blk runway extension

[dada]

anyone know anything about plans so blackpool can accomodate
ryanair 737-800's????

[ALLMCC]

Could this possibly be due to demands from Ryanair - if so, same thing has happened at Londonderry resulting in the possible demolition of a no of private dwellings & causing quite a storm! All due to the forthcoming withdrawal of B732s.

[dada]

no houses near the end avail for extension!

[chiglet]

Got a rather large beach though:rolleyes:
we aim to please, it keeps the cleaners happy

[Frankfurt_Cowboy]

Demolish Pontins!!

[Buster the Bear]

146's and 200's will be gone soon. Blackpool needs to demonstrate that it can handle 800's.

[LTNman]

TORA and LDA are both better than Aberdeen so why does the 800 need such a long runway when 757’s can get in and out with no problems?:confused: :confused:

[HOODED]

LTN Man, probably because the 757 is an overpowered aircraft and the 737-800 is probably a tad underpowered. I remember that when BY used their -800s from LBA (which has a longer runway than BPL but probably the same LDA due displaced thresholds enforced during the extension) they had problems in certain weather conditions on the longer routes. As RYR dont do any particularly long routes ex BPL they should be ok with the current runway. If they wish to do longer routes in the future however an extra 1000ft would'nt go amis. Give me a 757 any day Boeing should've dumped them CFMs on the longer NGs but as usual operating costs outweigh performance. Just hope the 7E7 doesn't end up like the 737-800/900. At least Airbus finally saw sense with the A340-500/600 compared to the CFM powered step climbers! Can't see the cost of an extension being justified if RYR just do DUB from BPL. I await correction by any 738 drivers out there!

[Niaga Dessip]

The runway extension of the eastern end (i.e. NOT Pontins!) is for the benefit of Ryanair. Local press said recently that work would start soon, upon completion of planning formalities. As the airport is owned by the council those shouldn't be too much of a problem.

At least two other airlines (Excel and Air Europa) already operate the 737-800 to Mediterranean destinations. Would they have more powerful engines or do they take a reduced payload?

ND:p

[HOODED]

Thanks ND, proves my point, I doubt they have more powerful engines but they may take a reduced load, though I would doubt it. The BY problems ex LBA were mainly on hot nil wind/Westerly wind days to Tenerife and remember LBA is also nearly 700 ft AMSL so even with a longer runway, and TODA on 14 is 10397ft! they were having problems. Do you happen to know how much extra they're laying and are the CAA enforcing a displaced threshold a la LBA?

Cheers

HOODED

[Niaga Dessip]

HOODED

I don't know about a displaced threshold. From memory, I seem to recall that the extension is only in the order of a hundred odd metres, and is on land already available without any demolition, etc. required.

ND

[dada]

does that mean there may be a hidden agenda with ryanair - i.e longer routes needing a longer runway. from what i understand the dub and stn routes have done very well - maybe some others in the pipeline ?

[In trim]

I thought RYR operated with de-rated engines on the -800s to keep costs down? Is this right?