Not half as much as the loyal bmi Mainline employees who were made redundant, forced to change bases
or press-ganged into transferring to bmibaby on worse pay and conditions when it was first formed.



That aside, who is responsible for the miserable performance of bmibaby in the first place?

Who is responsible for the failure of bmibaby to compete with the likes of Easyjet and Ryanair?

The answer? Well, would you believe it? Those responsible for those failures are the self same Board thats lost its patience,
plus a few rats who jumped from the sinking ship before the rising water level reached them.

Morons.

It is not made up nor is it a rumour. NT stated this fact at a recent recurrent.

Topslide6, Just because you don't like what the board says doesn't mean it's not true.

As for people wanting to see the demise of bmi, there will always be a handful of people wishing this upon bmi and other airlines. I personally do not. I want the whole of the bmi group to go from strength to strength and it disappoints me when I hear of NT putting out statements such as this.

There are contradiction to what we have heared, some are saying the board are fed up with BmiBaby and Crawford rix saying they would like to add a 4th a/c at CWL etc.

Somone is saying the truth but it is interesting that this apparent announcement still hasn't been announced after approx 2 weeks of the meeting at Donnington Hall.

And looking at Jethros website along with the 733 due at may GTOYL there is another due in 08 GTOYI.

I thought BMI was looking to aquire other airlines at a moments notice, could this be BmiBaby into mainline?

Or could the recent name change of tiny fares to economy saver at bmi mainline a way to try to distance its self from baby?

I'm not sure if you saw the same presentation as I did but NT did not say that the bmi board has lost patience with bmibaby and that they only have a year to turn things around. What he said was that the board had been patient over the last two years acknowledging the fact that profitability had been sacrificed for the expansion of the last two years. He said that any future expansion would depend on turning things around and that this year things were heading in the right direction to do that.

The way you stated it puts a very negative spin on what was actually a very optomistic outlook given by the board and NT.

Absolutely agree with that bmi expat.

Hudson Bay's version of events certainly doesn't tally with the widely held view of the truth, and I personally don't think posts like his are even slightly appropriate, nor professional.

Like I said before, exactly what is your agenda HB?

Strengthening of BMIbaby Management
 

It's amused me over the past few weeks to read all the Naysayers' predictions for the industry, inlcuding all the possible mergers and acquisitions that are apparently going to happen. It would make things very interesting if they all actually happened.

I agree that BMI and Baby could do things differently, and would love to see more new routes and planes etc, but would far rather they stuck to the bread & butter routes and survived.

Anyhow if indeed BMI was about to close, or the board is 'fed up' with them, why would they be recruiting senior people?

"Bmibaby has appointed Julian Carr as commercial director, due to join in May 2008.

He joins from IATA (International Air Transport Association) in Canada where he was head of marketing and new business development.

Before that, he was managing director at MyTravelLite, the low-cost airline owned by the MyTravel Group.

Carr will work closely with the airline’s managing director Crawford Rix. "

The source for the above was Travelmole, but it's been widely reported elsewhere.

Virgin & Bmi Tie Up
 

VIRGIN

I've not seen it reported elsewhere, but I had a feeling BD, VS & LH would get together, it makes sense for the Germans, makes sense for VS. 49% of their equity wont be hard to come by either, SQ have lost patience with VS.

I think this has the best chance of succeeding under the beedy eye of the Germans. Probably means the end for the BD livery, if and its a BIG IF, this is true.

Brian.

History repeating itself, what a load of old tosh!!

I believe the phrase is "here we go again". We'll see.

SMB has stated before that he thought Bransons projections "rather racey" i would not be surprised to see that when bmi 2007 group profit figures are published shortly that at a trading level bmi will have done rather better than Virgin, both are private (non PLC) companies with large minority shareholders SIA & LH

SMB will not fly under the Virgin title or LH for that matter, at best you might get bmiVirgin

Most of what i seen about baby on this thread is utter rubbish, i doubt that there is a clock ticking, sure baby need to be seen to be profitable, if the investors are to commit to a new fleet order. The new routes and frequencies released so far this year show a marked change from the previous mind set of flying to every destination every day, this has allowed bolt on's to Poland and the (re) introduction of places like NCE and increases to FAO with the same fleet size or smaller, plus city breaks to LIS & MAD from Manchester.

The big test now comes at BHX with Ryanair, can baby grow the business there as it has at EMA?

Former MyTravelLite marketer Julian Carr has been appointed commercial director at bmibaby, the low cost airline run by bmi.
Mr Carr left MyTravel in September 2005 after rising to the position of managing director for the budget airline division MyTravelLite. Before joining MyTravel he was business development manager at low cost airline Jet2.

wasn't there a guy from easyjet that went to BmiBaby a couple of months back too? I can't remember his name and what he was brought in to do but apparently he was with easyjet for their first couple of years in operation.

This is looking good and contradicts the negative posts that WW has their clock ticking.

bmi to gib?
 

any basis to the rumour that bmi are to start a new route to gibraltar in june?

Where from?

Would that be Mainline, Baby or Regional?? Or are they all doing the route:}

Regional, from Groenigen, with an ERJ135.

Ok, I promise, that's absolutely the last time I make that joke about BMI's route planning. Today. :E

From Ema, using a Globespan 737 daily :}