Instructor training

[Spitfire-970]

I am thinking of doing the instructor rating. Does anyone have any recommendation for where are the best places - any views on training abroad (including costs) ?

[go]

hi did mine in florida cost 6000.oousd plus exam costs..allin all including accom i spent about 5000 gbp inc flights and everything...did it in five weeks start to finish and really enjoyed the course and had a nice holiday as well..this was done at eft in florida,,email me at [email protected] goodluck

[Thrustcommander]

Andrewsfield, Essex, recommended for speed and price.

[clear prop!!!]

Have been told by a couple of clubs that they would not look favourably on an instructor trained in the US.

Frankly this is typical of the short sightedness of those who have never flown there or experienced the quality of training over there.

Given a level playing field I too would go for the US, as you will get things done in the time and within budget, However, if you want to work here perhaps you should train here.

With regards to recommendations here...I'll tell you in a couple of weeks!! http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/spineyes.gif

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[Luke SkyToddler]

Ditto for Andrewsfield - cheap, fast, high quality, nice people, no pissing about.

[Kermit 180]

The NZ dollar is kind to you lot at the moment. I don't know how your schools would view a NZ instructor rating but you could do it here for $6000NZ (2,000BPS). Nice country too!

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clear prop...you say that uk schools not happy about being trained in the us...did they say why?? do they think the training is differant or easier or somthing..its abit worrying as iv just done my fir in florida and we followed the jaa sylabus and were examined by a caa examiner ,,,which schools are you talking about?

[Noggin]

Not sure how a FI Course can be fast. It has 30 hours flying and 125 hours ground school thats 155 hours wherever you do it, unless someone is cutting corners, in which case nobody will employ you.

[Luke SkyToddler]

That is true Noggin - but there's a massive difference when you've got small numbers of people on the course, and you have a full time instructor devoted to the FI flying. In more than a few places, you seem to have to wait on the CFI to finish the 10 million other more important things he's got to do and the 15 other BCPL/FI students he's got to fly with, before he can maybe squeeze in a quick flight with you once every couple of days.

Kermit - nice idea but other countries' instructor ratings certainly aren't good enough to instruct in Britain old bean - goodness gracious me, how insolent to suggest such a thing! I had 500 hours instructing on a kiwi FI ticket when I started working here (including a fair bit of CPL and advanced training), it was no use to me at all, under JAA rules I had to go and do a minimum of 16 hours of dual instructor training and another flight test before I could even get issued with a basic restricted euro FI rating (ie the equivalent of a kiwi 'c' cat under supervision). Even then, you have to do another bloody 100 hours under supervision and sign off 25 solo students just to get your old privileges back!

Apparently I need yet more dual training before I can go night instructing, even though I've got more night instructing time than anyone else in the club. Same deal with aeros, instrument training and CPL training ... and god help you if you want to teach multi engine or proper IFR :rolleyes: You spend 80% of your time doing ****ing JAR paperwork, the average instructor gets paid less than a Tesco's checkout girl, all the jet jobs are getting handed out to wet-behind-the-ears 200 hour teenagers ... and they wonder why there's a shortage of instructors in this country!

Rant rant rant ... rave rave ... froth froth froth ... right that's it I feel better now. (I love it really, but it's just been one of thoooose days ...)

[This message has been edited by Luke SkyToddler (edited 10 June 2001).]

[DB6]

Try Halfpenny Green - sorry Wolverhampton etc etc Flight Centre and ask for Mike Robins. He did mine one-to-one with about two sorties a day, which is about all you want really with the other stuff to do, and I think he only does max. two students at once. Very good he is.
Cheers DB6
PS Hope he's still there, I did it 2 years ago.
PPS I wouldn't do it abroad. 1) I've read all the debate about UK v US training but from personal experience I can tell you that some of the PPLs I've had to convert after US training didn't have a CLUE 2) Often you'll find that during your course you'll either get offered a job at the same school or at least get some good grapevine info, especially now on the runup to summer.

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[squeakyunclean]

Did my course with Neil Voce at Leic in '91. Completed in five weeks part-time, flying weekends and evenings. Excellent course and a very nice chap to fly with.

[The mole]

Try TG Aviation at Manston and ask for Clive Elesmore - v. good.

If anyone you know out there is after some weekend instructing on a more or less permanent basis then my mob are looking. Call me on 07974 688810 (not TG Aviation, btw)

[Spitfire-970]

Thanks for all the replies - much appreciated !!!

[Airprox]

I did my instructor rating with Steve Marples at Newcastle. Very good training at reasonable prices. He had a Slingsby T67B at the time. Great fun.

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[AV8 consultants]

Come to sunny Western Australia. It rains (if you are lucky) 20 days a year!
It will cost AUS$ 8500 and takes 6 weeks. You can convert your JAA licence easy too. Try the Aviation Institute of Australia
www.aviationinst.com.au (http://www.aviationinst.com.au)
They specialise in poms!

[Isogonal]

Hi

Don't do it with Mssr. Sharp. He may still be at White Waltham. I had the experiance and I'm sad to say that he is possibly the worst instructor/person I have ever had the misfortune to meet.

On the otherhand I can very much recommend the guy's at Southend Flying Club.

Cheers!

[TEMP0+TSRAGR]

Isogonal - I agree re. Mssr. Sharp, stay WELL CLEAR !!!!

[Luke SkyToddler]

AV8 you may claim to specialise in Poms but that website of yours doesn't say anything about JAA approvals ... could you please clarify, are you doing training for the JAA or CASA instructor rating?

It's all well and good if it's a JAA rating they're ending up with, but with all respect an Oz FI rating is about as much use to Brits as a condom machine in the Vatican, they're still going to have to pay for a JAA course on their return home.