Biggest AC, Smallest Airfield

[BELHold]

Was watching an A321 climbing out of BHD today and just wondered if anyone has any other good examples of large AC utilizing Airports with small apron areas taxiways etc.

I suppose Eiliat would be another good example.

[BN2A]

Not much room for a 757 at Kerry...!

:)

[AIRWAY]

Hello,

Im learning to fly from Stapleford aerodrome and the biggest a/c operating is a B200 Kingair and our runway is half asphalt and half grass more or less... 1077m x 46m ( 600m x 18m asphalt )

:ok:

Regards,
AIRWAY

[gingernut]

Saw concorde at Barton when I was a nipper, but I'm pretty sure it didn't land.

[speedbird_heavy]

AN124 at Cardiff. Bloody hoooge it was.

[jettesen]

757 at inverness. quite a sight.

[simfly]

Aberdeen:- Alitalia cargo 747 touch and go last year. LTU A330-300 2 years ago. BA 777 2 years ago (Tony coming in from D.C enroute to Balmoral) and Sultan of Brunei in his wife's (apparently) A340 few years ago. All very impressive to watch on a 6001 foot runway!!!

one thing I have noticed here though is that every aircraft taking off does so in a normal distance, with the exception of Ryanair's -200's which rotate around the glidepath antenna for opposite runway :hmm: 1000foot remaining and looks very low over the road...

[airborne_artist]

http://www.canadianaviation.com/gallery/pictures/lnk1373%280%29.jpg

from this pprune thread (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=76347&perpage=15&pagenumber=9)

[Wycombe]

....have watched BY 757's being planted firmly on the piano keys at SOU(thampton) a few times. A 757 (private) has also been to Guernsey ( :eek: )

Many years ago (late '70's IIRC), a BA L1011 was operated to Jersey, to clear a backlog of earlier fogbound pax. An L1011 also made it in and out of Southend (late 90's?) for storage.

During Farnborough Airshow weeks, I've seen Falcon 50, 900, 2000, CL601 and ATR72 at Blackbushe (1200m approx).

Oh, and a C130 on the grass at Middle Wallop.

[andyb79]

Many years ago a Trident made its way into Scone(Perth), With its massive LDA of 853M.

Never took off again though;)

[simfly]

During Farnborough Airshow weeks, I've seen Falcon 50, 900, 2000, CL601 and ATR72 at Blackbushe (1200m approx).

and a B-52 :E

[Number Cruncher]

Citation into Elstree. Bet that was fun!

[incubus]

KC-130F Hercules on the flight deck of USS Forrestal (http://www.forrestal.org/fidfacts/page18.htm)

[Stoney X]

747 lands at Rand Airport (http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=121600&highlight=rand+airport+747)

The runway used was 1660m x 15m. There's some superb photo's on the thread.

Regards
Stoney X

[scroggs]

I regularly used to land the C130 on grass strips of less than 2000ft (600m) - and take off again! And we didn't need the 40kts wind-over-deck that the C130 on Forrestal did, though that was an amazing achievement.

[Max Angle]

Southend is only 1600m and they used to (perhaps still do) have a lot of 707's in there for maintenance. Getting out must look interesting from the flightdeck.

[Genghis the Engineer]

All things are relative,

I once landed a microlight on a strip owned and operated exclusively by a model flying club. I was the first manned aircraft they'd ever had.

G

[pbloore]

A B-52 was flown into Duxford (1500m) for their museum. It was it's final flight before de-commisioning, but in any event they bent it on landing!:ooh:

[Phileas Fogg]

And what about the Vulcan the military diverted into Sunderland Airport before they built the car factory.
Recall it had something like 2,500' of runway, had to take the Vulcan out by road, in pieces!

[con-pilot]

I can personally attest that you can get a Boeing 727 in and out of astonishing short runways with a fairly decent load. The biggest problem faced when operating on short runways is the load bearing capacity of the runway due to very high footprint of the 72.

Continental Airlines has or had a regular scheduled run in a Boeing 727 somewhere in the Pacific on a runway that was only 4,000 feet. Eastern Airlines operated a 727-200 in and out of Key West, Florida (KEYW) and that runway is 4,800 feet.

[Roastbeef]

Using the BAe146-200 every day on flights to scs (shettland's). There is only NDB or visual approach with 4 degree PAPI! Runway is only 1360 x 31m with displaced threshold by 150m. And yes there is as well a slope of 1.3%. :D better check your performance before....

The nearest alternates are Sumburgh & Kirkwall with runways of 1090m and 1050m. Can be a bit of a challange if you take the wind and weather into account! But its very good fun on nice days....;)

[airborne_artist]

I regularly used to land the C130 on grass strips of less than 2000ft (600m) - and take off again! And we didn't need the 40kts wind-over-deck that the C130 on Forrestal did

Was the grass pitching by 8'-10' though?

[Tarnished]

Remember seeing TV coverage of Comet being delivered into Strathallan - a grass strip. Lost one of the main legs as it hit a very small lip just on the threshold - good effort though

[UKpaxman]

Roastbeef - as a regular pax abz/scs have to agree. Some of the landings at scs are quite 'spirited' - especially with seemingly faster approach in decent crosswinds. Astonishing braking performance usually leaves plenty runway though. Taking off into the usual 30kt headwind makes for a short take off and impressive climb as well.

p.s on the 509 tomorrow - usual SW gale forecast:rolleyes:

[simfly]

And to think the ATP's used to struggle with more than 40 on board.... Take-offs from Scatsta now the closest thing to a shuttle launch :O (with 100 on board :ok: )

[DVR6K]

Seen a 757 leave Southampton (so presumably it landed there first which must have been a squeeze). Took less of the runway to leave the ground than the DO328 that left after it.

Air Transat used to operate a Tristar into Exeter of all places and left via Birmingham for Toronto I think.

Also, concorde has visited Exeter before now.

Tristars regularly go in and out of Cambridge for maintenence but not sure of the dimensions of the runway there. Can't imagine them being of NASA shuttle landing strip proportions though...

[Koan]

How about the Fedex A310 that operates into SNA (5700 ft.)? Only widebody I've ever seen there.

[Niaga Dessip]

Tarnished,

I saw that Comet at Strathallen when the museum was still there, and I would have loved to have seen that landing.

I did see at the time, but don't know if they are available now, some photos of a Nimrod on finals for the flight deck of the old Ark Royal. It was apparently an impromptu request from the Nimrod when he spotted the Ark in the western approaches. The Ark's controller didn't bat an eyelid and said "come on down". Fortunately the navy got some good pics. The pilot was invited to see his CO a couple of days later with the pics lying on his boss's desk. Comment? "Good show!"

Somehow, can't see it happening today, but would like to be told I'm wrong.:hmm:

Cheers! ND

[Tarnished]

Read Pissed Again,

Agreed, unlikely to see such "bravado" "high spirits" or "enthusiasm" in this day and age.

The fun police are everywhere. There are fewer and fewer times and places where "whacky" flying can be seen.

The Comet into Strathallan would probably be impossible today - the laws of aerodynamics and friction have surprisingly not changed but everyone in the command chain has added in their bit of a fudge factor - for the sake of safety of course, which means it now can't be done!! Amazing, that's called progress.

I also remember at or about the same time a Red Arrows display at Strathallan while they still had Gnats. After the full display the commentator said that as they were operating out of Leuchars which was very close they had some spare fuel which in turn meant they were going to finish with a thing he called the Rocket. This basically involved them all whooshing past in extended trail and about 5 -10 feet (ok 20 feet) and departing the scene of the crime in the vertical. V impressive - got a 35mm slide somewhere, stored in UK I'm sorry to say.

Who says nostalgia is not what it once was......

T

http://www.airandspacemagazine.com/ASM/Web/Site/QT/HercOn.html

slightly better video clip of a previous post

Sound track says the first office was Lt Cdr W Stovol (STOVL?!?!)

[rearwhelsteer888]

B 747 @ Longreach in queensland Australia,delivered there about 18 months ago I think for the Qantas Museum,It will not leave without about another 800m of runway.

[BlueEagle]

Lasham! - Biggest I ever flew there was a B737-200 but Dan Air flew in bigger stuff I believe, like Comets!

[G-MANN]

Air Atlanta operated a B747-200 into Funchal, Madiera in 2002 which i think was before the runway was extended.

That must have been hairy!

[No comment]

Blue Eagle, I think Lasham has welcomed numerous DC-8s and 727s aswell.
If I'm not mistaken, (and don't laugh!) there has been a DAS DC-10 in there too. Empty I presume!
Must have been pretty hairy, especially with a few gliders stuck to the windscreen...

[London Jets]

Didn't the B-52 (and Concorde for that matter) fly into Duxford?

Speaking of C-130's there is usually one at the Shoreham airshow.

Tristar at Jersey.

B747-200 and SP at Bournemouth.

LJ

[airborne_artist]

Didn't Concorde for that matter fly into Duxford?

Concorde flew into Duxford in August 1977. It had to go in before September as Duxford lost a significant length of rw to the M11, which is on the East end, in a slight cutting.

I was doing my flying scholarship at Luton, and at least one of my coursemates wangled a lesson to co-incide with the arrival.

[Wycombe]

Blue Eagle,

Dan Air also of course delivered a Comet to Doug Arnold at Blackbushe. Unfortunately it left in skips many years later (remember witnessing it being cut up :( ).

Only yesterday morning, saw (from a distance) a 75' launch rather ballistically from Lasham.

[HZ123]

A tristar into Southend in 1998 I believe which must have been an imposing sight.

[XL ONE]

Does anyone know how long Skiathos in Greece is, we regularly do that on a 757 and it seems rather tight. Just wandered how the length compares to some of the fields already mentioned.

[Wycombe]

...another one I thought of from a pax perspective was a LTN-LCA I did one warm August evening on a Cally L1011 (mid 90's).

Pax load was very nearly 400 from what I recall of conversations with the CC.

We certainly seemed to use most of the available tarmac - I've often wondered what the view from the flightdeck was like as we approached the "cliff" at the 08 end :eek:

[paulc]

How about an Il76 and AN12 into Southampton

[chrisleeds2003]

WardAir used to operate a 747-200 service to Toronto from Leeds/Bradford in the mid-80s, early 90s...

I can't imagine it went directly to YYZ, LBA's 32/14 couldn't cope with that.

[Golf Charlie Charlie]

Once saw a Dash 7 at Bembridge, IOW.

[Razor61]

Although Exeter handled Concorde etc, it's biggest visitor has to be the Sultan of Brunei who landed there in his own Airbus A340 when invited to the Lord Mayor of Dartmouth's 'garden party'... From what i heard it took up the whole runway.
VC-10s have also landed here and the odd C-17A (but that does'nt count).

[Doors to Automatic]

Wardair did operate from LBA direct to YYZ (also from BHX which was interesting to say the least!).

If 14 was in use at LBA the 747 had a landing distance of 5900ft!

At BHX I once saw the plane rotate on the threshold (only short displacement available ahead) - what that must have looked like from the flightdeck I can only imagine.

[EGLD]

I once saw a video of a 747 landing on what seemed like a dust track, in Australia I think

Anyone familiar with that video? it was quite something

[ORAC]

747 at Tambaram (http://www.financialexpress.com/ie/daily/19970603/15450453.html)

[speed freek]

Anyone know what the biggest thing that's gone into Courchevel, France.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/519674/M/

Its about 6500' up with a thunderingly great mountain on one side and a rather big drop on the other. As if that isn't enough the runway gradiant is about 18 degress! :ooh: Anybody fancy going there?

Cheers.

[Doors to Automatic]

I think the largest aircraft into Courcheval was a Dash-7

[simfly]

Its about 6500' up with a thunderingly great mountain on one side and a rather big drop on the other. As if that isn't enough the runway gradiant is about 18 degress! Anybody fancy going there?

Yeah, i would, especially if it were like it was when I was there last jan...... over yer shoulder fresh powder, clear skies, hmmm heaven (well, one of them!) :cool: Just a shame about the 3 hour+ transfer to Geneva :{ a dash-7 would have done nicely!!!!

A dash 7 was used during the 1992 winter olympics. Think it flew to/from Orly.

[Lindstrim]

Didnt a BA 777 land in Wellington direct from Jamacia(I cant spell to early in the morning) when the Queen visited a few years back?

[BlueEagle]

I've got an excellent .pps attachment showing several pictures of Courcheval but have no idea how to get it to show up here, any ideas?

[Paracab]

Max Angle,

The last 707 to land at Southend was within the last 2-3 years or so, it's crew dumped some drugs on the runway and the aircraft was subsequently impounded and is still there as far as I am aware.

727's in and out reguarly as well, I think I read somewhere, possibly in these hallowed halls, that they can only depart in favourable wind conditions, not sure how true that is, and its too late to start looking for performance figures.

I'm sure someone here knows...

[doubleu-anker]

The 707 was released after about 12 months or more on the ground at Southend.

It did not depart with the crew that bought it in. Most, if not all of that crew, have taken up other occuptions.

I guess it is now earning it's keep, in Africa?

[ramsrc]

Comet and Vulcan into East Fortune must have been quite a sight.

Sadly neither of them have left either!

[Krystal n chips]

On the subject of "one way trips" how about the 3 ? or possibly 2 Vulcans and a Comet that formerly graced RAF Halton. Halton being a very short grass strip ( not sure of the exact length ) what was even more remarkable was the fact these a/c were not used for static displays. They were, to all intents and purposes, live aircraft as they were subsequently used for training purposes as any former apprentice would confirm.

[PilotOnline]

There's a Citation that flies in at Denham a few times each year, that is a sight to see!:ooh:

[stiffwing]

!!!

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/312682/M

[flaps to 60]

Remember seeing a video of DHC Buffallo landing and taking off on a baseball pitch somewhere in Canada.

It took of in what looked like about 50' stunning.

[josephshankes]

I was at Farnborough one year when I saw a Buffalo do and extremely short landing indeed. Also stunning, believe me.

Less than 50' by quite a margin.

[the_flying_cop]

a dash 7 into bembridge i bet that was a challenge. we fly our islander into their on a semi-regular basis and it always seems a little hairy, even with a 10kt headwind. those caravans always seem to apear bigger than they should be.

xl one. yes the runway at skiathos seems a little short for the 757. i remember it distinctly the year i flew into there. i was thinking....... "we will be stopping soon.......wont we" did a 180' in the tiny bulb at the end.

[dicksynormous]

Flaps 60, joseph,

I was once in a dhc5 that did a stunning landing. :p in fact quite alot of em , but i tend not to brag

xlone...1610 lda 1.3 upslope on 02.:p

[Golf Charlie Charlie]

As for the Bembridge Dash 7, I doubt the runway length was the real challenge, but more the runway width.

[LTNman]

A Comet landed at Luton when it was a grass airfield in 1952 http://www.stevelevien.com/comet.htm

[Taildragger67]

EGLD,

The Qantas 747 you're thinking about is the one which went to the Museum. Kicked up lots of dust.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/298253/M/

An older relative used to operate Caribous into some fairly interesting strips in PNG... they sloped, so that the a/c would stop on arrival and then would have assistance to get off again. More than once, apparently, they'd pretty well fall off the end and use the decent-sized valley to get to anything like a respectable airspeed.

And this is a bou-bou we're talking about. I've seen them blown backwards by a strong breeze on approach.

I was once up front in a 763 into and out of St Thomas, US Virgin Islands. On arrival, the hill at the far end was coming up AWFUL fast!!! The hard stop was accompanied by sounds of much rattling & loose objects outside the door!

And surely ANYTHING into Wellington is a stress...

[stiffwing]

yes, but only when its light and variable (which isn't that often !)

[Phileas Fogg]

And having previously worked with the former Chief Pilot of Air America, putting fixed-wings down on what were effectively helipads, well ......
He even named one Laos landing strip after his wife, why did you name if after your wife XXXX I asked, in his best deep south American drawl came back the reply, 'cos it was a son of a bitch to get down on'!

[flaps to 60]

Dicksynormous

You the man!

I always told the missus shorter is best:p

[DW11]

Iberia A300 from Las Palmas, landing on 29 at Dublin. 1357m or just under 4400ft

[MAN777]

Fairchild C123 Provider landed on the "Strip" at Las Vegas, honest, saw it at the movies !!

[Doors to Automatic]

DW11 - Out of interest why did the A300 use 29 at Dublin? 28 is the usual runway for large stuff and failing that 16, as both are longer than 29.

[Liffy 1M]

I also remember that A300 landing on 29 at Dublin - as I recall it the winds were very strong from the NW and, as this was in pre-28 days, 05/23 was probably out of the question because of crosswind limits.

[SV_741_India_Bravo]

hi all,
All the 351 passengers and 17 crew members of a Saudia Airlines jumbo jet Boeing 747 aircraft had a miraculous escape when the flight SVA 770 scheduled to land at the Chennai airport at 6.30 am on Monday landed at the nearby Indian Air Force airbase in Tambaram at 6.44 am.

The wide-bodied heavy jumbo jet aircraft which landed on the secondary runway of the Air Force base came to a screeching halt at the edge of the runway barely 100 feet from a few offices on the campus of IAF Tambaram. The aircraft landed with a heavy thud and made a loud noise, scaring all those around. The airmen and others present at the Air Force base station ran for their lives, seeing the aircraft approach towards them at great speed. The flight was on its way to Chennai from Riyadh and Daharan.

The 4,763 feet secondary runway and four tyres of the aircraft were damaged following the landing of the aircraft. However, all the passengers and crew members escaped unhurt. As the pilot applied brakes, the passengers were thrown forward.

Airport sources said pilot of the aircraft Captain Khayyat sought visual clearance to land at the Chennai airport after sighting the runway. The Air Traffic Control (ATC) gave him permission to land, but the pilot reported that he had overshot the runway. The ATC instructed the pilot to circle and then come back for landing.

The pilot then went on an orbit and landed at the Tambaram Air Force station airstrip, mistaking it for the Chennai Airport. He then contacted the ATC and told them that he had landed, but they wanted to know where he was as they could not see the aircraft at the Chennai Airport. To their shock, the ATC learnt that the pilot had landed at the Tambaram Air Force station. They immediately contacted all agencies concerned and emergency operations commenced.

The Customs, International Airports Division of the Airport Authority of India and Immigration authorities rushed to the site of the incident. The passengers inside the aircraft suffered as the air-conditioning system was off. Passengers complained of suffocation.

Copyright © 1997 Indian Express Newspapers (Bombay) Ltd.



:ok:

[chiglet]

taildragger
That a/c isnot in landing config :rolleyes:
watp,iktch

[policepilot]

Chiglet
The ac has already landed, and is back tracking, as stated. Hence the flaps being retracted.

[Taildragger67]

Chiglet,

This is from the Qantas Museum's home page:

http://www.qfom.com.au/collections/virtual/vh-ebq/gallery.html

It's there and I'm sure the good burghers of Longreach would welcome you as a visitor!!

The day VH-EBQ arrived they got a 738 in as well. It had pax aboard for the show.

[spitfires rule]

:confused: i do not no where any of these air ports are i live in canada:confused:

[policepilot]

Where's Canada??? (joke, been there, loved it). Hey. Spitfire, buy an atlas.

[Tarnished]

Took a Hawk into Waddington once in a huge crosswind, at one point the runway was very very short, but it was ever so wide.

[springbok449]

BA 747-400 used to be a regular visitor to Cambridge for inerior refitting at Marshall...

[Airbanda]

Wardair did operate from LBA direct to YYZ (also from BHX which was interesting to say the least!).

If 14 was in use at LBA the 747 had a landing distance of 5900ft!

At BHX I once saw the plane rotate on the threshold (only short displacement available ahead) - what that must have looked like from the flightdeck I can only imagine.

In Nov 1976 Aviaco brought a DC9-30, EC CTS almost brand new, into LBA landing 33. This when the runway was 5400 feet, don't know what the LDA/TODA's were. BHX divert, LBA was above the inversion fog.

Went out again off 33 direct to Las Palmas with 56 on board. Rotated beyond the 10/28 intersection v near the 15 threshold.

[enicalyth]

In 1972 a DHC Beaver onto Colonsay golf course. When it landed 1 + 2 the population trebled. Runway discounting large rock and natural sand traps might've been 211ft 5in or the wingspan of an unrefuelled 744. Captain (and he was a captain, light blue beret and an awfully tarnished gold-wire REME cap badge). When he took off he had to wait until the tide was out and Decca who were carrying out a survey at the time in co-operation with HMS Hecla had to move their caravan. Entire population of 2 then adjourned to the Scalasaig Hotel to marvel at the ways of the modern world. I have always wanted to do same but the ruddy Royal Engineers went and built a runway so that giant twin Otters could do the same.

[farsouth]

I seem to remember seeing video of a US special forces flight test of a C130 with JATO bottles fitted in reverse, the intention being to stop very short - but on the flight test they somehow fired them just too early, while still airborne, and aircraft landed very heavily with quite bad damage. Don't know details of when or where.....
Anyone know any more on that one...??

[Wycombe]

Farsouth, I've seen this as well. It was how the US had originally planned to conduct a rescue during the Iranian Embassy siege (looked straight out of a far-fetched movie to me)

They planned to land the Herc on a nearby footy field, using retro rockets :eek:

Our course, they eventually used helicopters (CH53's, I think) and that didn't go too well either :(

[Zlin526]

The_Flying_Cop,

we fly our islander into their (Bembridge) on a semi-regular basis and it always seems a little hairy, even with a 10kt headwind.

You jest surely sir? An Islander into Bembridge hairy? I've taken a bog standard (i.e. knackered!) para club Islander in and out of a 500m uphill farmers strip with 10 parachutists on board, Noo probs!

BN Islander - Twin engined Cub:ok:

[cringe]

farsouth,

Here's a video of the C130 crash landing in question:
http://www.theaviationzone.com/media/c130_credible_sport.mpg

The accident occured in 1980:
http://aviation-safety.net/database/1980/801029-0.htm

Three aircraft were involved in modification/testing:

Credible Sport Phase I: modified to YMC-130H configuration, Lockheed Model 382-41C, #4658, A.F. Serial Number 74-1683, Airframe #1, Assigned to the 463 Tactical Air Wing Oct 1977 to Sept 1980. Modified to a YMC-130H configuration for a rescue operation in Iran. With a C-141 in-flight refueling pod, DC-130 type radome. 30 Rockets total (ASROC engines provided by the Navy) pointing forward and downward on the forward and rear fuselage. This was the first airframe modified. It was tested at Duke field Eglin AFB. It flew approximately 4 test flights there. This airplane crashed at a demonstration on Oct 29, 1980. The airframe was buried at Duke field Eglin AFB after the crash.

Credible Sport Phase II: modified to YMC-130H configuration, Lockheed Model 382-41C, #4669, A.F. Serial Number 74-1686, Airframe #2, Assigned to the 463 TAW September 1976 to 1980. Modified to YMC-130H, 4950 Tactical Air Wing November 1982 to October 1987. Modified for a rescue operation in Iran. Modified same as 74-1683. This airframe was used for experimental testing purposes at Warner Robins AFB. These test provided the foundation and prototype testing for the Combat Talon II aircraft. This airframe was de-modified and given to the Warner Robins museum in March 1988.

Credible Sport Phase III: modified to YMC-130H configuration, Lockheed Model 382-41C, #4667, A.F. Serial Number 74-2065; Airframe #3 was assigned to the 463 TAW Oct 1977 to Sept 1980. This airframe was never completely modified to YMC-130H configuration and was used as a test platform for form fit and function of parts. The Rockets were never fitted. This airframe was de-modified in November 1984 at Lockheed Ontario. Painted in lizard camouflage scheme February 1988. Oct. 1991 assigned to the 773AS to present day. http://www.netwrx1.com/skunk-works/v08.n097

[gingernut]

Seem to remember a pioneer from Altrincham, Cheshire, landed a light aicraft on top of Helvelyn, in the Lake District, back in the 30's


edit - it was an Avro Alpha in 1924. Some guy landed it here (http://www.lakedistrictwalks.com/heltopq.html)

[Curious Pax]

Had a school trip to Cosford Aerospace Museum in about 1979 (roughly). On arrival an RAF type, seemingly oblivious to any stereotypes, and with a handlebar moustache greeted us with the phrase 'come this way, we've a bit of a flap on', and shepherded us outside to witness the arrival of VC10 G-ARVM on its last flight. It did a go-around to assess things, and then skimmed over the trees near the threshold to do a full stop landing towards the railway embankment. Not sure of the dimensions involved, but we were told that it was the shortest runway a VC10 had ever landed on, and (memory is a bit more hazy about this) it was the VC10 chief pilot's last flight. Impressive sight.

[mr Q]

Flew into and out and out of Belfast City on the A321 recently.. Are there any special operational procedures or restrictions for that aircraft at Belfast City??
Found the City Airport ( to my surprise) to be better and more convenient than Belfast Internatinal even though I was going to the north west of Ireland (Derry ) !!!

[justcoolen]

AFR used to fly the Concorde into BGSF Greenland.

[OverRun]

Cosford aerodrome - the runway is 1149m which is about 3770 feet, and one final wash of underpants for the VC10 crew.

[reverserunlocked]

Speaking of Cosford, getting the 707 G-APFJ was a bit of a bottom tightener, as it were....

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/118798/L/

I guess that a VC10 would have a lower landing speed than a 707 thanks to those massive flaps?

[HZ123]

I have not noticed on this elongated thread VC10 A40-AB into Brooklands.

[2FLYEU]

Probably Some of you remember TACA 737-300
Landing on a grass field 6000 feet.......Dual engine Flame out.



"During descent from FL350 for an IFR arrival to New Orleans, the flight crew noted green and yellow returns on the weather radar with some isolated red cells, left and right of the intended flight path. Before entering clouds at FL300, the captain selected continuous engine ignition and activated engine anti-ice systems. The crew selected a route between the 2 cells, displayed as red on the weather radar. Heavy rain, hail and turbulence were encountered. At about FL165, both engines flamed out. The APU was started and aircraft electrical power was restored while descending through abou FL106. Attempts to wind-mill restart the engines were unsuccessful. Both engines lit-off by using starters, but neither would accelerate to idle; advancing the thrust levers increased the EGT beyond limits. The engines were shut down to avoid a catastrophic failure. An emergency landing was made on a 6060 feetx120 feet grass strip next to a levee without further damage to the aircraft. Investigation revealed that the aircraft encountered a level 4 thunderstorm but engines flamed out, though they had met the FAA specs for water ingestion. The aircraft had minor hail damage; the #2 engine was damaged from overtemperature.
PROBABLE CAUSE: "A double engine flameout due to water ingestion which occurred as a result of an inflight encounter with an area of very heavy rain and hail. A contributing cause of the incident was the inadequate design of the engines and the FAA water ingestion certification standards which did not reflect the waterfall rates that can be expected in moderate or higher intensity thunderstorms."

Any One with any pictures of it?

[Brymon Dasher]

There is a promotional film made by De-Havilland of a DHC-5 Buffalo landing and then taking off (not a touch and go) from a baseball field in a city. Very impressive! The DHC-5 also does a mean short landing at Farnborough! "Bit late on the round out, Hoskins!"

[dusk2dawn]

2FLYEU, I seem remember an issue of Flight Intl where that incident was fetured on front page. Maybe your local library can help you.

Most remarkable thing was that they flew it out of the field afterwards.

[2FLYEU]

...Dusk 2 dawn Well dude.. I think both of them are worth of reports and news,
Any way Imagine ur self flying no engines out of wx and flying to a grass strip ?
If u have flight Intntl mag copys mor than wl come !!!!!!!!!

Happy Landings!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fokkerwokker]

Felt a little smug taking a Pembroke into Denham. Smile wiped off face when I saw a Caribou parked there shortly after.:rolleyes:

[Xeque]

In the 1970's (I can't remember which year but it was one when everything froze solid) I was a pax in the Brymon from Newquay to Heathrow on my way to catch the overnight QANTAS to Bahrain where I then lived and worked.

On short final it started snowing heavilly and we diverted to Bournemouth. Bournemouth was the only major airfield left open in the south of England and just about everything was going there.

As we got out of the 'Hark the Herald' (it was a Christmas flight) a Laker DC10 arrived, smoke billowing from its brakes as they just made it in.

I believe that Bournemouth has never in its history had so many large aircraft on the ground at any one time. Airstairs were at a premium and some pax on larger aircraft had to wait for hours before they could disembark.

I heard a story (unconfirmed) that, in one case, ladders had been used to get people off.

I managed to get out of LHR the following day on an MEA via Beruit. We were de-iced right up until the last moment before pushback and when we took off it was down a corridor with snow banked either side of the runway higher than the cabin windows.

[paulc]

I have seen the video of the BAC1-11 arriving at Brooklands - very impressive short field landing.

[Fokkerwokker]

>>I have seen the video of the BAC1-11 arriving at Brooklands <<

Colleague of mine, Dick King, took the Omani VC10 into there. That must have been interesting to observe!:ooh: :uhoh: :ooh: :eek: :eek:

[HZ123]

On an aside what was the singel engined a/c that flew into LHR some years ago in the early hours and was parked underneath the wing og the LY (ELAL) 747 - 100 on the Kilos stands.

[Inverted81]

Didn't they land a vulcan in a tiny field/tarmac bit at newark air museum? UK?

http://www.flyingzone.co.uk/images/aircraftphotos/vulcanlandchute.jpg

[HZ123]

Does anyone remember or have pictures of the 4 engined jet that mistakenly flew into Northolt in the 60's. Might it have been a B707. A very interesting thread thisfor us closet anoraks .

[The SSK]

Does anyone remember or have pictures of the 4 engined jet that mistakenly flew into Northolt in the 60's. Might it have been a B707

Pan Am 707 in 1960. Lots of information on this, and other big jets which have landed or almost landed at Northolt here (http://www.northolt.biz)

[bentbanana]

An Ilyushin 62 (DDR-SEG "Lady Agnes" of INTERFLUG) landed on a grass strip of 900m at a place called Stollin-Rhinow (EDOR) some 60km outside Berlin in October 1989 and is now preserved there

[hanginthere]

Pictures of above event here :

http://www.flugsport-stoelln.de/html/historie.html

[G-BBAE]

A BY757 at Blackpool was very suprisising to see, and a L1011 tristar at RAF Linton was also a nice shock.

[IanH]

Blimey, the IL62 landing in the field was quite impressive !

From my youth and recent times ...

RAF Northolt - Saw 2 x C141 Starlifter land there ( not on the same day ! ) ... bringing Ronnie Reagans cars in apparently ...

More recently .... a couple of USAF B757's have been in ....

[Pub User]

G-BBAE


About 20 years ago a very senior Concorde Training Captain landed one at Linton for his son's graduation.

[lead zeppelin]

At Meigs Field in downtown Chicago (now closed by an idiotic mayor), a 727 once landed there - I've searched the internet for photo's, but can't find any. If anyone has info or pics of this landing, please post it.

[Lil' Pilot]

I really like this photo of an E145 landing ar Araras, Brazil. Runway of 1150m.

E145 @ SDAA (http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=668080&WxsIERv=RW1icmFlciBFUkotMTQ1&WdsYXMg=UmlvLVN1bA%3D%3D&QtODMg=QXJhcmFzIChTREFBKQ%3D%3D&ERDLTkt=QnJhemls&ktODMp=TWF5IDI5LCAyMDA0&BP=0&WNEb25u=QW5kcukgRHVhaWxpYmk%3D&xsIERvdWdsY=UFQtU1BK&MgTUQtODMgKE=UHJpb3IgdG8gbGFuZGluZyBpbiBhIHNob3J0IHJ1bndheSB mb3IgdGhpcyBwbGFuZSAoMzc3NWZ0IC8gMTE1MG0pLiBUaGUgcGlsb3QgbmV lZHMgdG8gdG91Y2ggZXhhY3RseSBpbiB0aGUgYmVnaW5uaW5nIG9mIHRoZSB ydW53YXku&YXMgTUQtODMgKERD=MTY1MA%3D%3D&NEb25uZWxs=MjAwNC0wOS0yMQ%3D%3D&ODJ9dvCE=&O89Dcjdg=MTQ1MDgz&static=yes&sok=V0hFUkUgIChhaXJjcmFmdF9nZW5lcmljIExJS0UgJ0VtYnJhZXIlJykg QU5EIChjb3VudHJ5ID0gJ0JyYXppbCcpICBvcmRlciBieSB2aWV3cyBERVND&photo_nr=83&size=L) :cool:

[G-BBAE]

Landed a Concorde or an L1011?

[Pub User]

Sorry, a Concorde.

[Flypuppy]

Strathallan airfield hosted not only a Comet 2c but also a Shackleton. Both flew in but both were taken out by truck

Strathallan from the air
http://www.fototime.com/{6F332945-3D0A-4AEF-8162-B900961625C1}/picture.JPG

Comet 2c (ex 51 Sqn)
http://www.fototime.com/{09E6901E-2B80-4A8C-989F-E73A1126D4AC}/picture.JPG

Shackleton T4 (ex RAE Farnbourgh)
http://www.fototime.com/{64F17E16-F3D1-4799-90D8-F27E66135E22}/picture.JPG

I can vaugely remember a BAe 146, from Air UK I think, that was flown into and out of Cumbernauld for an air display in the late 1980's. Anyone got any pictures of that?

[G-BBAE]

Have you ever known Linton to take in a Tristar before, i remember one flying low over my house 5 years ago but has a Tristar visited on other times.

[aviate1138]

posted 7th December 2004 10:07 ___ _ _ __ _
Fokkerwokker talking about
Brooklands...

"Colleague of mine, Dick King, took the Omani VC10 into there. That must have been interesting to observe!"

I thought it was Rex Hennebury and Paul Richards?

Aviate 1138

[timzsta]

Tristar into Southend a few years ago to be broken up for spares. Must have been interesting.

There was also an A300 once which apparently burst some tyres during the landing roll out.

[Dan Winterland]

When the VC10 at Brooklands landed there, the LDA was in the order of 1800'.

[windy1]

B52 into Duxford before the runway got chopped for the M11. But then it didn't ever come out again! Similar story for the Vulcan.

747, DC10, L1011,777 operate regularly out of Marshalls 1950m.

[galaxy flyer]

Shortest, for me, in the C-5--Barking Sands, Hawaii, 6006 feet or just over 1820m. Have to be on your game with a load or just be ready to backstroke. Kodiak, AK is far more interesting due to weather and winds, about 7000. We do touch and goes on 7000 feet. C-5s have been into Henry Post AAF, Ft Sill, OK, 5000 feet on a not very regular basis. No load, in or out, just load training.

GF

[D.Lamination]

:p

Another link to the QF747 in tiny Longreach (Birth place of QF 16/11/1920(?))

http://www.longreach.qld.gov.au/resources/747_2434%20a%20.jpg :ok:

[chopperpilot47]

Just before the last election President Bush visited my airport at KLNS in two 757's. they used runway 26 which has a land and hold short operation. I think as a joke ATC asked the 757 to land and hold short of 31. (3700' available) The airport was closed of course for the visit. The pilot said no problem and did exactly that followed by the second 757 who did the same thing. I didn't think that was possible.

Regards,

Chopperpilot47

[dusk2dawn]

757-200 PW2040, REK (Reykjavik, Iceland) RWY 01 :
TODA 5141' TOW= 215.800 Lbs
LDA 4879' MLW = 201.900 Lbs
That's fully factored so in real life 3700' to a full stop or turn-off should pose no problem.

mutt can probably beat this ;)