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AirportPlanner1 7th March 2021 21:28

Genuine question, which hopefully won’t be jumped on.

Is talk of UPS reduction or relocation Brexit-related or something else? Has there been a downturn in volume for them and Fedex generally? I ask this as Amazon have significantly reduced their UK operation since Jan 1st due to Brexit.

STN406 7th March 2021 22:46

I don’t think FedEx has had a downturn. They have at least 1 extra flight in and out each night either a MD11 or B77F. And the TNT side of FedEx has had an extra B734 flight most nights to.
Noticed recently that at peak times FedEx will have a aircraft waiting on the taxiway as stand space isn’t available.

Flightmech 8th March 2021 11:51

No downturn for FedEx. As STN406 says extra-section MD11/777 flights multiple times per week and also utilising the weekend layover 777 for an extra STN-MEM-STN

Harrych 11th March 2021 10:10

Ryanair launching new Greek routes, all start this summer operating 2 pw:
PVK
ZTH
JTR

southside bobby 11th March 2021 10:50

Ryanair STN-Greece.

Latest schedules from July 1 include...

Prevesa 2pw
Zakynthos 2pw
Santorini 2pw
Rhodes 3pw

southside bobby 15th March 2021 07:07

30th Anniversary of official opening of Stansted`s new terminal by HM The Queen on 15.3.91.

Since then nearly 4m flights have passed through.

Due to the pandemic traffic figures for the last 12 months reflect 1994 levels however.

Harrych 15th March 2021 09:39

AnadoluJet increasing the SAW route to 3x daily between 15 July and 15 September.

STN406 15th March 2021 19:24

Not surprising at all this. Preformed very well in the summer months last year with additional SAW with DLM and AYT added to.

BHX5DME 16th March 2021 10:41

MAG - February 2021
 
Feb Pax

MAN = 79,408 down 95.5%

STN = 34,967 down 98.1%

EMA = 255 down 99.9%



Rolling 12m pax

STN = 3,903,227 down 86.1%

MAN = 3,688,509 down 87.4%

EMA = 519,779 down 88.8%



Feb Cargo

EMA = 34,053 up 23.6%

STN = 19,832 up 51.9%

MAN = 4,174 down 41.8%

southside bobby 16th March 2021 11:00

As expected the only positive for STN is once again the cargo network.

AirportPlanner1 16th March 2021 12:23

My rough calculation of about 47 departures/arrivals per week on average gives about 93 pax per flight. Clearly most will be higher because Loganair will be carrying significantly less.

You do wonder why so many are travelling, and what checks are being done to make sure it’s essential.

davidjohnson6 16th March 2021 13:07

With maybe 4 or 5 international passenger departures per day, I think traffic at STN is extraordinarily low - it seems no-travel rules are being adhered to pretty strictly by the general population.
You could send police to interrogate everyone... but I'm not sure that would achieve much in reducing Covid transmission rates. I would be much more concerned at the rather larger number of flights at Heathrow

Spanish eyes 16th March 2021 18:29

Well that doesn’t apply to Luton. Plenty of flights each day to Eastern Europe and now to holiday destinations on the Med particularly at weekends when so called essential travel away happens.

southside bobby 16th March 2021 20:32

MAG/STN Planning Appeal for 43.5m pax pa.
All observers both opponents & allies appear in agreement that the local authority has failed in the Appeal which has ended more than two weeks early.
Amongst rancour within different areas of the Council concerning the Appeal MAG looks likely to press for a seven figure award of costs.
The Inspectors decision is expected in three months.

LTNman 17th March 2021 03:44

The Council is just doing its duty to oppose airport expansion, which is why it was voted into power in the first place due to a rebellion by the locals who put up alternative candidates at the local election.

Contrast that to Luton where the airport owner is the planning authority and where the locals are just ignored.

southside bobby 17th March 2021 09:09

"The Council is just doing its duty"...

Yes so much for local democracy up to the tune of a £3m bill in costs with new District Councillors involved in the farce defying advice from their own planning officers & legal council in a planning matter which had already been Council approved & which had forced the MAG Appeal.
Wonder who funds the bill for the charade?...of course every local household & business in UDC.
Perhaps some of those who are either for the airport or agnostic on the matter would rather they were "just ignored"
But seriously the situation with planning at Luton will not continue as it has in the past.

AirportPlanner1 17th March 2021 11:24

R4U’s official position isn’t actually against the airport or even necessarily additional flights, although they do want to limit night flights. They are more interested in mitigation and solving local annoyances such as parking controls. It seemed to me that the Councillors ‘went rogue’, and I can’t see it ending well for them. Realistically they are only in power because of a Brexit backlash which saw the Tories wiped out, down to just 4 seats from having controlled the Council. R4U had 26, but 3 since defected to the Greens.

southside bobby 17th March 2021 12:10

Possibly so but in essence the R4U majority acted in an undemocratic manner reversing a planning decision made by full Council six months prior to their election.

They were advised by planning officers & legal advisors that reversing the decision would be found failing & with large costs in the event of an Appeal by MAG which duly happened.

daz211 28th March 2021 21:47

FlyPop are rumoured to be acquiring their first Aircraft within the next two week.
but no word of seats going on sale as yet.

southside bobby 29th March 2021 03:58

...Moving rather quickly now then perhaps.
Recently stated either a July or October start with the founder styling himself now as the Sikh MoL which may relate to an advertising association with STN but stated as still in talks with LGW/BHX/EMA too.
Working on a deal to lease up to 10 a/c.


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