and so it begins
 

as expected TOM will close STN ,no aircraft there after winter 2007/08... who knows there direction as a company being that XL are going to STN to do 9 flights a week this summer

WHICH BASE WILL BE NEXT......:eek:

Hope the management know what they are doing

From what i can see they are running it into the ground!

Don't count on TFly being in the UK at all by 2010

R.I.P BY

xlairways
 

who handles XL at stansted?

Could I ask what you are basing this on. In one sense you are correct Thomsonfly will not be around but Tuifly will be. The airline have place a fleet modernisation order with boeing for 65 aricraft (including an order for 24 new more efficient single aisle aircraft)

It has been said that Tui have sold the Thomsonfly routes to Globespan- who are trying to increase there route network from Scotland.

With regards to Stansted it has been a single fleeted base for a number of years now. It is a really trying time for all at Tfly at the moment with uncertainty in the air and the number of bases decreasing and people wondering if their jobs will be safe- even those at the bigger traditional BY bases.

I do personally hope that the company do have a plan- however the constant rumour mill on here and through galley FM has a really negative effect on crew morale- when to be honest alot of it is probably untrue.

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There is a meeting regarding the MME base on friday.

Cardiff
 

Any truth in the rumour that the BRS based 757 will be moving to CWL in 08?

MB

Are they going to be adding capacity to their traditional bases such as MAN, LGW, EMA, BHX and DSA and Coventry?

EMA could expand or are they then going to start closing other bases too starting with EMA and COV and DSA????

Regards

Stu

Ill doubt they will close other bases very much TOM is more and more focusing on low cost high frequency routes, and having one aircraft at bases scatterd here and there doesnt make good businees sense especially when they are trying to focus more on LCC carier status instead they could operate w paterns once the based aircraft has been re-positioned, i.e moving the 757 from BRS to CWl which is also a traditional base and one which TOM is keen to focus on.

The rumours are that TOM's 1 aircraft bases will close. LBA is going from end of April (this is confirmed), STN is going early next year. MME has question marks over it's future and BRS is speculated to close. Nothing said about LPL

GLA (which I think is a 2 aircraft base) is rumoured to be reduced in size

As for expansion at other bases who knows? CVT, DSA and BOH are stagnant. MAN has seen huge growth and CWL is also growing. Not sure about LGW/LTN/NEMA/NCL. Hopefully TOM will use any existing base closures to expand their larger bases and not use it as an opportunity to contract. Theres plenty of potential for them to expand at some of their larger bases and of course contraction would mean job losses

Britannia/Thomsonfly/Tuifly at Luton
 

In the sixies they were based at Luton and operated 8 Britannias from here, and virtually nowhere else. As the 737 fleet grew, with the Inclusive Holiday market, they opened new bases and moved aircraft away from Luton. A couple of years ago, they were down to 2/3 based 757s doing fewer than 40 flights a week.

Over the last 18 months or so, they have rediscovered their home base, and realised that it is spectacularly well located. 'Frequent' (does this mean scheduled?) services are now operated to lots of sun resorts, plus Marrakesh, Prague, and from May, Dubrovnilk and Jersey too. This year Luton will have 3/4 aircraft based, and regular visitors from other bases on 'w' patterns.

Perhaps they (at last) see a future at Luton, and will start to compete on the under-served routes on a scheduled basis (Greek islands, Turkish coast, Bulgaria, Romania, Naples/Sicily, etc).

rumour has been around BRS for a couple of weeks, that a 737 will join the 757, this does sound strange given the presence just accross the water at Cwl, then again the fact Brs has not been included as a base due to close along with the others named. this does give some indication that something is going on, again given the Cwl operation, you would have thought Brs would have been the first base to be named for closure. so can anyone in the know shed light onto the situation and end speculation

well something is going on with Thomsonfly at CWL. In January the handling contract was up for grabs. Servisair is currently handling them at CWL but Aviance has but a bid in. The announcment has been put back a couple of times now. Is this connected somehow? Or is there another reason behind this?

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dont worry about the handling agents its only because the 3 year deal was up this year, talked to the serviceair manager and he said they have secured another 3 year deal for serviceair

the reason i have heard for this consolidation of aircraft and the closure of small bases is due to the pathetic CARMAN system bought for great expensive does not work with so many crew in different bases:yuk:

also i might add through a good source there will only be 3 main bases which are LGW/MAN then maybe EMA all others will be on a W flying pattern or very reduced flying and this will all happen if the cabin crew except the new deal of cap471 which will allow them to flew more than 2 sectors a day like the scheduled girls do at the mo.

and i have just heard more voluntry redundencies coming up again this year

TIME TO SPREAD YOUR WINGS:{

Funcsatis,

What would this mean for bases like CWL which have a mixture of charter and loco?

MB

Hmmm? I cant really see this happening, I could however see many less bases that they currently fly from now, and about W Patters, I dont think they will do much of this in the future either, as it is really the way too run a Lo-co, is it. More like no charter, and buy seats from other airlines for charter traffic, such as XL, FCA, TCX, and others
I see the there being a few more future bases than you stated; LGW, Luton(It has no real competition as on other side of London to LGW, and needed for Essex population IMHO, before any says it wont be there), MAN, BHX, DSA, NCL, CWL and thats about it IMHO opinion. Well 08 will tell us all really, with the move to Tuifly.com, and other changes, fleet replacment, smaller bases closing, others expanding. Consolidation is enevitable, and so a redundacies, but we can always hope for better things ahead.

FUNCSATIS
Thomsonfly - Only 3 main bases ( LGW, MAN & poss EMA )
WHAT TOTAL CR:mad: P YOU SPOUT :=
H.U.

Isn't BHX a larger base than EMA at the moment? Anyway, who cares....this isn't going to happen!
Using CWL as an example, why would TOM build up a network to what i think is about 30 routes now, plonk 2 extra a/c in (one being a 763 which is valuable for Long Haul expansion!) and the possibility of BRS a/c, only to pull them all out. Somehow i cant see 30 odd routes being operated on W patterns!
Is this confirmed yet? Which Servisair manager have you spoken too?
The past 3 yrs has seen TOM move into the LoCo market, maybe now TOM have to watch their costs, compared too before and are pushing servisair for a better deal. Only time will tell.

nothing is confirmed as of yet, Aviance duty manager would know and he doesn't as of yet, it has been posponed for another week. It is doubtfull that Aviance would have the contract but Thomson are not happy that Servisair run front of house and Aviance run the ramp. It is obviously cheaper for Thomson to do a full handle with Aviance.

Watch this space the airline industry springs up a lot of suprises.