GoldAir

[ComJam]

A friend of mine is considering applying for a job with GoldAir and would appreciate any information about the company that you guys can supply.

Good to work for?

Time away?

etc etc

Thanks

[StressFree]

Gold Hair,

Top Latin old man, I'm most encouraged to see another Pruner using the one true language. You have however made a glaring omission from your list:

'Nil carborundum illegitimi'

I'm no scholar and may be incorrect in my spelling but the meaning is clear to those who know..............

Enjoy



:cool:

[ComJam]

Gold Hair,

Thanks. But if, lets say, a person, couldn't be particularly a*sed looking through the last few years (!) worth of posts, you'd say "NO" .........right?

Cheers :)

[ComJam]

Straight and to the point!

Thanks

Anyone else?

[Weirdo Pepper]

working for them should carry a government health warning. enough said:oh:

[Jetset41]

Weirdo ,
So how long are you out of the institution this time ??

It seems that you aren't able to post messages all the time , so I conclude that you must be in some sort of institution where they keep you locked up , or atleast they should do !!!

And as for governmaet health warnings , I bet you are some fat overweight , beer swilling , chain smoking figure of health !!!!!!!!

Jetset41 .

Ps , some of us enjoy working for a living , how about you ???

[Weirdo Pepper]

I dont smoke half as much as you do. I enjoy the odd pint or two and I dont think 14 stone is fat for a 6 foot weight lifting fanatic.

I cant tolerate you brown nosed blue eyed idiots, maybe one day you will realise what a prat you have been.

Why are you always covering wc´s six?:{

[gerraway with U]

Ladies, ladies,
This constant sniping at every opportunity is getting tedious:bored: and you are certainly not answering the original question

Remember this:

'A friend of mine is considering applying for a job with GoldAir and would appreciate any information about the company that you guys can supply.

Good to work for?

Time away?

etc etc

Thanks'

STICK TO THE POINT and lets have constructive answers to the original question

[Jetset41]

Weirdo , I've said this before , you got it all wrong as usual .
Try again as I haven't smoked for the last 20 yrs . HHHmmm !
And as for brown nosing , grow up , I'm a proffesional person here . Don't need to do that , I'm good enough without that , that's why I was asked to work there !!!!

Gerraway with U .
Firstly I've been with GAI for over 3 yrs , that speaks enough for it's self these days .

You also assume that we know what position your friend is after .

Working there can be hard work in my dept, but never been one to shy away from hard work .

The fact that so many people are PM me as to what it's like suggests that quite a few are seeking work with us . So they are looking to be working with a good company that despite what others are saying is thriving and expanding .
After all we do have 5 LR 45's plus 5 more on order , plus other machinery .

Let your friend come for the interview and lets see if he\she can pass the grade to get in . It's worth it I think .

Jetset41

[gerraway with U]

Jetset 41
You just can't resist sniping back can you- just quit will you, we don't want to hear it.

I don't know Comjam, he's not a friend of mine. I copied his first post to make the point that Weirdo pepper and yourself were not answering his question.

In your last post you said,

'After all we do have 5 LR 45's plus 5 more on order'

Do you not mean surely that you will be replacing your current Lears with new ones if, that is, you do decide to take up the option to do so?

Is it not prudent when speaking to prospective candidates to be as accurate as possible about Goldair's future. Although I am sure that Comjam will appreciate your upbeat attitude whilst talking about your company.

[blueb0y79]

Hi Jetset41 (or anyone else who would like to chip in without having a slanging match)

i was just reading through your posts about Goldair and was wondering if you could supply with some info. Ive just completed my CPL / ME / IR (all first time passes on minimum hours) and feel a victim of my own success. It seems that everywhere i look corporate and airlines are asking for at least 1500 hours. Ive a background in Ops and speak 3 languages too. I MUST have an attractive CV ???? What more can i do to show that im a good pilot already ??? Other than brown nosing my way in or building up masses of hours can you tell me of another way i can find a flying job (or even get a foothold) ????

Any help would be much appreciated.

Look forward to your reply.

blueb0y79

[Jetset41]

Gerraway ,
you say I'm snipping back , read all the posts on Gold Air and you'll find that Weirdo has it in for GAI in a big way, and I'm only replying to his vitreol !!!!
So far I haven't started any threads , just replied to them , just like all others ppruners .
What is wrong in defending my company ?

If I said your wife was crap , you'd reply too , wouldn't you ???

If you don't want to hear it , don't read it .
My guess is that you are one of Weirdo's mates , if he has any !!!

You lot leave us alone , and we''ll do the job of flying clients around the world , and all will be dandy .

Jetset41 .

[bacardi walla]

If these replies are being posted by GAI pilots, all I can say is I would not want to be flown by clowns like this. Get real guys, GAI is no different than any other biz jet operator. It's just WC who is different and so just let him be the way he is and get on with your own life.......:yuk:

[Daifly]

Where are the Mods at the moment?

Initially these posts have all been interesting, but now they're all turning into a bitter attack on WC.

The only person it's reflecting badly on is the poster, not WC. It's just making you look like a bitter former employee... and I don't know whether you fit the bill on that or not? But it's not really helping anyone other than wasting PPRuNe's bandwidth.

Yes, I know I'm wasting the bandwidth by posting this too...!

[4HolerPoler]

Just occasionally they let me slip the surly bonds of Earth.

Folks, these Gold Air threads are, as Daifly points out, a little beyond the pale. In an effort to control the vitriol I'm closing all current Gold Air threads. Please feel free to start a new one but keep it nice or you'll be sinbinned.

I won't be able to make this request a second time.

4HP

[TheOtherSide]

Anyone got any contact details for Gold Air's ops manager. Any chance of a PM answer?

Thanks In Advance

[trainer too 2]

What fleet do they have nowadays?

[TheOtherSide]

Lear 45's and a Hawker 800.

[tempilot]

Any truth in the rumour that thay are considering operating Gulfstreams?

[bacardi walla]

yep and maybe bigger a/c too. think though they'll need some more ops staff to cope with them.........:mad:

[Blu2]

Gulfstream's! Lol, tell us another one.....

[CPTVOR]

Any news from their latest recruitment drive for Lear 45 crew?

Anyone recieved any communication from them?

Cheers

[TheOtherSide]

So no-one able to help me then?

[Vino Collapso]

Anyone got any contact details for Gold Air's ops manager.

I would suggest that telephoning their advertised number and asking for the Ops Manager might work.

p.s. They have just received their new LJ45.

[CPTVOR]

Anyone heard from them yet or know whats happen re latest recruitment?

[Wee Jock Mc Julie]

What is going on at Gold Air, I have just heard that people are haemorrhaging from all areas including ops, sales, pilots etc.

Was considering applying but no one seems to be able to tell me why so many are leaving such a promissing company, am I likely to be going from fat to fire?

Help needed for unsure from Uxbridge.

[bacardi walla]

Maybe if the MD quit, Goldair would be a much better company :(

[Wee Jock Mc Julie]

Why ?

So what about morale and terms and conditions, is there no body able to help a wee Scotish lassie?

[Blu2]

Latest money saving scheme is that they won't consider you unless you're type rated. And if you are, my advice would be to speak to some existing employee's which will probably advise you to stay away. Just make sure to do some research.

Blu

[Wee Jock Mc Julie]

Any ideas on recruitment process, have heard that latest recruits interviewed by telephone and sim checked on Flight sim 5..... but seriousley what is the SP..Ta.

[WEE JOCK MC JIMMY]

I thought Goldair was a happy camp good morale, 1 new Lear 45 just arrived and G4's comming soon.

:O

[bacardi walla]

....and why are all the Ops bods leaving then ? Is it a happy camp !!

[Wee Jock Mc Julie]

Crikey I have received a couple of messages via private mail it seems that people in the know are nervous about posting re Gold.

The consensus is to stay away as most of the gang are digging a tunnel out.

Basically overworked, overtired, underpayed and undervalued oh and so it has been written that if tired staff must try not to look it!!

Sadly I think that I might stay in my nice warm Citation for a bit longer, good luck to the escape commitee.

[Wee Jock Mc Julie]

If I needed further convincing two more have resigned this week, is the Gold turning to a horrible greeny brass? What the haggis is going on?

The word is that there are more to follow...poor old Colonel Klink.

[trainer too 2]

How many pilots work at Gold in total (and how many staff in total?) to give us an idea of the impact.

[bacardi walla]

GDA ops will be outsourced soon so WC won't have anyone to shout at except them, so how long will they tolerate his cr@p :confused:

Funny, he once told me that he didn't need an office full of ops staff, said one person could run it. Well WC, you might just be right and that one person could be you :ok:

[Daifly]

Well if Ops are all being "outsourced" and are looking for jobs, Gama's got some...

[walla]

Bacardi Walla

You must have been in the office at the same time as me on that day..

Or he must still be coming off with that line because i have heard him say it.

He said it on one occasion and we all left GDA very shortly after.


walla:D :D

[bacardi walla]

walla It was shortly after my meeting with him that I realised GDA was not really the place to be. I do remember a mass exodus around that time, funny how things go round in cycles at GDA.... or is that circles :ok:

[Wee Jock Mc Julie]

I do believe another pilot has resigned this weekend and is off to fly an Airbus, is Gold Air the industry holding pool? Perhaps its worth joining after all!

[WEE JOCK MC JIMMY]

So if I'm not mistaken and the rumor mill is correct thats 3 pilots gone in the last month with at least another 4 with interviews pending.

They must be getting desparate about now - maybe they will consider me doing the Flt Sim 5 part of the interview over the telephone.

Hope for a low hours wannabee yet

[superman9999]

pilots are leaving in droves from goldair not to mention the ops staff and i wouldn't be surprised if the cleaners got up and walked out next week.
staff have basically just had enough crap from the MD and his partner.

people that have left-
3 f.o's within the last 3-4 weeks
1 captain within the last 2 weeks
5 pearched ready to leave within the next couple of weeks!!!

Out of less than 20 drivers it says it all

this is not the company you want to work for at the moment!!
GO FIGURE!!!

[Wee Jock Mc Julie]

I thinf its actualy 2 Captains and 5 FOs that have left since xmas and I believe they now have an additional aircraft with another set to arrive within weeks.....

Free suply of Red Bull for the crews will be required and all life as you know it cancelled!!!

[Level_FL310]

Anyone got any thing good to say, considering the pro and cons of Biz jet flying and in particular for them at the moment.:confused:
If you need to send anything privately...please do!!

[airpilot]

Heard that Gold Air have some new aircraft on the fleet and some new faces on the team. Looks to me this company is on the move and going places.

Also heard that they are looking for a couple of crews but not quite sure of the current hours requirements. In the past this was about 1500hrs and not sure if this still stands. Perhaps some one would know. Looks like a good opportunity with a great company.


Cheers

[Fair_Weather_Flyer]

Someone I know sent in their CV a few weeks back. He had 800ish hours, mainly multi. The Chief Pilot's answer? Come back when you have some more hours! Well, look on the bright side, he didn't want a Lear TR and 500 on type.

Corporate flying = loads of hours needed to get in

[cheesycol]

1500+ hours required for Gold Air.

[trainer too 2]

Looks to me this company is on the move and going places.
The last company they said this about was GreggAir :rolleyes:

[Fried_Chicken]

Any truth in the rumour that Gold Air have ordered a pair of Global Express 5000's from Bombardier (reportedly negotiated at the same time the deal for the LJ45XR's was done).

I've also noted that some of the older LJ45s have not been returned to Bombardier now that the LJ45XR fleet is steadily increasing.

FC

[LGW Vulture]

A whole lot more to this story than meets the eye ....... a WHOLE lot more! :ooh:

[ESSEX BOY]

What does that mean :confused:
Are they suppose to be getting them or not ... Or are they going to be managed, or a lease deal from bombardier ?

EB

[Flintstone]

A whole lot more to this story than meets the eye ....... a WHOLE lot more! :ooh:


Pray tell dear boy.

[J32/41]

Pray tell dear boy.

Just what I was going to say.

[LGW Vulture]

Let's just say the Global's are kind of smokescreens - but much bigger happenings might just be around the corner.

[J32/41]

Let's just say the Global's are kind of smokescreens - but much bigger happenings might just be around the corner.

Tell me more, please.

PM if you wish.

Thanks

[bacardi walla]

:bored: and yet another new Ops Manager has joined too :\

[Blu2]

For those who care the new fleet aren't XR's just standard 45's. The original order was for the XR's but was then amended.
The min requirements are 1500 hours although apparently people have been taken on with less, depends which way the winds blowing and how many crew have recently left.
Two globals have been ordered but does that mean anything in real terns? Wait until 2008 and they're sitting on the ramp before getting too excited about fleet expansion.
Blu

[Bobs-Your-Uncle]

anybody out there advise me of the salary for FOs at Gold Air Int?

can't find much info on them other than 6 * Learjet 45.

cheers/Bob

[northernlightIII]

:ok: Why not apply and find out. They are looking for pilots right now !

[PPRuNeUser0215]

If they do, they don't reply as fast as some of their colleagues/competitors ;)

[Miles Magister]

Amex,

I was talking to one of the Gold Air management team only this week and they do try hard to reply to all CVs sent in. If you have not heard then maybe it has gone astray somewhere so I suugest you send another one to their new Chief Training Captain as I know he is sifting through CVs this week.

Good luck

MM

[FLEXJET]

Gold Air is to invest $76 million for a couple of G5000s.
Interesting !

[PPRuNeUser0215]

Thanks Miles Magister for the info and glad to see more guys will get jobs shortly.

Job sorted ;) and I must say, in a flash.
Actually my point was that in this market companies need to have a clear idea of their requirements in terms of pilots and experience.
Then once that's perfectly identified, they must contact the gusy ASAP with an interview date sooner rather than later.
Finally give an answer as soon as they have made a decision and not wait longer than they need to.
It saves wasting resources (incl expensive Sim time) only to come to a situation where the guy has taken something else.
This doesn't apply to Gold Air in particular by the way but to many other companies, GA and Airlines alike.

[airpilot]

Just been looking on the Gold Air wedsite and cannot find any information on the history of the company.

Any Ideas guys and girls would be most welcome.


Cheers in advance