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keendog
26th Aug 2003, 19:27
I flew on an A320 (G-BUSC) on Sunday without its little winglets - I've just never come across an A320 without them before.
Any particular reason?

Sagey
26th Aug 2003, 19:31
It is a 100 series which doesn't have any winglets. Not many were manufactured so they appear unusual compared to the common winglet variety.

Sagey

ecj
26th Aug 2003, 19:42
When BA acquired Caledonian back in the late 80's, they also inherited these early Airbus' as well.

BAe 146-100
26th Aug 2003, 19:51
Hi,

Air France also operate the A320-100 variant.

http://www.chris-homepage.de/I5MWNjMmJhYTE4MDc5NTE2ODBjNDNiOG-icon.jpg

BAe 146-100

Golf Charlie Charlie
26th Aug 2003, 21:33
There were 21 A320-100s built. British Airways have 5 (G-BUSB,C,D,E,F), with the remaining 5 ex-BCAL being -200s. As best I can tell on a quick check, Air France are the only other operator of -100s - some may be ex-Air Inter.

BAe 146-100
26th Aug 2003, 22:45
Hi,

Did the A320-100 have the same flight deck as the 200 series?

BAe 146-100

HZ123
27th Aug 2003, 01:22
Cannot be sure of that but I believe they are all rostered and used as A320 standard fleet with no noticeable diference. Also told that the winglets were an add on as first batch of a/c failed to reach there opperating spec and the winglets were applied therafter, though they may have been intended anyway. Supposedly BA were given a wedge of compensation of this and rumour was that this was one of the reasons that BA avoided purchase of Airbus for some time.

NigelOnDraft
28th Aug 2003, 18:23
<<Did the A320-100 have the same flight deck as the 200 series?
>>
Not "did" - "does"...

Only way of telling is the FMGS A/C Status page, and looking out of the window.

Has different (lower) weights - so a really good idea when BA send one to IST! The winglets (allegedly) are the cause of performance correction fwd of 25% MAC CG for the -200 only.

<<Air France also operate the A320-100 variant>>
Regrettably one less than they started with - a problem with some trees I think....

NoD

BAe 146-100
28th Aug 2003, 19:36
Hi,

NigelOnDraft, Regrettably one less than they started with - a problem with some trees I think....

In the first crash of a new 'Fly-By-Wire' aircraft, the Airbus A320-100 impacted trees while performing a fly-by at an airshow and burst into flames.

Read more about it at AirDisaster (http://www.airdisaster.com/investigations/af296/af296.shtml).

BAe 146-100

Cleared_to
29th Aug 2003, 03:10
Yes...I think he knows. ;) :p

TopBunk
29th Aug 2003, 14:28
The -100's are useless due to the certified weights. The difference between max Landing and Take Off is 5 tonnes, or about 2 hours range, ie about PRG-LHR. No chance of it going to IST with any reasonable pax load. They should be consigned to the scrap yard, or put on domestics, imho!

seacue
30th Aug 2003, 03:40
I was told by a FO for UAL that they estimate a 5% increase in fuel consumption for each missing winglet on an A320.

Could it be that bad?