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Lump Jockey
11th Mar 2004, 21:10
Saw this picture whilst surfing Airliners.net. What's the deal here? Does anyone have any news on this event? Could this happen?
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/527260/L/

lomapaseo
11th Mar 2004, 21:36
Sounds like a stretch of imagination to associate a picture with a good story.

I wouldn't put too much stock in a photo caption by a plane spotter.

silverhawk
11th Mar 2004, 23:00
what event? Grow up!

747FOCAL
11th Mar 2004, 23:16
It's happened several times and resulted in dead stick landings. You obviously have never heard of Air Canada??? :E

Lump Jockey
11th Mar 2004, 23:26
What's your problem Silverhawk? I posted a very serious question, to which you reply with "grow up"!! You're not the bowser driver are you?!!

Jetdriver
12th Mar 2004, 05:36
The difficulty is you have linked to another website and not properly composed your question. I believe you want to know if airliners take off with insufficient fuel and could that be the case in this picture. The photographer seems to think so according to the caption.

I suppose it is possible though highly unlikely.

What were the circumstances of the flight in question ?

Was it a test flight ? Was it a training flight ? Was there some other circumstance that was not "painfully obvious" to the photographer ? You are assuming "There is a deal here" or that this was "an event". Clarification of the question may help with any answers you seek.

Lump Jockey
12th Mar 2004, 19:33
OK, clarification it may need, but no personal attacks because of that, surely? I mailed the photographer, and he claims the flight was a scheduled return leg to PIK. The a/c did one circuit and landed, then took on more, a lot more, fuel! There was definately a mix up between either the pilots and/or the ground crew, whichever it was, it made the local press!! My question then, in case there's still someone who doesn't understand it, is this:
Is this a probable scenario? Would such a "mix up" occur? Is this incident a one-off, or does it happen more times than we'd like to admit? What sort of action would said pilot likely face if it is true? OK, that's more than one question, granted! I am merely putting the question forward, I am unbiased here, so if my comments have offended, I sincerely apologise beforehand.
TIA,
LJ.

jtr
13th Mar 2004, 09:55
Perhaps some type of dispenation for operation ( or similar MMEL release) had been given which required a circuit for verification before commercial ops (e.g. flap extension under load required) So you will not gas up, but do the circuit, and if all is OK, land, top up and GTFOD.

Sounds far fetched I know, but so does the photo caption

The things above the wings are small vortice which manifest themselves visually as a condensation trail.


Another example of ltierary licence in relation to captions

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/530719/M/