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330
29th Mar 2001, 22:51
Thought this might be interesting and a bit useful. what rules of thumb do you use or know.

Danish Pilot
29th Mar 2001, 23:09
Is it legal...? And is it safe..!

Double your throttle, double your trouble...

2Donkeys
30th Mar 2001, 00:13
OK... start with the simple ones ;) Bank angle required for a rate one turn 7+(IAS/10)

-2Donkeys

3 putt
30th Mar 2001, 02:41
Rate o' descent req'........1/2 i.a.s
(Ball park for slipping down ils)
or 5x g.s,or autopilot armed

[This message has been edited by 3 putt (edited 29 March 2001).]

Lurk R
30th Mar 2001, 05:54
This was asked about 2 months ago and one of the interesting urls was:

http://www.flightinfo.com/html/rules_.shtm

Checkboard
30th Mar 2001, 10:50
Have a look at Thumb Rules (http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/Forum12/HTML/004544.html) from Dunnunder & Godzone

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Baggy
2nd Apr 2001, 19:30
One cup rice, two cups water...

Dr Feelgood
3rd Apr 2001, 01:04
Required rate of climb against climb gradient. Gradient x groundspeed = Required rate of climb.
Ex. 6.6 x 120 = 790 fpm.

ShyTorque
3rd Apr 2001, 02:36
No wazzing when the boss is looking.

Oh, and max drift = wind speed / groundspeed in n.m. per minute.

[This message has been edited by ShyTorque (edited 02 April 2001).]

basil fawlty
3rd Apr 2001, 04:10
top of descent point- (flightlevel x 3) + 10 miles. eg FL350, (35x3)+10 = 115 miles.
B747 fuel requirements- estimated flight time to destination x 12 (-100), 11 (-200/300), 10 (-400) + your diversion requirement + 2500kg taxi/APU allowance.
These always work out to within a % or so of the computer generated plans value. Nice to know!

Genghis the Engineer
3rd Apr 2001, 10:48
If not at half take-off speed by 1/3 of runway length start worrying. If not airborne by 2/3 runway length, abort.

Always assume that anybody flying a Piper or Cessna can't see you.

Never assume that you'll be given anything better than a FIS, no matter how much you beg.

Any aircraft designed in the USA will need the wing re-inforcing for UK approval.

Any aircraft designed in France will need the flying controls strengthening before UK approval.

Any aircraft designed in Germany will need to lose about 30kg before UK approval.

Any military customer will move the goalposts at least once every 2 months before completion of the project.

G

countrybusdriver
3rd Apr 2001, 23:43
Remember Green Aircraft get priority at Dublin!

RAFAT
5th Apr 2001, 05:31
Another descent one which factors in groundspeed...

Observe groundspeed, add a '0' then half it, this figure becomes your VS for the descent which is commenced at a distance from destination of 3x height:

eg. 23,000' at 400 kts G/S = A descent rate of 2000 fpm commenced at 69 nm from destination. Remember to adjust VS for any increase in G/S during descent, and factor in a few miles to slow down at the end.

Frederic
6th Apr 2001, 13:28
Number of bars on sleeve times seniority times aircraft weight times MSF (*) devided by number of wives square rootet by number of children is "what he takes home"

*MSF: Management Suckup Factor

The Nr Fairy
6th Apr 2001, 13:51
A real rule of thumb :

On a half-mil chart, your thumb measures roughly 10nm.

It easily follows that a thumb is 5nm on a quarter-mil, and 1nm on a 50thou.

DoctorA300
6th Apr 2001, 15:46
Fairy, Big Hands, havnīt you http://www.pprune.org/ubb/NonCGI/tongue.gif

- The longer the logbook entry, the simpler the fault.

- If it ainīt fĪ%%&d, donīt fix it

- If it works, itīs not allowed

- If itīs grumpy, argumentative and rude, Itīs your freindly ground engineer.

Sorry, Iīm not a pilot, so I thought I would contribute some from the dark side.
Brgds
Doc

EDDNR
7th Apr 2001, 20:54
Bus journeys from the airport to hotel are measures in "Beiraes" (pronounced "beers"). A one beirai journey is about 12-15 mins, a two beiraes trip 25-35 mins and I don't know of any 3 beiraes journeys due to BALPA regs on our distance from slip hotels.

A two beiraes trip on a weekday evening can be equivalent to a one beirai on a Sunday.

Once day I'll fathom it out and post the exact conversion for beiraes > minutes > kilometres here on PPRuNe.

Rod

[This message has been edited by EDDNR (edited 07 April 2001).]

A Very Civil Pilot
8th Apr 2001, 22:07
If your hat blows off, its too windy to fly.

E120
10th Apr 2001, 15:16
Descent planning III:

When performing a CDA, ATC gives you "Trackmiles" to go:

groudspeed : 60 = X,
trackmiles : X = Y,
current altitude : Y = descent rate.

For example, assume a groundspeed of 360 kts at FL150 and you have 30 NM till touchdown;

360 kts : 60 = 6 NM/min,
30 NM : 6 Nm/min = 10 min,
FL150 : 10min = 1500 fpm.

(Adjust for changes in groundspeed off course)

Luftwaffle
10th Apr 2001, 16:05
Start your rollout half of your bank angle before your desired heading.
Start your level off ten percent of your roc/rod before your desired altitude.
Halve your groundspeed then multiply by ten for a good rod on the ILS.
Very quiet passengers are sick, scared, sleeping or dead.

Rogaine addict
12th Apr 2001, 08:37
Don't get your pussy where you get your paycheck.

Capt H Peacock
12th Apr 2001, 15:40
- If you want to know whether a manager's lying, check to see if his lips are moving.

- If you think everythings alright, you've overlooked something.

- If you see a red and white jet you should assume three things:
The pilot doesn't know where he is
He doesn't know what he's doing
He doesn't know what he's going to do next

- A wise man thinks twice before saying nothing.

- Confucious he say, man who piss in own shoe not stay warm for long

Always have a back up plan, plan for the worst and hope for the best.

Don D Cake
12th Apr 2001, 16:38
If you took the petrol tanks off all the motorbikes in the UK and laid them end to end, the bikes wouldn't work

kabz
12th Apr 2001, 19:04
"If your hat blows off, its too windy to fly. "


Not in gliders...

3 putt
12th Apr 2001, 21:40
Don't eat yellow snow.

Coriolis
14th Apr 2001, 02:00
While the defect may sometimes be cured after the first fix, it's hardly ever cured before the last fix...unless the last fix broke it again. :)

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Ground tested, no fault found

Coriolis
14th Apr 2001, 02:07
While it may be true that there are more than twice the number of engine failures/shut downs on twins than on singles, it's certainly true that twin pilot aircraft suffer many more than double the snags of a lone driver ('ere, are you sure this works like that/nah, it's like this/really/yeah/oh **** , it just broke/must have been like it when we left/yeah, bloody slack engineers...) :)

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Ground tested, no fault found

standbyils
17th Apr 2001, 21:39
"If it floats flies or #ucks it costs a fortune."

2Donkeys
18th Apr 2001, 10:40
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">If it floats flies or #ucks... </font>... it is cheaper to rent it by the hour :)