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Somedaymaybe
24th Aug 2004, 12:11
Apologies for the lateness of this post however at the weekend Sat 21st a First Choice airways airbus A320 G-OOAR Had a Birdstrike on rotation out of CWL.

Just as the Aircraft rotated there was a huge bang and a mass of feathers and the usual red stuff!!, the aircraft went into a hold over the airport and then returned 20mins later.

No-one onboard was hurt, mostly just shocked from the bang. Once the aircraft was on the ground it was inspected by the CWL engineer.

Damage to A/C was a dented fan blade, and a new paint scheme inside the engine cowling!

Poor Bird!!

Regards
SDM

Capt. Inop
24th Aug 2004, 16:49
Yep, poor bird, when is the funeral?

Sorry but where i am flying birdstrike is not at all a uncommon
experience..
Usaly you just throttle down the engine that sucked the bird in,
or shut it down if heavy vibrations is present.
Then land the aircraft and let the mech`s check the engine..

RRAAMJET
24th Aug 2004, 17:33
A dead mangled one

Germstone
24th Aug 2004, 19:51
i remember many moons ago an emerald 748 suffering a birdstrike @ lpl

think it may have been a herring gull dammed big those scouser gulls


totally fragged the radome and weather radar also lots of feathers and goo on the fwd pressure bulkhead dont think the injuneers were impressed :-)

Notso Fantastic
24th Aug 2004, 20:14
It's funny how the '!!!' are added to boring reports to try and instil a sense of excitement and urgency!! Still doesn't make a rather unexciting incident something to go 'wow!!' about.

Yawn.

Germstone
24th Aug 2004, 21:42
not so fantastic


i am sure there are a many number of aviators who would disagree with your statement birdsrikes are by there nature a fact of life in aviation and also a significant hazard.

But to play them down as you have and make them sound like a non event is way of the mark

multiple bird strikes have been known to bring down some preety large aircraft i seem to recall a usaf 707 possibly awacs not sure

so they are significant by there nature and a hazard to avoid if at all possible

Terror_is_firmer
24th Aug 2004, 22:08
What sort of bird was it?

Knowing Cardiff it was proberbly a Sea Gull. Good to see Scarecrow is doing his job...........;)

EGAC_Ramper
24th Aug 2004, 22:10
Indeed your right,I believe it was in Alaska when the 707 AEW a/c for the USAF was rotating and just off the ground was hit multiple times resulting in the total loss off the aircraft and all crew aboard.After that the USAF introduced new bird control methods to make their bases safer.Just a pity such an incident has to occur to bring this to light.


Regards

onthebuses
24th Aug 2004, 22:21
I agree with Notso, Yawn....

I had a birdstrike with a pigeon on the way home tonight in the car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Terrible mess.. I had to declare mayday and head to the nearest 24 hr garage.. All was okay though and I didn't have to shut anything down.. Sorry for not reporting it sooner..

Notso's past postings are proving to make a valid point..

Come on guys sort it out, with threads like this, how long is it before the true aviators stop coming here??

OTB:ok:

lomapaseo
24th Aug 2004, 23:22
So Fantastic

Wellat least give him credit for expressing condolences to the deceased

Sir George Cayley
25th Aug 2004, 07:42
I hope the the posters poo pooing the significance of bird strikes never loose a loved one due to catastrophic impact with birds.

It's a serious business taking up a lot of the AAIB, CAA, UKFSC, DfT and AOA's time money and resource. The UK has some particular hazards with regard to bird strike risks. It's only due to hard work and a fair dose of luck that a big crash has not yet occured.

The are no such things as Sea Gulls but there are lots of differing types of Gull. Coastal airports like BPL, LPL CWL and SEN are obvious sites of increased concern, but with food sources such as tips and particular agricultural methods prevalent across the UK no where is immune.

Bird strike reports are now mandatory for UK reg public transport flights and there's been a 3 fold increase in filing.

Sir George Cayley

Big Tudor
25th Aug 2004, 11:12
Not sure the crew of the Nimrod that crashed on take off from Kinloss following a multiple bird strike would agree with NotSo's low priority rating for bird strikes.
Although, in the context of this incident, the seriousness of birdstrikes can vary dramtically.

bacardi walla
25th Aug 2004, 15:06
Are we sure this FCA minibus didn't have a mid air with a Canadian biz jet registered C-GULL :confused:

mr Q
25th Aug 2004, 15:37
Reminds me of the old story where the flight crew routinely reported after becoming airborne the presence of seagulls adjacent to the only runway. The tower duly acknowledged and added they would send a fire truck out. Back came a startled message from the flight deck clarifying that they had only reported seeing gulls and had not at any time seen any seagulls on fire......
What airport what airline ????

tall and tasty
25th Aug 2004, 16:15
The additional colour added to the SAGA colour scheme of the FCA livery!

Garf25
25th Aug 2004, 17:17
It was a seagull, and didn't do any damage.

Luckily it caught the intake on the way in which softened the impact. Should it have been six inches further in it would have done substantial damage.

Its interesting to see that this post has been classed as "uninteresting". I for one am glad it ended up "uninteresting", even though I ended up working a 14hr as a result of that gulls fate!! :ok:

2close
26th Aug 2004, 00:25
Not in the same scale of things that you guys are involved in but I recall being 30' off the deck in a PA28 on a short strip when a bloody big flock of 'Canadian biz-jets' decided it was time to migrate en masse from the upwind end.

Most definitely concentrated the mind, level off, turn and hope their RoC was better than mine. Still here.

Sick Squid
26th Aug 2004, 00:48
"Airliner Hits Bird. Shock Horror. All Survive. No drama."

"Woman Fails To Complete Race"

"Teenager Seen Kissing Girl On Polo Field"

"Man Has Affair With Married Woman, Guide Dog Gets Titbits"

This thread is sooooo locked...