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Static Thrust
8th Dec 2003, 05:03
Greetings fellow Aviators,

I have been watching with interest the various threads regarding GPS when used in GA which have appeared here, and in other forums. It is clear that many of you have valuable views and experiences to share. Over the last six months, in conjunction with the Engineering Department at Lancaster University, I have been researching the whole question of the use of GPS within the GA community. To date, my work has involved looking at studies conducted here in the UK, in the USA and Australia to see what lessons have been learned, and to gain an understanding of where those key issues remain.

Having seen what work has already been conducted in this field, it is clear that there is a vast amount of information locked away with all of us who fly. This information is just not available through the major Flight Safety Databases in the US and UK - the information is just not collected. This is something that the original UK “On Track” study team noted and they used your input direct to the Study Team to great effect. However, “On Track” was looking at the general area of Airspace Infringement in the UK; it did not focus on GPS as a system in its’ own right. Building on the work of such people as David, Mike and Chris on the “On Track” team, Kevin Williams in the FAA and Mike Nendick in CASA (Australia's "CAA"), as well as other work conducted here in the UK and abroad, I am currently refining a survey which is designed to capture some of this "missing data". I have already been in touch with many Flying Clubs and other Organisations who have kindly offered to assist in this work. Nigel Everett very kindly suggested I use "On Track" as a method of reaching a wider range of GA pilots – people like you!

So, would you like to join forces with myself, Lancaster University, the CAA, FAA, CASA, GASCo, Cranfield, the RAeS and many, many others in the flying community to make a significant contribution to improving our understanding of the strengths - and weaknesses - of GPS? If so, now is your chance to make a real difference!

As with "On Track", any contributions will be treated in the STRICTEST CONFIDENCE. Indeed, if you wish, you could set up a special e-mail account just to ensure I can contact you, but still preserve your anonymity. Otherwise, just lift the questionnaire when is complete and available and post it back anonymously – the choice is yours! All information gathered will be processed by me alone and only summary data will be used in the final Report. Everyone, including the CAA, are keen to understand this major system better - and to better understand how we actually use it. ABSOLUTE CONFIDENTIALITY is seen by all as the key way to gather that information, not to prosecute, but to ensure that future systems, legislation, training and guidance can be provided to meet GPS users where they are today. A good example of this proactive work is the CAA GA Safety Sense Leaflet 25 “Use of GPS” issued last year and which I commend to you.

Further information will appear at the old “On Track” website
http://www.flyontrack.co.uk/ regarding this important work. However, if you/your club/your fellow aviators are keen to make a difference, please e-mail me at the following address:-

[email protected]

Do take the time to get in touch. It is rare to be able to “make a difference” – but you can and will. The questionnaire will not be onerous; but the information you provide will help to make flying that bit safer for us all. I look forward to hearing from you soon. Until then, “Fly Safely” and remember to visit http://www.flyontrack.co.uk/ !!

Regards,

Chris Morshead

dublinpilot
8th Dec 2003, 05:27
Chris,

Why not put the survey on line somewhere...even a word document we could download and complete and mail back to you.

Regards,
dp

Static Thrust
8th Dec 2003, 05:36
dp,

Many thanks for your prompt response. I hope to use the "On Track" website as a "host" for an electronic document - though I will also see if I can do the same here. Myself and my colleagues in the States and Oz are working on the questionnaire as we speak and I hope to refine that to its final version over the next few days.

If you wish, drop us an e-mail at [email protected] and I will let you know when/where it is available. Or else, just “watch this space” as they say!

Cheers, Chris

Static Thrust
12th Dec 2003, 05:14
Greetings!

Just a note to thank all those who have been in touch via [email protected] or other means. Please do consider joining the rapidly expanding team.

It is hoped that a page will shortly be available on the Lancaster Uni website to give you more details - I will let you know when that is available (but you know what computers are like!).

Work is progressing well on the Survey form and this should be complete in a week or so - I will let you know when this is available for you, and how you can get hold of it. AOPA UK will also host an article in the next edition of "General Aviation".

So, go on, get in touch and do your bit to make it safer for us all out there!

Regards, Chris

Static Thrust
22nd Dec 2003, 23:48
Greetings All,

Thank you to all who have responded most positively since my last Post.

Just to let you know that the Project Website is now up and running and can be found at http://members.aol.com/ukgpsresearch/index.htm Please do visit the Site and encourage all those you know to do the same! If you are still undecided over joining in with this work, please do consider the part you, and those you know, could play in this work. The more contributions, the better the data gathered!

Your time in reading this Post is much appreciated and I hope to hear from you soon! As ever, do feel free to contact me via this Site, or by e-mail at [email protected].

Regards,

Chris Morshead
UK GPS Research Project

bar shaker
22nd Dec 2003, 23:52
*edit as now sorted*

Static Thrust
23rd Dec 2003, 00:20
Cheers BS!

Somehow the full stop after the URL became part of the URL!

I've edited the Post and it works now!

Regards, Chris

bar shaker
23rd Dec 2003, 00:30
No probs Chris. Although I rarely fly GpA these days I'll help if i can and suspect that most others will too.

Good luck with the project.

Bluebeard777
23rd Dec 2003, 01:53
Your complexity hypothesis is all too plausible. Also, a malfunction of the multi-task unit will potentially disable all its functions, whereas with independent modules the pilot should generally only have to deal with loss of one function per malfunction.

IO540
23rd Dec 2003, 02:57
One would hope that a combined unit would be more reliable that individual instruments. The reliability of GA avionics generally is dreadful, compared with ordinary consumer electronics.

But what's the context of this survey? It must be PPL-level flight primarily. Most IFR pilots use GPS already, think nothing of it, and don't get into these "is GPS good or evil" debates.

In which case I think the GNS430 is a somewhat strange animal. It is a complex product designed very much for IFR flight, for the U.S. market where there are (reportedly) about 200,000 private IR pilots (that’s many many times more than in the whole of Europe). A GNS430 is the last thing I would put in a mainly-VFR plane. There are much nicer and much cheaper alternatives with a big screen to aid situational awareness, e.g. the KMD150. A GNS430, fitted, is about 1/3 of the value of the average plane available to a UK PPL!

I cannot help thinking that the main reason for fitting a GNS430 in such a plane is that its integral radio/ILS saves panel space, and the avionics shop makes a nice fat margin on the supply and fitting!

It's little use discussing such a product in the PPL context. Of course the average PPL will be totally out of his/her depth with something which needs a 300 page manual plus a 1-2 day ground course to cover its functionality (much of which is purely IFR). I fly with a KLN94/KMD550 (functionally very similar but a much bigger screen) so am not speaking out of ignorance.