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AN FO fossil
18th Sep 2004, 07:30
Could someone please answer two questions for me regarding filling in a JAR pilots log book?

1 Does every sector (takeoff to landing) have to be entered seperately or can you enter one line to a duty period?

2 If you do a private practise session in a sim designed to simulate a generic light twin is that defined as FNPT ll, or what is FNPT l or ll?

Thanks.

Fokker-Jock
18th Sep 2004, 11:51
1.
The logbook states that each sector shall be written separately unless an aircraft carries out a number of flights upon the same day returning on each occasion to the same place of departure and the interval between successive flights does not exceed thirty minutes.

2.
FNPT = Flight Navigation Procedure Trainer
The difference between I and II is the complexity of the simulator, and the requirements for both can be found in JAR-STD 3A & 3H for helicopters respectively

AN FO fossil
18th Sep 2004, 17:52
Thanks.

As I don't have access to those documents yet would you venture a guess as to which category the sim I used falls into?

It was a typical smaller flying school twin sim meant to simulate a duchess or similar.

Thanks again.

Fokker-Jock
18th Sep 2004, 18:19
JAR is available on the internet:

http://www.jaa.nl/section1/jarsec1.html

FNPT Type I
Minimum Technical Requirements
1 - A cockpitlflight deck sufficiently enclosed to exclude distraction,
which will replicate that of the aeroplane or class of aeroplane
simulated and in which the switches and all the controls will operate
as, and represent those in, that aeroplane or class of aeroplane.
2 - Instruments, equipment, panels, systems, primary and secondary
flight controls sufficient for the training events to be accomplished
[shall] be located in a spatially correct flight deck area.
3 - Lighting environment for panels and instruments sufficient for the
operation being conducted.
4 - In addition to the flight crew members’ stations, suitable viewing
arrangements for the instructor [shall be provided. These shall]
provide an adequate view of the crew members panels and station.
5 - Effects of aerodynamic changes for various combinations of drag
and thrust normally encountered in flight, including the effect of
change in aeroplane attitude, sideslip, altitude, temperature, gross
mass, centre of gravity location and configuration.
6 - Navigation equipment corresponding to that of the replicated
aeroplane or class of aeroplanes, with operation within the tolerances
prescribed for the actual airborne equipment. This shall include
communication equipment (interphone and air/ground
communications systems).
7 - Control forces and control travel shall broadly correspond to that
of the replicated aeroplane or class of aeroplane.
8 - Complete navigational data for at least 5 different European
ahpotts with corresponding precision and non-precision approach
procedures including current updating within a period of 3 months. All
navigational aids should be usable, if within range, without restriction
and without Instructor intervention.
9 - Engine sounds shall be available.
10 -The following shall be available:
-variable effects of wind and turbulence.
-hard copy of map and approach plot. - provision for position freeze and flight freeze. - Instructor controls necessary to perform the training task.
11 - A Qualification Test Guide which shall be submitted by the
Operator in a form and manner that is acceptable to the competent
Authority and which conforms to AMC STD 3A.030 (para 1.6).
12 - Stall recognition device corresponding to that of the replicated
aeroplane or class of aeroplane

I would guess your sim is a type I

AN FO fossil
19th Sep 2004, 07:36
Thanks for the very useful info.

Cheers

PG