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SwanFIS
18th Jun 2004, 15:03
The June GASIL is out

http://www.caa.co.uk/publications/publicationdetails.asp?id=1343

Evo
18th Jun 2004, 15:10
Interestingly...

The benefits of a UK IMC rating abroad

We regularly remind pilots that while an IMC rating is a very desirable qualification to hold, it is not valid outside
UK airspace. However, as some eagle-eyed pilots have pointed out after reading issue 1 of 2004, it does confer
one advantage in foreign airspace.
Schedule 8 to the Air Navigation Order 2000 lays down that the holder of a UK issued private pilots licence
without any additional ratings may not fly out of sight of the surface. This, as explained in the last issue, applies
wherever the pilot may be flying. However, if the pilot holds a valid IMC (or Instrument) rating, that restriction does
not apply. This means that in the airspace of a state which does not require PPL holders to remain in sight of the
surface (for example France), the holder of a UK issued PPL which contains a valid IMC rating may indeed fly out
of sight of the surface.


Does this mean it is official, have they got it wrong, or is it still a gray area?

FNG
18th Jun 2004, 19:54
Tut tut, Evo, you have been neglecting your legal studies. The IMC does indeed allow the holder to fly out of the sight of the service anywhere (subject always to local rules). Nothing grey about it, except the clouds.

ICAO does not require PPLs to stay in sight of the surface. The unadorned UK licence does impose this requirement, but the restriction is removed if you hold an IMC.

rustle
19th Jun 2004, 07:44
I know at least three ladies who might disagree with you FNG ;)

Aussie Andy
19th Jun 2004, 08:39
ICAO does not require PPLs to stay in sight of the surface this is true in US and Australia too... interesting!!!

Andy (booked to start IMC rating in Sep, this time for sure!)

IO540
19th Jun 2004, 13:22
and France and Germany as far as I know... any offers towards a more complete list?

Aussie Andy
8th Dec 2004, 23:48
This topic seems to have been resurrected in "another place" - see http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1930

There's nothing new in the world, eh!

Andy :ok: