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The number they have on order I would think so but not this year maybe next year or year after.as they will operate the Canary Islands and longer haul heavy lift flights.
One of the older A321ceo has already moved to BHX as G-SUNB is due in MAN on Thursday from EMA where it is having stencils put on |
More of a reason to keep them up North for the longer legs and the NEO engines are still less reliable than the CEO models.
Are their many first wave slots available for increasing the number if based frames to 20? Wouldn't make business sense if you can't get them earning money before 9AM. |
Originally Posted by JW95
(Post 11414477)
Great news! I would not be surprised to see a 20 a/c base at STN at some point given their expansion at STN in recent years. How does this compare to EasyJet's peak capacity at STN when they had a base here?
I'm also wondering whether we may eventually see some of the new A320/21-NEOs based at STN at some point? |
Originally Posted by Buster the Bear
(Post 11414203)
16th Jet2 airframe to be based this summer. https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...nsted-capacity
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Last summer, Niceair chartered an A319 from Hi Fly Malta to fly STN to Akureyri in Iceland. They managed to operate a couple of flights before the CAA told them to sod off because the UK-Iceland bilateral doesn't allow EU carriers
Niceair said they would return. They won't - Icelandic news reports Niceair are shutting down https://www.ruv.is/frettir/innlent/2...le-a-starfsemi |
Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
(Post 11415128)
Last summer, Niceair chartered an A319 from Hi Fly Malta to fly STN to Akureyri in Iceland. They managed to operate a couple of flights before the CAA told them to sod off because the UK-Iceland bilateral doesn't allow EU carriers
Niceair said they would return. They won't - Icelandic news reports Niceair are shutting down https://www.ruv.is/frettir/innlent/2...le-a-starfsemi |
Originally Posted by pamann
(Post 11415136)
I’ve seen some niche routes in my time and that was certainly one of them. No real surprise.
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Looks like SunExpress may be moving their London ops from Luton to Stansted come October?
Thanks to SeanM1997 on Twitter. https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....abd900a99.jpeg |
As they are owned jointly by Lufthansa & Turkish Airlines it was a little of an odd ball for Luton but I think TUI used to block book seats. Perhaps TUI have decided to use someone else so the need to use Luton has disappeared? Pure speculation.
My thought is Wizzair will be itching to connect more Turkish airports at Luton anyhow once Blue Air slots become available for bidding by the administrators. |
Competing with Pegasus on that route. Not very convenient flight times either.
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Sun Express
Looking at the Sun Express website, seems their Luton - Antalya service is also not available to book for the winter 23/24 period, so no LTN flights at all, possibly been moved to Gatwick or potentially also switching to STN ??
What would really work would be TK mainline coming back on the STN - IST route, filling the Atlasjet void and enabling their IST hub to pick up so much potential for onward traffic to the likes of CIS and Asia / Far East, demand is def there, same can be said for KLM reintroducing their AMS route as an onward hub. |
Sun Express only operate around Christmas and New Year at Luton due lack of slots apparently.
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Sun Express have been constrained by lack of slots at Luton, hence the move.
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Originally Posted by Skipness One Foxtrot
(Post 11414820)
Fantastic news, and how wrong I was thInking they couldn't compete in Fortress Ryanair.
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Originally Posted by WHBM
(Post 11416246)
I don't think Jet2 from Stansted (who I used this last week) are directly competitive with Ryanair, despite their northern background they are now a national brand whose only operation from London/South East is from Stansted. Their base load is from their package holiday side. I suspect their market would follow them whichever London airport they used. It was however a sensible choice for them, I suspect if they could get slots at Gatwick they would operate parallel flights from there.
That said Jet2 do operate block charters from Gatwick Agreed they aren’t a direct head on competitor of either Ryanair or Easy being very much a hybrid tour company with airline attached business with limited back fill from sales largely targeted at the second home and Airbnb crowd. |
Originally Posted by Paulesx
(Post 11415801)
Looking at the Sun Express website, seems their Luton - Antalya service is also not available to book for the winter 23/24 period, so no LTN flights at all, possibly been moved to Gatwick or potentially also switching to STN ??
What would really work would be TK mainline coming back on the STN - IST route, filling the Atlasjet void and enabling their IST hub to pick up so much potential for onward traffic to the likes of CIS and Asia / Far East, demand is def there, same can be said for KLM reintroducing their AMS route as an onward hub. As far as KLM is concerned - this has been previously flagged up, and discussed earlier in the thread. With just 2 flights available to AMS with EZY, this is a far cry from when KLM, and later Buzz served the STN-AMS route, which I believe at its peak stood at 6 daily? KLM UK had a hub at STN back in the early 2000s and even had its own dedicated lounge in satellite 2 for business class passengers. Certainly they would be a welcome addition to STN for MAG I'm sure, especially given KLM's vast network from AMS. However, no doubt KLM would be mindful of how a return to Stansted might influence its passenger through flow from LHR and LCY. I'm doubtful we would ever see a return to a 6 daily service to AMS, but perhaps they could make a double-daily AMS flight work to begin with and adjust accordingly? |
Originally Posted by JW95
(Post 11419137)
As far as KLM is concerned - this has been previously flagged up, and discussed earlier in the thread. With just 2 flights available to AMS with EZY, this is a far cry from when KLM, and later Buzz served the STN-AMS route, which I believe at its peak stood at 6 daily? KLM UK had a hub at STN back in the early 2000s and even had its own dedicated lounge in satellite 2 for business class passengers. Certainly they would be a welcome addition to STN for MAG I'm sure, especially given KLM's vast network from AMS. However, no doubt KLM would be mindful of how a return to Stansted might influence its passenger through flow from LHR and LCY. I'm doubtful we would ever see a return to a 6 daily service to AMS, but perhaps they could make a double-daily AMS flight work to begin with and adjust accordingly? |
Originally Posted by jdcg
(Post 11419206)
It would probably also cannibalise their Norwich route so all in all, fairly unlikely
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With AMS movements restrictions / reductions coming soon subject to EU courts I can't see any scope for anything new from STN, even for 2/day are any prized early morning / late tea time slots available other than the Loganair ones currently?
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