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WeekendWorrier
9th Apr 2004, 01:07
Just wondering whether anyone knows what proportion of Australian ATCOs are members of Civil Air??? I assume the vast majority would be, but are there some who aren't?
tobzalp
9th Apr 2004, 02:17
There are some who are not.
but...
Civil Air, the Australian Air Traffic Control Association represents over 1100 ATCO's (Air Traffic Controllers), TGOs (Target Generation Officers) and TFDCs (TAAATS Flight Data Coordinators) and other support specialists.
You can do the maths if you want a proportion.
ferris
9th Apr 2004, 03:51
I am an ATCO, Australian, and not a member of Civil Air.
Oh, and I also think that NAS is a load of crap. Is that where this is going? Everyone's just toeing a union line? It's usually weekend warriors who think it's a good idea.
In regards Civil Air; controllers tend to be members for reasons other than left-wing ideals.
WeekendWorrier
9th Apr 2004, 05:38
Oh, and I also think that NAS is a load of crap. Is that where this is going? Everyone's just toeing a union line? It's usually weekend warriors who think it's a good idea.
Ferris,
Relax, mate, I'm not trying to link anyone to anything. It was not a trick question; there was no hidden agenda. I made no mention of NAS. The question is as straightforward as it appears ;)
WW
A fair percentage of ATC's are Civil Air members because if, God forbid, they ever need legal representation, Civil Air will provide the barristers/solicitors etc. This has changed a bit recently though, since the Civil Aviation Authority became Airservices Australia, and is now no longer a Public Service but a Government Business Enterprise. ASA is now profit, not safety driven (despite what crap you may read from them), and Civil Air is the only way ATCO's have a voice in Certified Agreements etc etc.
trafficwas
9th Apr 2004, 12:10
Begs the question.
Are all pilots members of an association?
redsnail
9th Apr 2004, 13:10
No, not all.
I am a member of the AFAP and BALPA.
Capn Bloggs
9th Apr 2004, 14:01
Tobzalp,
You said:
TGOs (Target Generation Officers)
There's only ONE of those; Dick Smith!:D
Ian McKenzie
13th Apr 2004, 08:25
ferris, have you always been paranoid, or is it only since you realised
everyone really is out to get you? :rolleyes:
ferris
13th Apr 2004, 12:16
Who are you? What's your real name? Are you one of the people following me? Did the government send you? Which department? How many of you are there?
I'm awake up to you all, and I'M READY!
tobzalp
13th Apr 2004, 20:56
ferris I think you should post your phone number so he can call you. Also I think that my opinion is null and void because I use an alias.
Ian, just because you're paranoid it doesn't mean that someone is not out to get you! :D :}