Kill Thy First Officer

[lone Falcon]

Hello there guys

Just got news from a close friend, well more like a horror story than news realy.

Guess what My friend nearly lost his head today, just b/c his Captain hates him and was in a somewhat bad mood.

This is what happened !!!

This friend of mine flies a Twotter in Tanzania, poor guy pole buddy I cant do much to help ya.

normal procdure twinotter is both crew at their posn before engine start or left engine off when conducting what is called a quick turn around, in this case the Captain shuts the left engine and gets out of the Aircraft while the right engine runs and the F/O cycles the prop every 3 mins.

Now this buddy of mine,after closing the main passenger door walked on the right side of the aircraft while both engines were shutdown( standard procedure) to get into his seat and as he was just passing the prop area the Super Captain cranked the ENGINE !!!

Deliberately trying to chop my buddy's head.

Hey Hey CAPO !! whats wrong with you ??? Now that is a criminal act .

and this captain happens to be the C

:mad:

God Help Thy First Officer

No More

Falcon

[Low-Pass]

Don't know about the Twotter, but in my aircraft, the FO has the best access to the crash axe :E

[dicksynormous]

Whats the problem, during my 4000 hrs as a twotter capt in africa a good whack on the head with a slowly turning feathered prop usually gave the f/o an unfair advantage over the others.

Did more damage to the engine, which is why we started them in fine pitch after a while, f/os are more common than pt6's in africa;) :E :p

[Basil]

2nd engineer started a marine diesel just as I stepped out of the crankcase on the other side of the engine.
Over 40 years ago and I still feel a bit odd when I think of it :ooh:
Remember the sign in RAF hangars? (which, from time to time I've failed to obey)
DON'T ASSUME - CHECK!

[pilotwolf]

Learnt similar lesson many years ago.... if it has an ON switch then someone WILL turn it on while you are in range.

I found out while cleaning a radar antenna when I was in the Merchant Navy... fortunately had a soft landing after being knocked of wheelhouse roof when some idiot decide to turn it on!

[paddygee]

ASSUME...makes an ASS out of U and ME

[broadreach]

Nothing like "Dowty Rotol" imprinted back-to-front on the brow to separate the, er, propellerheads from the infants.

Murphy's and Sod's Laws both state that if it can turn, it will, and at an inconvenient time. Assume nothing. Applies equally to radar antennae, propellers or the car ahead of you. Your friend, Lone Falcon, just learned what "never" means.

Didn't remember Twotters had a F/O door.

[MidnightSpecial]

Yes, Twotters have a F.O. door.

MS

[chuks]

Assuming that your F/O buddy isn't stone deaf, there should have been plenty of time to hear the engine winding up and get out of the way before the prop started rotating, given that the PT-6 uses a free turbine system. With a Garrett-engined aircraft he would have had a problem there.

In any case, who walks through the propeller arc? It just takes an extra second to move outside it, a very good habit to form around any propeller aircraft, given Sod's law.

When I used to work as an automobile mechanic I would take the ignition keys with me anytime I was enmeshed in the mechanical workings after one customer decided to see if my pushings and tuggings under the bonnet had restored life to her rust-bucket. I was not very pleased to find my precious digits coming very close to whizzing bits. Never underestimate human stupidity around machinery.

[ramsrc]

Chuks - Like you said, never underestimate human stupidity.

Many moons ago, while working on a large three phase electrical system I made the mistake of taking the relevant fuses out of the main fusebox and laying them on the top of the box.

Of course, someone came along while I was heading back from the fusebox, and thinking "What are these doing on top?" replaced them. Fortunately, for me I checked everything was isolated before diving in.

Stupidity on both sides :O

Subsequently, the fuses always came out and went into my pocket! Not too comfortable walking around with large lumps of ceramic in your pocket, but better than 480v coursing through your body :ooh:

DON'T ASSUME - CHECK - wise words indeed.

[lamina]

The majority of times I've assumed anything I've been wrong:ooh:

[Jagbag]

It is difficult to believe a captain would do something like that intentionally. So one should not ASSUME the story is 100% fact. Be warned of loose crew room talk.

[406pilot]

hi guys,
im soon going to be a f/o hopefully not for long,anyways looks like u guys have indeed missed the point alltoghether,,to make things a bit clearer here goes.."this particular capt absolutely hates his f/o's guts and they had been exchanging some very unpleasant comments about each other(no crm,no synergy<nil MMI)..so i would suspect this as being an act of manslaughter..just in case u guys r wondering why as to i know of this....obviously frm the lucky f/o who survived...too bad he doesnt pprune..

ps:the sop for this particular operator forbids starting of the engines unless both pilots are in the cockpit

no more 406pilot

[bankrupt]

Come on guys, this was a joke, on the cruel side but a joke.

The Capt was probably just dry cranking the engine, it takes a good while before the prop begins to spin slowly, and without feul it would physicaly not do very much.

As I found out it does tend to get your heart rate up if you are on the receiving side.

cheers

[CDRW]

Never hear of "Dry Cranking" myself, either - My aviation history has a lot of time in Africa, but never had the pleasure to fly a turboprop - went from piston bangers to 737's so maybe am a bit ignormant of these technical terms - but one would have to ask if there is a "Wet Crank" And I can just see Homer saying "That would that be when you use KY??

[dicksynormous]

I would like to reirerate, a smack on the head from a pt6, imho, improved the average performance of any f/o i had on the otter in africa. It wasnt attempted manslaughter it was attempted life enhancement.:E

[Paterbrat]

I see, along the lines of knocking some sense into them. Fair trade I would venture, as in my experiences of a route training captain in darkest A most of the rest of the time they were trying their best to exterminate you in their inimitable fashion.