[Kev 1]

See below a copy of the arrivals board this morning, this contains the HLX Stuttgart flight again plus an arrival from Gerona op by Air Scotland (GRE2442)

EZY285 12:20 LONDON STANSTED
KL961 12:25 AMSTERDAM
EZY6438 12:35 NICE
T34254 12:35 ISLE OF MAN
HLX5570 12:50 STUTTGART
BA8075 12:55 LONDON GATWICK
T34624 13:00 BIRMINGHAM
BA1332 13:15 LONDON HEATHROW
EZY6408 13:20 MALAGA
GRE2442 13:30 GERONA
BE427 13:35 BELFAST CITY

Cheers

Kev

[HH6702]

HLX

lets hope we get stuggart and hamburg!!!


If we did get these routes then HLX will have germany covered. Was hoping we might get the odd route from germanywings or air berlin but this doesn't look so.

[10 DME ARC]

The latest list for the 17th is;
ARF 2xA321
MON 1xA320 & 1xA306
FCA 2xB752 & 1xA320
BAL 1xB752
TCX 1xB752
SCY 1xMD83
EZE 1xJS41 & 1xSB20
AWW 1xAT42
EZY 1xA319

:)

[Jamesair]

re Germany.....There is still a need for a Lufthansa link to Frankfurt. A good link to Star Alliance flights is required.

[Britannia]

The latest list for the 17th is;


Looks good, shame about no EAF.

Any times for departures at NCL yet? I just want an idea as I'm geting up to the airport early on Sunday.

[HH6702]

First Choice 2006

TCX sundays flight to FAO is now replaced with MIR.

EAF flight will be XLA the same as the last 2 years.

Shame it looks like SSH is back to only 1x weekly.

[transwede]

Britannia don't quote me but I think the Air Scandic/Viking MD is due to depart at 10.00 and the AeroFlight 321 at 07.50, not sure about the rest. 6000 fans on numerous flights throughout the morning, looks like the terminal will be busy aswell as all usual flights.

Any other companies released 2006 yet? May get an indication of new routes when they are.

Heres a few predictions of mine for the next 12-18 months, using my crystal ball :D!!!!

CSA daily flight to PRG

Euromanx to IOM and possibly LCY

Eastern to INV, NWI and maybe the long awaited MAN service.

FlyBE to BHX, SNN, ORK and ABZ.

Extra req on LH DUS service to 2 daily am and pm with maybe a Frankfurt service.

HLX to Stuttgart (as rumoured).

Easy's aircraft 7 and 8 to MAD, FAO, VLC, VCE, WAW and BSL.

A Zoom Canada service.

New long haul charters to Cancun.

Numerous new european charters to the Med.

Regular scheduled services to Larnaca and Malta.

Announcement of a US service.

Ryanair increasing services to their european hubs.

And the possibility of EK to DXB and the return of EI to go head to head with Ryan on the DUB.

Maybe......Maybe not, lets wait and see but it all looks rosy for Newcastle........Its a brand New World

:ok: :D

[HH6702]

New flight for S06

Mytravel website

OUTBOUND Futura FUA1450
Departs Newcastle 06-May-2006 09:00
Arrives Majorca (Palma) 06-May-2006 12:45

RETURN Futura FUA1449
Departs Majorca (Palma) 13-May-2006 06:15
Arrives Newcastle 13-May-2006 08:00


Excel will contiune to be used on the tuesday morning palma.

Looks like excel may be going somewhere new on saturdays?

[Jamesair]

The May issue of "Aircraft Illustrated" says that EASTERN have secured slots for a 4 x daily (weekdays) service between NCL and LCY to be operated by Saab 2000 aircraft. It also says that proving flights were carried out in March.

[captainben]

Look in tonights Chronicle, theres a Ryanair advert advertising seats to Shannon for £12.99!

[CentreFix25]

HH6702, the Futura Palma flight you mention for '06 is operating this year - for Airtours i believe.
I think there will only be one based XLA(Islandsflug) aircraft his Summer, it departs to Palma at 05.00 on a Saturday returns at lunch time then off to Alicante.

[NCLRULES]

There will be a Excel 737, IslandsFlug 737 and Finnair 757-200 based at NCL this summer.

[nclairportfan]

Captainben

Did the Ryanair advert say it would fly from Newcastle? Nothing on their website or booking system.

[Britannia]

Looks like an XLA might be doing a football flight as one came in last night from Brussels, probably TF-ELJ again.

[10 DME ARC]

Ref Shannon

Yes I have just seen the advert as well pg7 of Fridays Chronicle, quarter page advert Shannon from £12.99!

Ryanair advert but with Ireland tourism logo as well. Book by 21/04 travel 05/05 to 07/07. Flights direct from Newcastle Airport!

Interesting.....................
:)

[nclairportfan]

Very odd as their booking system doesn't show it currently. Could be a hint of a new route or just a mistake!

[Britannia]

Might be via Dublin.

[HH6702]

Wait for monday.

Ryanair will annouce new routes SNN and maybe hamburg?

Ryanair said it would expand.

[nclairportfan]

Ryanair don't fly from Dublin to Shannon though and don't offer a connecting flight service. It should be a route from NCL though as I think it would be popular.

Lets wait for Monday!

[10 DME ARC]

Hopefully not just all an expensive mistake which should read Dublin?
Start a new route within three weeks???

How much does a quarter page advert cost in the chronicle????
:)

[johnwalton]

How much does a quarter page advert cost in the chronicle????

I know a quarter page advert in the job section on a Thursday is from £800. Depends what day/placement/page number etc, but you'd be talking in the region £1000-5000, maybe more seen as it was Fridays paper.

[GrahamK]

Is there a reason for the NCL website not showing any flights to Cardiff tomorrow?

[NCLRULES]

Probably because there just special flights. Only operational today.

[GrahamK]

Nah, they would show them surely, especially as the CWL website is showing them

[NCLRULES]

I thought they would aswell, but they didn't. Just the usual 6G flight was on the departures board for Cardiff.

[Jamesair]

The arrivals back from Cardiff are all showing (or up to the cut off time point) on the arrivals/departures section of the airport website.

[Jamesair]

SHANNON

No announcement about Shannon today from either the airport or Ryanair.

Anybody heard anything else on this mystery?

[NCLRULES]

Seems to of gone all quite.....

[10 DME ARC]

Like I said before seems like an expensive mistake!

:)

[captainben]

Must be a canny pricey mistake then, especially if it was in tonight's Chronicle too.:rolleyes:

[NCLRULES]

E mail from Newcastle Airport:


Hi Chris

Thank you for your enquiry, I’m afraid it was a mistake we will not be operating to Shannon.

Regards

Customer services

How could FR make a mistake like that!?

[10 DME ARC]

Ryanair must have more money than sense!
:)

On a different subject, have just seen the article in Airliner World on NCL. Seemed very good until the quote "four charter aircraft are based at the airport this summer" !!
I had always rated AW ah never mind, should have read "eight charter aircraft based this summer, BAL 2 x B752, TCX 2 x B752, MYT 1 x A320, XLA 3 a/c (2 x B734 & a SCY B752)"
Only 50% out!!
:O

[Jamesair]

10 DME ARC

I noticed that error in Airliner World.....not very good

On a different subject, pax traffic on the HLX Hanover route is 67% inbound to NCL which is really great for the city.

[GrahamK]

How are the other HLX flights doing?

[Jamesair]

The March figures on Cologne and Munich should be on the CAA provisional stats next week

[NCLRULES]

Hopefully they're good and HLX may consider adding Stuttgart, which has been rumoured .(And been on the arrivals/ departures board!):p

[coasting]

Provisional March figures for Munich were 503, while Cologne attracted 1453. Does'nt appear to be very good, unless they only operated for latter part of month. By comparison Hanover carried 3023 total.

[GrahamK]

Munich only opertsed for 3 0or 4 flightd through March so not to bad

[PapaRomeo]

You been drinking by any chance???? :E

[GrahamK]

Me? Drinking? Never :ouch:

[Jamesair]

I see the SAS Copenhagen pax figures are creeping up towards the levels needed for twice daily rotations, 1,457 in March. I understand that a constant 1,700 per month is the level required.

[NCLRULES]

Looking good. The pax numbers will continue to grow during the summer season I bet.

[HH6702]

Hi

New route to Djerba in Tunisia for summer 2006.

Source Airtours 2006

Saturday flight leaves 17:25 arrives sunday 01:40 airline code BJ

With based times there is maybe BY instead??

[nclairportfan]

Just got back from Cologne with HLX. Outbound and return flights were both around 75% full so quite good.

[GrahamK]

Newcastle the fastest growing UK airport last year
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4480983.stm

[skyman771]

Fastest growing airport & this is without any further pier development or Air Bridges...... Perhaps someone has decided to invest in more buses for ground transportation instead !

[nclairportfan]

There are strong indications on another website that one of the new EZY routes from NCL will be in direct competition with a major UK Airline at NCL.

[captainben]

The only thing that springs to mind is BA on the Gatwick?:confused:

[nclairportfan]

I think EZY on LGW makes sense as it opens up another domestic route for them and links two bases that they have. However, it could just be speculation.

[CentreFix25]

What about Amsterdam, KLM reducing their frequency. I think NIA have a good thing going with BA at the minute, and I don't think they would want to upset them.

[Jamesair]

I agree with CentreFix. Would NIA want to upset BA.?....unless they have intimated that they might want to pull off Gatwick at some stage. The pax figures seem healthy though making that look unlikely.

AMS....if KLM are planning to reduce frequency I could see this as a possibility although didn't Easyjet complain about charges at Schipol causing them to reduce operations there?

It was once rumoured that Easy might go head-to-head with Rynair on the Stansted run, maybe this could be the answer.

[10 DME ARC]

James
Don't you mean Ryanair go head to head with Easy? as Easy do STN four times a day!
:)

[HH6702]

Well Thomson have put 2006 on sale.
There is good news and also bad news

Bad news is that there is no new routes for the airport.

Good news is that both aircraft will stay all week and they have added MIR and Antalya to there route network.

Does'nt look like bourgas or varna is being done by Thomson as not on website but may get added later?

Will try to put timetable on here later.

[Travel Agent]

I saw the summer brochure yesterday and I'm sure they are doing flights to Varna, but not Bourgas

[johnwalton]

They are definitely doing Varna, its a Wednesday night flight

2000 NCL - VAR 0135
0235 VAR - NCL 0415

[HH6702]

Summer arrivals

Does anybody know when the extra based aircraft will be arrving.

an extra BY and TCX and 2 XLA plus SCY

[Jamesair]

The MAY issue of the scheduled timetable is now on the airport website.

The main changes are that the Manston flights are now showing at the correct late night timings and Stavanger changes its timings to NCL arr 1155 dep 1225 Mon thru Fri from 4th July till 12 Aug then it reverts back to the evening times again.

[GrahamK]

If you go to the Thomson Flights website, it shows Cancun as a destination from Newcastle for 06, but it appears you cannot book it yet

The destinations for NCL from Thomson for 06 are
Antalya - Britannia
Bodrum - Thomas Cook
Cancun - N/A but down as a destination
Corfu - Britannia
Dalaman - Britannia
Sharm El Sheikh - N/A but down as a destination
Faro - Britannia
Fuerteventura - Thomas Cook
Funchal - Excel Airways
Gerona - Britannia
Gran Canaria - Britannia
Heraklion - Britannia
Ibiza - Britannia
Kos - Britannia
Lanzarote - Britannia
Larnaca - Britannia
Malaga - Britannia
Malta - MyTravel
Minorca - Britannia
Monastir - Thomas Cook
Naples - N/A but down as a destination
Palma - Britannia x 2, Air Europa
Paphos - Britannia
Puerto Plata - Excel Airways
Reus - Britannia
Rhodes - Britannia
Orlando Sanford - Monarch, Excel Airways
Tenerife - Britannia
Varna - N/A but down as a destination
Zakynthos - Britannia

[HH6702]

Thomson holidays are shown Varna as BY and SSH as TCX

Will hunt a few sites for cancun.

Thanks for the info

[HH6702]

I see that XLA3136/7 is operating.
Lets hope that BD and this XLA flight goes ahead throughout the summer months!!!

Anybody know when the airport will be updating there summer guide?

[Jamesair]

Cancun would make a great new destination for NCL. I would like to see somewhere in Cuba offered as well. Hope someone from XL or FCA etc read this.

[CentreFix25]

Cancun was mentioned in the Chronicle a couple of nights ago, there probably just sorting out when and by who it will operate.

[GrahamK]

Excel seem to be the likely one's operating long haul from NCL.

[CentreFix25]

Any pattern emerging to the based XLA program, I saw a 767-200 on finals this afternoon?

[unclebaldy]

I saw it twice this afternoon, dunno if just 'crew' training

[Maude Charlee]

Yep, crew training.

[JKP505]

Does anybody by any chance have a full timetable (flight nos. as well if possible) of Air 2000/First choice Airways' last full Summer season at Newcastle airport, all I have is a list of their scheduled flights? I think it was the 2000-2001 season?

I urgently need this, and would greatly appreciate it. Apologies for being a bit off topic, but I thought I'd try this thread given the interest in it.

[HH6702]

Hi

From what i can remember

Monday LPA
Tuesday ALC,PMI,HER
Wednesday PHO
Thursday FAO,ACE
Friday TFS,CFU
Saturday ALC,PMI,RHO
Sunday ZTH,LCA


I fly with them on sundays before so that is correct and i think the rest is. I do have the timetable printed off somewhere is i do find it i will post it here with full flight codes and times.

hope this helps you for the minute

[tcx00]

hi

i will be travelling to fuertavanture (fua) later this year on thomas cook airlines
the flight details are as followes;

TCX998K/L Fuerteventura 15:15
and
TCX998K/L Newcastle 0.55*

if any one had any info; reg. a/c etc i would be very grateful to receive this.

thank you!

Jay

[GrahamK]

Only thing that is definite is that it will be a 757-200.

[tcx00]

thanks grahamk!

does anyone know the regs?

[GrahamK]

The a/c get swapped about the bases very often so there is no way of knowing the a/c reg for definite until you actually board the a/c and take off ;)

[tcx00]

ok!
cheers - i will take a guess and say g-flcd and g-jmcg - the 2 based a/c i think.
thanks again Grahamk

[Flightrider]

JKP505, not sure why on earth you want this, but here goes:

Based B757 flew:
Day Flight No Routing Dep / Arr
Mon AMM 651C/D NCL-LPA-NCL 0725/1735
AMM 656C/D NCL-DLM-NCL 1905/0445
Tue DP 274/107 NCL-PMI-GLA 0555/1225
DP 106/275 GLA-PMI-NCL 1325/1945
AMM 654C/D NCL-HER-NCL 2050/0615
Wed DP 086/087 NCL-PFO-NCL 0930/1955
AMM 652C/D NCL-RHO-NCL 2130/0710
Thu DP 226/227 NCL-FAO-NCL 0815/1510
DP 122/123 NCL-ACE-NCL 1705/0230
Fri DP 264/265 NCL-TFS-NCL 0650/1705
AMM 660C/D NCL-CFU-NCL 2000/0350
Sat DP 258/259 NCL-PMI-NCL 0500/1125
DP 198/199 NCL-ALC-NCL 1255/1935
AMM 663C/D NCL-IBZ-NCL 2040/0315
Sun AMM 664C/D NCL-ZTH-NCL 0825/1640
DP 090/091 NCL-LCA-NCL 1755/0430
Non-based aircraft on W patterns were:
Tue AMM 655C/D NCL-REU-NCL 2355/2255 B757
Wed AMM 689C/D NCL-VRN-NCL 1140/1040 A320
Fri AMM 692C/D NCL-MAH-NCL 1325/1145 B757
Fri DP 146/147 NCL-AGP-NCL 1515/1420 A321

All times utc, so add one hour for local arrival/departure times at NCL.

Happy number-crunching or whatever you want to do!

[HH6702]

Hi

Looks like SSH is going twice weekly for summer 2006 after all!!!

Found this on mytravel website

Sunday flights with no times or airline

OUTBOUND Tba TBA
Departs Newcastle 14-May-2006 00:00
Arrives Egypt - Sharm El Sheikh 14-May-2006 00:00

RETURN Tba TBA
Departs Egypt - Sharm El Sheikh 21-May-2006 00:00
Arrives Newcastle 21-May-2006 00:00
14-May-2006 £370.00

[Jamesair]

The Thomson "Far - Away" brochure for summer 2006 shows two Sharm-el-Sheik departures weekly. One had a TCX flight code.

[JKP505]

Cheers for the info guys...

[Topjet]

Look out for TF-ABA B747 coming in tomorrow approximately 1630 local time, its operating the outbound XLA to SFB the following morning. :ok:

[HH6702]

Flightrider


By any chance do you have a full charter timetable for summer 2003??

i cant find my copy.

Thanks

[GrahamK]

I see the FlyBe morning flight to BHD and a nice delay as did the XLA flight to SFB. Is it the 747 operating the return flight back to NCL as well?

[10 DME ARC]

The B742 should be returning and doing the POP tomorrow, I say 'should' it did go out a wee bit late today!
:)

[GrahamK]

Christ, a 762 last week, a 742 this week. What next? A 772? :cool:

[Maude Charlee]

747 stopping over in Orlando tonight, then heading to Paris Orly tomorrow, so don't think you're going to see it at NCL. 3hr30min delay courtesy of Swissport fuel and a tech problem spotted during pushback, which also cost the Islandsflug engineers their airside driving permts as they shot off across a live taxiway in 'hot pursuit'. :rolleyes:

[Speedtape]

That's them knackered then :rolleyes: Sums up Air Atlanta totally:hmm:

[GrahamK]

So whats operating the POP tomorrow? An XLA a/c or something else?

[GrahamK]

Todays flight being operated via Manchester?
Seems to have been a 767-200

[Britannia]

Anybody know if 767 P4-MES is due in this weekend for the game?

Thanks ,

Chris

[Jamesair]

With all the problems connected with Onur Air. How will this affect the planned A300 flights to Dalaman programmed to commence 29th May?

[GrahamK]

OHY not banned from the UK (yet?) so should be no problems (yet?)

[tcx00]

when does the fca stanford flight kick off ? i went down to ncl over the weekend but i did'nt catch it!
will it be on a new 767?

cheers!
jay.

[GrahamK]

Think it starts 29th May, operating every 2 weeks.

[tcx00]

cheers!
i wish fca would bring a base back to ncl?!

any anyone confirm these based a/c?

g-fclf
g-fclg tcx

g-byan ?
g-b

g-suew/g-joem

excel's? tf-elt

finnair? oh-lbx

thankyou !!!
Jay

[ric180880]

At the moment Britannia/Thomsonfly has G-BYAL & G-BYAS based at NCL, however these are constantly changing. One of them will be going to LTN for the weekend and a different one will no doubt come back up on Monday morning.

[Maude Charlee]

MYT currently using JOEM as based a/c.

XLA using TF-ELY and TF-ELJ.

[Jamesair]

Rumour has it that the EUJet flights to Kent International are reducing to 3 weekly on Tu/Fri/Su from early June. Nothing on their website yet though.

[nclairportfan]

Looks like the rumour is true. The EUJet website is now showing flights on Tues, Fri and Sun for a random date in August for flights to and from NCL.

[richardhall99]

I had doubts on whether this service would last. I cant see such demand for a flight to Kent.

I have to say though that a FLYBE service to Norwich could do alright or even routing an EASTERN from ABZ to NWI via NCL.

Does anyone have any further information on London City from Newcastle?

How is the SAS CPH doing?

[Jamesair]

re: SAS Copenhagen....last pax figure was 1457 for March...should have April figure next week.

London City...there is a copy of an e-mail received from LCY on another site in which they say that they have been looking for an operator and hope to be able to make an announcement soon.

[NCLRULES]

I e-mailed EUjet just before they officially annouced the Kent Intl route. They replied saying there was a lot of demand for the flight.

[Jamesair]

I think the big mistake with the Kent Intl route was the ridiculous timing of the flights...apart from Sunday.

If they had operated with reasonable timings it may just have worked.

They only have themselves to blame. A charter flight with a captive audience can get away with bad timings but a scheduled domestic flight......timing and convenience for pax is the name of the game.

[10 DME ARC]

EU Jet web site now not showing any dates July/Aug message says contact them by phone!!
Looks like its being pulled.

Not surprised really !

Could be the web site is down mind you?

[NCLRULES]

Adding to what Jamesair said, they haven't advertisted aswell!?:rolleyes:

[Jamesair]

The new EU frequency commences on the 5th June and becomes 3 x weekly.....same times.....maybe they will operate one of the planned ATR 42 fleet (for thinner routes) on the route.

[Jamesair]

Quite an eventful day yesterday with pax being bussed up to catch diverted flights from Leeds after the runway over-run last night plus the long delayed Excel Rhodes flight caught up in the Rhodes morning ATC strike.

[Maude Charlee]

Think you'll find the Excel delay was more to do with awkward flight crew than anything to do with ATC anywhere. Angling for a night stop from the word go, and ended up getting it. The sooner Excel get shot of Islandsflug the better. They were a pain in the bum last year, and haven't improved over the last 12 months.

[nclairportfan]

CAA provisional stats show :

FR got 6989 passengers on MME - CIA route in March.

EZY NCL - CIA got 7445 passengers in March.

FR NCL - BGY got 6716 passengers in March.


April:

April stats show NCL - BGY got 6841 pax. No MME figure on stats available at the moment.

[Jamesair]

so that gives 114 pax per flight on NCL -BGY based on 60 flights during April.

good but could do better

waiting to see how the SAS Copenhagen does in April

[nclairportfan]

1457 on the CAA Provisional Stats for NCL - CPH.

[Jamesair]

COPENHAGEN

That was the March figure, I'm hoping the April figure is up to the 1,700 level

[nclairportfan]

1457 is the figure shown on the CAA provisional stats for April too.

[Jamesair]

sorry, quite a co-incidence. With the shorter month it represents a slight improvement over March

[HH6702]

BritishJET.com (NCL-MTL)

BritishJET.com is to add Newcastle back to it's network. The airline did plan to start services at the end of MAY but will now start the route from 5th Nov 2005.