I appreciate that we all have our views around whether what's happened should be permitted or not. Legally its permitted but I agree that morally its questionable, however our laws allow this so we need to challenge politicians for change, not each other. What's done is done and I say this as a shareholder of Flybe Group PLC who lost out a five figure sum when the airline was sold out of the group to Connect Airways leaving a shell company as my investment!

If they have a staggeringly low cost base, then this is because they're a new business that has been able to exploit circumstance to negotiate attractive deals when the industry was struggling. They're a new business, incorporated in 2021 as Thyme OpCo Ltd before changing their name to Flybe Ltd. They have a newly issued AOC, approved by the regulator (CAA) during a time of significant challenge due to the pandemic. I very much doubt that a new AOC will have been issued without the CAA taking a long, hard and detailed look at everything first, especially having witnessed the downfall of the flybe V1.

The brand is returning to former markets, but not the airline that operated previously but we can all have an opinion. I'm at least grateful that some former employees have the chance again to continue their careers.

Well done. Splendid post

Exactly. A start up isn’t free. They have been paying salaries, office costs, PR and plane costs without any income.

Costs are unlikely to be that negotiable at LHR for a couple of Q400 a day. Handling agents there recently gave big pay rises too that will all cost money and LHR passenger fees are fairly high as well (and they are trying to raise them further). The starting price of fares barely covers the LHR passenger charge before you add plane, crew, overheads, administration, fuel, advertising etc.

On the other regional routes there is much more scope for flexibility and that should help but then IAG/Emerald might play rough and fight hard and I would imagine Emerald’s costs are lower (lower tax home base, more efficient younger fleet, PR and advertising shared with mainline, purchasing power of their larger partner).

So even more fuel and less profit then...

Operational necessity?
You in your two iterations on Pprune were very well known as being a great Flybe 1 detractor as well as being a former employee. This is Flybe v2 please remember. Let's not set this thread on a downward slide YET AGAIN

There is no rule that says only positive Flybe comments are allowed. It doesn’t mean it’s a downward slide just because you don’t like the views.

Indeed, but constantly sniping about how it isn't a new business (which in any event is untrue), or how it somehow isn't fair (it isn't, but it is legal!) is different from raising concerns or opinions as to why this that or the other route may or may not be viable. I completely share the opinions of those who believe that some of the routes planned into LHR look to be almost suicidal - I posted just that only this morning!

look at his and Lord Spandex Mashers posting history (same person) who, as a result of a complaint, led to a previous thread being closed
Your animosity towards me is reciprocated.
Spelling ok for you?

A detractor or maybe someone with opposing views to you? Or perhaps even someone who made valid and accurate points which, despite being accurate and truthful, weren't universally liked.

I can't see anything positive about operating a tiny little TP into Heathrow, especially when it may be "operationally necessary" to operate said TP inefficiently. So you will forgive me my negative opinion.

haha I’m sure Pprune can check Ip addresses and see that we’re most likely not even in the same country given I’m in Scandinavia. You and a couple of other posters have very similar posts. Are you the same person?

I have no animosity towards you. I just don’t believe we need name calling, insinuations of fake accounts and constant upset if anyone posts anything other than glorious praise for Flybe2.

Anything to say about Flybe 2 bean?

Only good luck

Dear bean
Dear BA318.
Let's take a breath, have a cup of tea, and please return to a civil discussion on the topic of this thread.
Thanks in advance.
T28B

On a serious note - what font is the Flybe website written in? It seems to struggle to correctly display certain lettters/numbers (especially g's and 9's - and especially when in the middle of prices!) , or is it just my computer?

This thread is permeated with the most passive-aggressive attitudes imaginable. It is not reassuring or helpful in any way as a reflection on the corporate culture prevailing in the "new" airline. It is probably doing more harm than good to the cause.

I find the website poor. Amateur Copy and over emphasis on the Pence when you're trying to make a booking amongst other things . Easy corrected to be fair.

Is G-JECP not at Weeze in the new livery?

That’s interesting as I felt quite the opposite when browsing - I felt it was simple to understand, clean, responsive and quick too. Far better than regional competitors. Sure it can be improved like anything, clearer guidance on when routes start when searching for flights etc but I think they’ve done a pretty good job. Does what it needs to for me.

G-JECY Flybe Dash-8 currently on the ground at Cardiff on crew training BEE99T

G-JECY surprise visit to Southampton. Welcome back!