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Dewdrop
11th Feb 2004, 21:03
Anyone know where I can fly in a bulldog, or indeed has anyone seen any for sale in the UK ?

FNG
11th Feb 2004, 21:21
Two places that I know of have Bulldogs available for hire:-

Skysport at Elstree and North Weald have two (one is ex Hong Kong, and wears a very jolly Kung Fu Chop Suey paint scheme, the other is ex RAF/UAS in black and yellow). Skysport are a very pleasant outfit with spick and span machines (I'm biased, they taught me to fly on their Pups and the Hong Kong Bulldog) .

Old Sarum also have a few (ex Botswana, I think, plus ex UAS). Very pleasant airfield, well spoken-of club and school.

Very enjoyable aeroplane. Chunky military feel, pleasant handling (though a bit heavy on the stick when aerobatting), great cross-wind capability, roomy for two with luggage: a reasonable tourer, though thirsty. NB glides like a brick, so good for polishing up your PFLs.

I think that all or most of the ex UAS ones released onto the civvie market have been sold, but shares/complete aircraft come up from time to time. Only problem with some of these is that they may be fatigued to the point of being unfit for aeros, which is a pity. I recall that there was some talk of a pricey spar job to gain some additional aerobatic life, but I'm a bit out of touch with the Bulldog world. Suggest you contact the Beagle Pup and Bulldog Club for the current SP

Megaton
11th Feb 2004, 22:30
http://www.ultimatehigh.co.uk/

cblinton@blueyonder.
12th Feb 2004, 00:22
A very tidy one at Gloster, all the kit on board inc GNS 430 etc fully IFR.

http://www.flybulldog.co.uk/

witchdoctor
12th Feb 2004, 16:57
Try Northern Aviation at Teesside.

They have access to a privately-owned ex-East Mids UAS Bulldog. However, at present it is only available dual to non-group members and costs about £170 ph. Last I heard they were looking at adding another one to the club books, which they would consider hiring solo to certain club members.

Brilliant little planes - good choice.:ok:

Davidt
12th Feb 2004, 19:31
Shares for sale at EGGP (Scouseport) I'll get details if interested

S-Works
12th Feb 2004, 21:17
Derby Air Club have a very nice one for rental and advanced training.

hoey5o
13th Feb 2004, 03:18
An aeroplane I new very well.

My advice however is dont do it.

There are better alternatives out there and top of the list is the YAK 52 which is in a different class altogether and almost certainly cheaper overall. Then there is the Pitts which is definitely cheaper.
The ex RAF Bulldogs are tired and heavy with fatigue. Parts fail far too often and are becoming more expensive to replace by the day. Its also generally far more work to replace a part ( therefore more cost ) as everything else has to come off first.

Cool_Hand
13th Feb 2004, 19:16
There's one at Blackbushe, which, if you have the right amount of hours (100 I think), you can hire/use for about £90/hr.
There's a flyer about it on the notice board in Biggles Bistro.

Flash0710
13th Feb 2004, 20:49
I agree with Hoey chap Yak 52 Ideal:ok:

EEJay
13th Feb 2004, 23:27
Derby Aero Clubs Bulldog does aeros and advanced training at £145 per hour dual. Not sure what the solo rate is.
Check the rate as I may be a little out of date!
A cheaper option might be a Beagle Pup. No VP prop and only 150hp.

greeners
14th Feb 2004, 06:58
Pup 150? No VP prop and no comparison. Cheaper certainly, but so is sitting on the ground. The Bulldog is far more capable and a LOT more fun!