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There’s nothing better than free publicity!
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The truth is that both Elon Musk and Michael O' Leary are elite CEO's, amongst the most capable and astute in the business world globally. And they both have a great sense of humour too. Both can have lots of fun and free publicity with this, and good luck to them! Why wouldn't you?
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Much easier to be an elite CEO when you start off in wealth beyond what many of us could comprehend.
Musk can’t own Ryanair due to ownership rules so it’s a moot point. If he did it would be the airline’s downfall, he is toxic and large numbers of people would boycott no matter how low the fares. Same with his cars. The whole Musk empire is built on a house of cards which could topple at any moment (that or he ODs on ketamine). |
Originally Posted by AirportPlanner1
(Post 12024566)
Much easier to be an elite CEO when you start off in wealth beyond what many of us could comprehend.
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Absolutely agree with that
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2 more aircraft for BGY and one more for MXP in summer 2026
https://corporate.ryanair.com/novita...-lestate-2026/ |
Just found this in the Irish Independent - quite a funny comment on the recent Ryanair / Musk spat (paywalled, so the funniest part as a quote):
"[O'Leary's North star has been] to take the romance or any other pleasure out flying, just as Musk made it his business to turn Twitter into a hellish place for any normal human being, many of whom have move to Bluesky, the social media equivalent to Aer Lingus" "[O'Leary] relaxes by owning horses, while Elon takes ketamine, a medication for horses." |
That is enough commentary on people. You can do that in JetBlast.
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The 210th
The Ryanair groups' final 737 Max 8-200 SP-RZX is on the way to DUB. Instead of the expected call-sign RYS82X (the last letter of the registration invariably being used after 82) it is flying as RYS210 - marking the final delivery of the type. |
Originally Posted by Gurnard
(Post 12041998)
The 210th
The Ryanair groups' final 737 Max 8-200 SP-RZX is on the way to DUB. Instead of the expected call-sign RYS82X (the last letter of the registration invariably being used after 82) it is flying as RYS210 - marking the final delivery of the type. That will help profits this year but long term not so healthy if the Max10 gets delayed further. The competition have many 321NEOs arriving helping their economics. |
Which Mr O'Leary will be pointing out regularly to Mr Boeing...
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The Guardian today. Austrian court order and action
Bailiffs have boarded a Ryanair aircraft after the airline refused to pay compensation to a passenger whose flight was delayed. Austrian officials took action after the budget carrier ignored a court order to pay the unnamed woman €890 (£742) in legal costs and compensation for a delayed flight two years ago. A bailiff entered the plane, which was bound for London, as it sat on the stand at Linz airport on Monday and fixed a seizure sticker to the cabin when crew were unable to settle the debt. The label, known as a “cuckoo sticker”, gives the court legal control over the aircraft, which was allowed to continue to operate under set conditions. The court can sell the Boeing 737 at public auction if the debt is not paid by a deadline. |
When do Ryanair finish loading their winter schedule?
I can book flights to Spain in October but not regional France, so for example I can book Malaga but not Carcassonne past September? |
Any insiders know what’s going on with FR4080? Possibly diverting Toulouse
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Originally Posted by OzzyOzBorn
(Post 12024630)
But neither of these men were born into exceptional wealth. Musk took early jobs on a farm and in a lumber mill; O' Leary operated a couple of newsagents in suburban Dublin. Neither were paupers, but they weren't privileged elite by any stretch. Both are self-made successes and worthy role models for ambitious youngsters.
MOL went to a very good school and became friends with Tony Ryan's kids. It was that good a school, Ireland's richest man sent his children there. As Ryan's assistant, he ended up running Ryanair after a few years later when Tony lost most of his GPA fortune. MOL was born to the purple, his common man image is good but not accurate. The newsagent bit is true but he was just being his own man for a time, it was never what he was. "Clongowes Wood College, a private boarding school in County Kildare, Ireland, followed by Trinity College Dublin, where he studied Economics and Social Studies. " |
Skip: You are answering a post which dates back to January 22nd. Somebody - possibly yourself? - made the argument you have just repeated back at that time. It was amongst a number of posts which moderator 'SoS' deleted back then, adding the comment 'That is enough about people.'
Why are you revisiting this now? Does it stem from resentment towards people who make a success of their lives? So he attended a good school ... so do thousands of others, and it is not a guaranteed ticket to high achievement in professional life. |
Ambitious youngsters can't emulate that level of success without top level networking. That's how public school works. No slight on the man, I think he's been amazing for the consumer, not having a go.
Twenty years working in business though shows up the importance of connections and background, they give you a helluva head start. O'Leary was Tony Ryan's man, that opens doors closed to most at that level. Branson also has very wealthy parents who would make sure little Richard never ended up on the street if his business went bust. That's not an avenue open to most people, especially now. |
Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 12065229)
Ambitious youngsters can't emulate that level of success without top level networking. That's how public school works. No slight on the man, I think he's been amazing for the consumer, not having a go.
Twenty years working in business though shows up the importance of connections and background, they give you a helluva head start. O'Leary was Tony Ryan's man, that opens doors closed to most at that level. Branson also has very wealthy parents who would make sure little Richard never ended up on the street if his business went bust. That's not an avenue open to most people, especially now. |
yeah but I've met a lot of folk who went to Public Schools and they've made a complete mess of their lives. maybe 50 years ago your father could get you into a decent job with his mates but the same went for Printers, Train Drivers and (above all) the BBC
In the modern world you HAVE to perform to get a top job anyway this is awful thread drift.................. |
Originally Posted by MANFAN
(Post 12051832)
When do Ryanair finish loading their winter schedule?
I can book flights to Spain in October but not regional France, so for example I can book Malaga but not Carcassonne past September? |
Ryanair Gets Tough!
https://www.gatechecked.com/ryanair-...ef=flightaware |
Based on historical data, press release and posts in this and other forums, below overview of based aircraft (not 100% sure about STN, DUB and other bases):
London (Stansted) 50 Dublin 35 Mailand (Bergamo) 24 Alicante 20 Manchester 19 Malaga 18 Charleroi 18 (13 from November) Palma de Mallorca 16 Krakow 15 Vienna 14 Barcelona 14 Madrid 13 Porto 12 Faro 12 Edinburgh 11 Budapest 11 Bologna 11 Rome (Fiumicino) 10 Katowice 9 Milano (Malpensa) 9 Worclaw 9 Malta 9 Pisa 9 Birmingham 9 Marseille 7 Berlin 7 Warschau (Modlin) 7 Marrakech 7 Valencia 7 Weeze 7 London (Luton) 7 Gdansk 6 Liverpool 6 East Midlands 6 Rome (Ciampino) 6 Stockholm 6 Seville 6 Paris (Beauvais) 5 Naples 5 Poznan 5 Athens 5 Catania 5 Palermo 5 Bristol 5 Tirana 4 Copenhagen 4 Teneriffa 4 Venice 4 Zagreb 4 Cork 4 Memmingen 4 Prague 4 Sofia 4 Cologne 4 Lisbon 4 Paphos 4 Karlsruhe 4 Girona 4 Shannon 4 Lanzarote 3 Newcastle 3 Zadar 3 Torino 3 Bratislava 3 Fez 3 Leeds 3 Bari 3 Kaunas 3 Cagliari 3 Hahn 3 Trapani 2 Rabat 2 Triest 2 Reggio Calabria 2 Tanger 2 Dubrovnik 2 Belfast 2 Nuremberg 2 Funchal 2 Riga 2 Agadir 2 Corfu 2 Toulouse 2 Treviso 2 Bucharest 2 Vilnius 2 Gothenborg 2 Thessaloniki 2 Lamezia Terme 2 Pescara 2 Brindisi 2 Bournemouth 2 Glasgow (Prestwick) 2 Chania 1 Ibiza 1 |
STN 57 I believe
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Berlin down to 0 from this Winter
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...from-oct-2026/ |
Will pave the way surely for Eurowings to become big at Berlin. Currently their traffic share at Berlin is much smaller compared to their Dusseldorf, Cologne, Stuttgart and Hamburg operations. EasyJet may see an opportunity to expand too, but they also have been reactive to rising costs in Berlin.
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Originally Posted by pabely
(Post 12075929)
Berlin down to 0 from this Winter
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...from-oct-2026/ |
Ban early morning pre-flight pint to tackle drunken passenger chaos, says Ryanair boss Michael O’Leary said the measure would reduce the number of passengers who were disruptive onboard aircraft Mr O’Leary said Ryanair was being forced to divert an average of nearly one flight every day because of bad behaviour onboard, up from one a week a decade ago. In an interview with The Times, Mr O’Leary said: “It’s becoming a real challenge for all airlines. “I fail to understand why anybody in airport bars is serving people at five or six o’clock in the morning. “Who needs to be drinking beer at that time?” Ask why the airports have to generate extra revenue at that time .... |
The answer to MOL's question is that many folks who arrive at the airport at 04:00 to 05:00 in readiness for first wave departures have been up all night. They haven't actually slept at all. So they view the period between completing airport formalities and boarding their flight as an extension to their late night routine, rather than as a morning thing. Or as a chance to finally have a drink after a long overnight drive to the airport.
I sympathise with MOL's contention that inebriated / well-oiled passengers present a challenge for cabin crews. Drunk, bewildered, tired and irritable is not a good mix. Their body-clock is all over the place, yet they know that they MUST stay awake until boarding their flight. Drinking at the bar is the go-to answer for some. Many reading here - within the industry - may disapprove, understandably so. But can you honestly claim that you wouldn't have acted similarly when going abroad with your mates when aged 18 to 25, for example? Or on a youthful stag / hen doo? Many folks who can be relied upon to make mature decisions in their later years didn't always do so way back when. From the airport operator's perspective, money must be made somehow, as LCC's are unwilling to pay fees which render airports viable without ancillary revenue streams. They're boxed in and must maximise income where they can. The bar brings in the revenue lifeline which airport businesses rely on. Meanwhile, once aboard flight, the online downloadable Ryanair menu shows offers such as: Absolut Vodka, Bacardi, Bombay Sapphire, Jack Daniels, Jameson, Served Mojito, Smirnoff Ice (all EUR7.00 each); Drumshanbo Gin, Glenfiddich, Grey Goose, Hendrick's Gin (EUR 9.00 each); Corona 4.5%, Stella Artois 5% (EUR6.50 each), and a choice of five different Wines priced at EUR 8.00 - 9.00 each. I don't see a rider advising that sale of these will be denied on flights with first-wave departure times. Yes, cabin crews can at their discretion refuse to sell alcohol to individuals whose behaviour is of concern, but airport bar staff have this discretion too. Where's the difference? I can understand the logic of calling for an alcohol-free environment outside licensing hours. But should this not then apply aboard the aircraft also? Would MOL endorse shuttering this revenue stream on Ryanair flights? If so, fair enough, but airports must be permitted to compete directly with carriers for ancillary revenue on a proverbial level playing field. Either that, or airlines must be prepared to pay airports more to ensure their continued viability without income from alcohol sales. |
Personally, I believe it’s a cost of doing business using Ryanair’s model. By pushing down the cost of ticket prices the low cost carriers make travel very accessible and affordable, delivers an output for Ryanair that seems to be more disruptive passengers than other carriers. Or at least, the impact of the additional cost from disruptive passengers is something Ryanair is not willing to tolerate.
An action will drive an output, and what we see here is the consequence of their business model. They are perhaps more exposed than other carriers to people making very short trips, and say, making a party night or a weekend of it in another city, because it is so affordable to do so. I don’t believe that moving the goal posts for everyone is the right move, if you drive these outputs because of your business model, then that is a sunk cost you accept to deliver that model. Plenty of people turn up at the airport at all times of the day to board flights, and in view of wanting to relax or start their holiday at the airport may want to have a drink, that should not have to change just because of Ryanair’s business model. I’m not a fan of restricting everyone because of the behaviour of a few, and I firmly believe it’s Ryanair’s problem to address themselves. You can’t drive cost down to a level that effectively means you risk operating a flight safely due to your higher propensity to have disruptive passengers, and not expect to have to shoulder the burden of making sure as people board that they are fit to travel; that is very squarely Ryanair’s problem in my eyes. If in doubt, get a breathalyser out for those people you suspect of potentially being at risk, but of course, that would increase costs for Ryanair so why would they do that when they can make it seem like it’s a systemic problem in the industry. This is classic “look over there” politics. |
I dont get how people can get blootered in under 2 hours anyway?
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[size=16px]But can you honestly claim that you wouldn't have acted similarly when going abroad with your mates when aged 18 to 25, for example? Or on a youthful stag / hen doo? Many folks who can be relied upon to make mature decisions in their later years didn't always do so way back when.[/size] |
Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 12082271)
Hmm - just youngsters, is it?
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There are some good responses in The Independent. Scroll down to reader comments such as these excerpts:
Seeing drunk, aggressive men in nothing but see-through babydoll nighties, thongs and high heels at 7am was an unforgettable experience. I’d agree with O’Leary if it wasn’t for the fact that he’s a complete and utter hypocrite. I was on a Ryanair flight to the Canaries recently and – despite them being legless and disrupting the flight – cabin crew continued to serve a group of about eight guys whenever I've seen obnoxious behavior from drunk passengers they have always been English. I fly regularly and the culprit is always English not British. English.Why do you think that is ?? |
Thessaloniki base to be closed from winter
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...for-winter-26/ |
Ryanair is claiming to be debt-free, for the first time in nearly 30 years, having repaid a €1.2 billion ($1.4 billion) bond raised during the Covid-19 pandemic. The company had indicated that the payment was upcoming in its full-year 2025-26 financial results statement. It had pointed out that its net year-end cash of €2.1 billion enabled it to clear the debt. “This financial strength further widens the cost gap between Ryanair and our competitors,” says group chief financial officer Neil Sorahan. Ryanair says the repayment leaves it “effectively” debt-free for the first time since the company floated in 1997. The airline has an unencumbered fleet of 620 Boeing 737s which, says Sorahan, underpins its “fortress balance sheet”. Sorahan says the company will “opportunistically” revisit the bond market as it seeks to expand its fleet with 737 Max 10s, deliveries of which are likely to ramp up to some 50 per year from 2029. |
Bratislava gets a 4th aircraft next winter
https://corporate.ryanair.com/news/r...owering-costs/ |
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