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Easy226
26th Apr 2004, 18:29
Hi everyone,
As above, wondering how many hours flying, P1, do you have to do a year to keep your JAR PPL valid. I heard it was in the region of 12.....?
Many Thanks
Dan

ETOPS773
26th Apr 2004, 18:52
11 hours P1,1 hour with an instructor,12 take offs and landings in the 2nd year last time I checked.

BEagle
26th Apr 2004, 19:32
The question related to maintaining a licence, not a SEP Class Rating.

Please see LASORS - it's available FREE OF CHARGE from the CAA at http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/LASORS.PDF

Pinga
26th Apr 2004, 19:35
Read BEagles post above and also his post on 25 January in this link:

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116698&highlight=revalidation

Tiger_ Moth
26th Apr 2004, 22:56
In the first 12 months after license issue it doesn't matter what you do but in the second 12 months you need 12 hours, 1 of which must be with an instructor. (12 take offs + landings as said)

So person A could fly 500 hours in their first 12 months and 11 in their second and not keep their license valid.

Person B could do no flying in the first 12 months but as long as they had 12 in the second 12 months their license would be valid.

It is a stupid system invented by idiots and crazy people

Easy226
27th Apr 2004, 00:12
Thanks a lot for the replies everyone - thanks for the link to the other thread. What a stupid system!
Many Thanks
Dan

IO540
27th Apr 2004, 09:57
It's a stupid system; various people in the training business have said to me that the lack of required flying in the first 12 months post-PPL is a major factor in people packing it in. People don't fly for a year to save money, and after that they've lost interest and forgotten what the knobs and levers do.

6 hours every year would be a lot better. Whether 6hrs/year is enough to remain current...?

BEagle
27th Apr 2004, 10:05
Quite agree - that's why we're making the forthcoming NPPL revalidation criteria much simpler!

The 12 hours in the fianl 2 year requirement stems, I believe, from a German requirement which they forced the JAA into accepting.

Of course people can always do some flying in the first year and re-validate by a LPC if they wish to save money. I don't know about other FEs, but we've agreed to a fee of £75 for a revalidation LPC - or £100 if combined with an IMC revalidation test.