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FRatSTN 1st April 2025 01:21

Absolutely Ryanair will know the booking curve for each destination. Those that are earlier they'll have released now for sale but will make the relevant time/frequency changes later along with other routes.

lfc84 10th April 2025 14:03

Posted on another forum relating to a Liverpool departure:

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Commotion on the Ryanair flight to Palma last night! The aircraft should have been operated by a 737MAX but a 737-800 operated the flight instead. A total of 194 were booked on the flight, there were 2 no-shows, so 192 turned up at the gate to board a, 189-seater.Three passengers were told, on check-in, that seats would be allocated at the gate. On arrival at the gate the passengers were then denied boarding as the flight was overbooked.

One of the ladies denied boarding was travelling with her family but she was left behind.

When the daughter of the lady left behind challenged the cabin crew she was told to return to her seat and sit down as she was delaying the flight.

Seljuk 20th April 2025 09:39

Most tricky collection due to the amount of bases and aircraft in fleet. For sure cannot be correct but I hope I got it more or less to provide overview of current bases:

93 bases

London (Stansted) 50
Dublin 34
Milan (Bergamo) 24
Vienna 18
Malaga 18
Alicante 18
Charleroi 18
Palma de Mallorca 16
Manchester 16
Barcelona 14
Madrid 13
Porto 12
Krakow 12
Faro 11
Bologna 11
Edinburgh 11
Budapest 10
Rome (Fiumicino) 9
Pisa 9
Wroclaw 9
Katowice 8
Milan (Malpensa) 8
Malta 8
Birmingham 8
Marseille 7
Berlin 7
Marrakech 7
Valencia 7
Dusseldorf (Weeze) 7
Rome (Ciampino) 7
London (Luton) 7
Stockholm (Arlanda) 6
Naples 5
Gdansk 5
Athens 5
Catania 5
Palermo 5
Seville 5
Bristol 5
Liverpool 5
East Midlands 5
Paris (Beauvais) 5
Cologne 4
Tenerife 4
Venice 4
Poznan 4
Munich (Memmingen) 4
Prague 4
Sofia 4
Warsaw (Modlin) 4
Lisbon 4
Paphos 4
Karlsruhe 4
Cork 4
Zagreb 4
Girona 4
Copenhagen 4
Lanzarote 3
Fez 3
Leeds 3
Bari 3
Kaunas 3
Cagliari 3
Frankfurt (Hahn) 3
Shannon 3
Dubrovnik 3
Zadar 3
Bratislava 2 (eff October)
Trieste 2
Reggio Calabria 2
Tangier 2
Belfast 2
Newcastle 2
Nuremberg 2
Funchal 2
Riga 2
Torino 2
Agadir 2
Corfu 2
Toulouse 2
Treviso 2
Bucharest (OTP) 2
Vilnius 2
Santiago de Compostela 2
Gothenborg 2
Thessaloniki 2
Lamezia Terme 2
Pescara 2
Brindisi 2
Bournemouth 2
Glasgow (Prestwick) 2
Chania 1
Ibiza 1
Please approach me, in case of any wrong information.

Dawkins1992 20th April 2025 09:44

London Luton is 7 planes now


Originally Posted by Seljuk (Post 11870443)
Most tricky collection due to the amount of bases and aircraft in fleet. For sure cannot be correct but I hope I got it more or less to provide overview of current bases:93 bases

London (Stansted) 50
Dublin 34
Milan (Bergamo) 24
Vienna 18
Malaga 18
Alicante 18
Charleroi 18
Palma de Mallorca 16
Manchester 16
Barcelona 14
Madrid 13
Porto 12
Krakow 12
Faro 11
Bologna 11
Edinburgh 11
Budapest 10
Rome (Fiumicino) 9
Pisa 9
Wroclaw 9
Katowice 8
Milan (Malpensa) 8
Malta 8
Marseille 7
Berlin 7
Marrakech 7
Valencia 7
Dusseldorf (Weeze) 7
Rome (Ciampino) 7
Stockholm (Arlanda) 6
Birmingham 6
East Midlands 6
London (Luton) 6
Naples 5
Gdansk 5
Athens 5
Cologne 5
Catania 5
Palermo 5
Seville 5
Bristol 5
Liverpool 5
Tenerife 4
Venice 4
Poznan 4
Munich (Memmingen) 4
Prague 4
Sofia 4
Warsaw (Modlin) 4
Lisbon 4
Paphos 4
Karlsruhe 4
Cork 4
Zagreb 4
Girona 4
Lanzarote 3
Bratislava 3
Fez 3
Leeds 3
Bari 3
Kaunas 3
Cagliari 3
Frankfurt (Hahn) 3
Shannon 3
Dubrovnik 3
Zadar 3
Trieste 2
Reggio Calabria 2
Tangier 2
Copenhagen 2
Belfast 2
Newcastle 2
Nuremberg 2
Funchal 2
Riga 2
Torino 2
Agadir 2
Corfu 2
Toulouse 2
Treviso 2
Paris (Beauvais) 2
Bucharest (OTP) 2
Vilnius 2
Santiago de Compostela 2
Gothenborg 2
Thessaloniki 2
Lamezia Terme 2
Pescara 2
Brindisi 2
Bournemouth 2
Glasgow (Prestwick) 2
Chania 1
Ibiza 1
Please approach me, in case of any wrong information.


Matt995 20th April 2025 10:20


Originally Posted by Seljuk (Post 11870443)
Most tricky collection due to the amount of bases and aircraft in fleet. For sure cannot be correct but I hope I got it more or less to provide overview of current bases:93 bases

London (Stansted) 50
Dublin 34
Milan (Bergamo) 24
Vienna 18
Malaga 18
Alicante 18
Charleroi 18
Palma de Mallorca 16
Manchester 16
Barcelona 14
Madrid 13
Porto 12
Krakow 12
Faro 11
Bologna 11
Edinburgh 11
Budapest 10
Rome (Fiumicino) 9
Pisa 9
Wroclaw 9
Katowice 8
Milan (Malpensa) 8
Malta 8
Marseille 7
Berlin 7
Marrakech 7
Valencia 7
Dusseldorf (Weeze) 7
Rome (Ciampino) 7
Stockholm (Arlanda) 6
Birmingham 6
East Midlands 6
London (Luton) 6
Naples 5
Gdansk 5
Athens 5
Cologne 5
Catania 5
Palermo 5
Seville 5
Bristol 5
Liverpool 5
Tenerife 4
Venice 4
Poznan 4
Munich (Memmingen) 4
Prague 4
Sofia 4
Warsaw (Modlin) 4
Lisbon 4
Paphos 4
Karlsruhe 4
Cork 4
Zagreb 4
Girona 4
Lanzarote 3
Bratislava 3
Fez 3
Leeds 3
Bari 3
Kaunas 3
Cagliari 3
Frankfurt (Hahn) 3
Shannon 3
Dubrovnik 3
Zadar 3
Trieste 2
Reggio Calabria 2
Tangier 2
Copenhagen 2
Belfast 2
Newcastle 2
Nuremberg 2
Funchal 2
Riga 2
Torino 2
Agadir 2
Corfu 2
Toulouse 2
Treviso 2
Paris (Beauvais) 2
Bucharest (OTP) 2
Vilnius 2
Santiago de Compostela 2
Gothenborg 2
Thessaloniki 2
Lamezia Terme 2
Pescara 2
Brindisi 2
Bournemouth 2
Glasgow (Prestwick) 2
Chania 1
Ibiza 1
Please approach me, in case of any wrong information.

Birmingham is 8 based aircraft peak season, 3 737 Max8's, 5 737-800's

LGS6753 20th April 2025 10:47

I think Luton is now 7 rather than 6.

amyisraelchai 20th April 2025 11:04

A number of UK bases appear to have been swapped over, at least in part, to Maltese-registered airframes for S25, having until now been operated exclusively by the mainline Irish fleet. I doubt there are any real operational differences but still noteworthy - perhaps this is O'Leary's way of enacting his supposed "cuts" to the UK network..!

P330 20th April 2025 13:32


Originally Posted by amyisraelchai (Post 11870498)
A number of UK bases appear to have been swapped over, at least in part, to Maltese-registered airframes for S25, having until now been operated exclusively by the mainline Irish fleet. I doubt there are any real operational differences but still noteworthy - perhaps this is O'Leary's way of enacting his supposed "cuts" to the UK network..!

I’d love to know why? Presumably this delivers a lower cost operation but how?

amyisraelchai 20th April 2025 16:29

The Maltese government quietly returned its single "golden" share in Malta Air to Ryanair's Gulliver Holdings on September 26th - I wonder whether their agreement only covered the first 5 years of operation?

FRatSTN 21st April 2025 01:18

I could point out a few corrections to the based aircraft list posted above but too many to go through. Whilst broadly correct there's a few odd ones likes CPH is actually 4 rather than 2 based whilst KTW is currently only 3 based, certainly not the 8 listed above.

Of course for Ryanair in particular, number of based aircraft is only a small part of the story. Since they have so many bases across Europe, the proportion of based vs non-based flying across particular airports varies considerably. Add to that average sector lengths in some markets compared to others also has a considerable impact. Take for example EMA, which has five based aircraft currently, there's 19 Ryanair departures from there today. BVA on the other hand, also five based, has 57 departures by comparison.

Seljuk 21st April 2025 06:55


Originally Posted by FRatSTN (Post 11870778)
I could point out a few corrections to the based aircraft list posted above but too many to go through. Whilst broadly correct there's a few odd ones likes CPH is actually 4 rather than 2 based whilst KTW is currently only 3 based, certainly not the 8 listed above.

Don't mind if you point them out. For sure it is not correct as it stand and therefore thanks for all remarks to have a more correct overview.

KTW:
FR mentioned 3 based but also additional 5 aircraft for charter activities (same like for other e.g. Polish bases where Sun/Buzz operates)
https://corporate.ryanair.com/inform...wic/?market=pl

SWBKCB 25th April 2025 16:56

Looks like the CAA have run out of patience with Ryanair

Flight RK1265 had departed on schedule from Agadir. But an hour after take-off, as the Boeing 737 was off the southwest coast of Portugal, the captain declared a diversion to Faro so that a disruptive passenger could be offloaded. After police removed the passenger, the aircraft was refuelled to continue the journey to Manchester. But a technical issue came to light that required the attention of an engineer.

The aircraft is operated by a subsidiary, Ryanair UK, which flies routes that do not serve points in the European Union. It was set up after Brexit to allow flights between the UK and countries outside the EU, such as Morocco and Albania, to continue. Ryanair UK engineer was not available in Faro. So the airline's main operating unit, Ryanair DAC, offered to provide an identical aircraft and crew to fly the 177 passengers home without further delay.

But the CAA refused to give permission, according to Ryanair’s Eddie Wilson: “Here’s the important thing: they could have said ‘yes’. They actually said ‘yes’ earlier that day from a flight from Girona.”


A UK Civil Aviation Authority spokesperson said:“The UK CAA plays a key role protecting passengers as well as enabling growth in the UK aviation sector. We encourage UK operators to create strong resilience plans for when planes have to be grounded to minimise the impact on passengers. These plans need to be consistent with the legal framework that applies to UK aviation following EU Exit, which requires UK based companies to have sufficient UK registered aircraft to operate their schedule.

“Ryanair has been well aware of this position for a considerable period of time. Ryanair UK has chosen to operate a flight schedule that requires 18 aircraft, but has only allocated 15 aircraft to its UK registered business to fulfil this schedule. Ryanair has prioritised the placement of aircraft within their other EU based business over the UK, leaving UK passengers at a higher risk of disruption.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-b2739524.html

pabely 25th April 2025 17:34


Originally Posted by SWBKCB (Post 11873563)
Looks like the CAA have run out of patience with Ryanair




https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-b2739524.html

Good, others like Easyjet UK keep to the rules at extra cost.
I bet there is no way on earth the EU would allow this like a G- aircraft doing an intra-EU leg.

USER0005 25th April 2025 18:25


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 11873575)
Good, others like Easyjet UK keep to the rules at extra cost.
I bet there is no way on earth the EU would allow this like a G- aircraft doing an intra-EU leg.

Indeed, and so they shouldn't. We made our bed so we must sleep in it.

Ryanair rode their luck and it now appears to have run out. There is no "Ryanair eceptionalism" and the UK has been very patient, some may say lax.

darren1 25th April 2025 21:20

Unfortunately the Brexiteers have ruined a very good working relationship.

FQTLSteve 26th April 2025 07:48


Originally Posted by pabely (Post 11873575)
Good, others like Easyjet UK keep to the rules at extra cost.
I bet there is no way on earth the EU would allow this like a G- aircraft doing an intra-EU leg.

Another Brexit win for citizens....none of this mattered for decades I agree with Ryanair and hope they win against the CAA. Brexit keeps on giving utter madness!

S.o.S. 26th April 2025 10:38

Brexit was Brexit and we follow the new rules. Thank You.

AirportPlanner1 27th April 2025 06:46

The pros and cons of Brexit on ownership and operational matters could be long debated and probably has been already, but the Ryanair thread isn’t really the place for it.

But for the Ryanair pax of this flight Brexit has specifically disadvantaged them. It has extinguished possibility of just shifting them into a different plane, something that was possible until Jan 2021. The leavers got what they voted for. That is fact.

261 compensation would be interesting in this scenario. A tech issue which has arisen only after a no-fault diversion.

V_2 27th April 2025 07:31

Perhaps Ryanair should comment and focus on how a drunk passenger was onboard their aircraft in the first place. Problem avoided then

OzzyOzBorn 11th May 2025 15:11

Just putting a question out there to the PPRuNe talent pool ... I don't purport to know the solution!

We know that MOL has been understandably voicing concerns over the potential impact of new US tariffs affecting aircraft orders and deliveries from Boeing. There have been suggestions that some early deliveries could be refused, in order to ensure that tariffs are not incurred. I've just been thinking about potential solutions to circumvent this problem; whether or not either of them would be in any way feasible is open to conjecture. Just putting some ideas out there to consider ways in which the impasse could be circumvented.

1) A wide-ranging new trade deal between the US and the UK was announced earlier this week. Would allocation of new B38M's to Ryanair UK (and delivering direct to them) bypass reciprocal tariffs imposed against the US by the EU? Would allocating these aircraft to the Ryanair UK subsidiary come with extra costs anyway, over and above what would be routinely anticipated? In the short term, the 15 Boeing 737-8AS units currently operating for Ryanair UK could be cascaded back to the EI-, SP-, 9H- fleets without tariffs to offset the first fifteen tariff-impacted deliveries?

2) Would it be an option to sell the outstanding B38M orders to a US leasing company with an agreement to lease them and buy them back at a later date (subject to tariff renegotiations at government level)? Do aircraft coming across from the US on lease themselves incur tariffs, even if the aircraft is not being purchased by an entity domiciled within the EU?

I don't know whether these options are feasible, or whether some of you can suggest better ideas (or further obstacles), but a solution which means no backlog of undeliverable Ryanair B38M's going to storage in a desert would be beneficial all round. Only competitors will benefit from a hamstrung Ryanair, unable to expand beyond it's present fleet size for months or years ahead.

Any thoughts?



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