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Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 10210800)
I thought that the EU negotiated right on behalf of all EU states. From what you are saying it appears the French have an opt out, or are air traffic rights for third countries, outside the EU agreed at national level?
If they are agreed nationally, then one of more dire warning about a no deal Brexit may be overblown. Note, this is totally separate from the fact that, as it stands, the UK has no international authority to oversee type design and continued airworthiness, which could be far more problematic. |
Originally Posted by pholling
(Post 10211747)
Depends on the agreement. There are a number of existing agreements between non EU and EU states that pre-date the EU asserting sole negotiating authority. If there is no agreement between the EU as a whole and the country then the old agreements remain in force. Once the EU and that country sign a new agreement it takes precedence. This is what happened when the EU-US Openskies agreement came into force. The old agreements, e.g. the US-NL open skies and Bermuda II all lapsed. If the UK leaves the EU without a deal, or with a deal that doesn't include remaining in the EU negotiated agreements then they loose the rights in those agreements. It remains to be seen if the other countries would honour the previous agreements as these technically ceased to exist when the EU agreement was made.
Note, this is totally separate from the fact that, as it stands, the UK has no international authority to oversee type design and continued airworthiness, which could be far more problematic. |
You hope !
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Originally Posted by ATNotts
(Post 10211787)
Thanks for clarifying that. The apocalyptic scenario you describe in your final paragraph appears even to me, as a remainer, a very remote possibility. As it would affect not just the EU and the UK but potentially have worldwide consequences, other more powerful nations would in all probability bang the UK and EU's head's together and force some sort of agreement between the two parties.
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Originally Posted by kcockayne
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You hope !
Other issues could go pear shaped, I don't see this one going that way however red the red lines are, on either side. |
Since September RUH is served 4 times a day. Based on current schedule EK will phase out their remaining B773 by end of October. Starting then the passenger fleet contains only of A380, B77W and B77L.
Lately some more changes were announced (temporary reductions are not included): 01 October 2018 EDI (EK023/024) new daily with B77W 25 October 2018 DME (EK173/174) new third daily with B77W 26 October 2018 MUX (EK630/631) 4 weekly service cancelled; FZ will serve MUX 27 October 2018 CMB-SIN (EK348/349) daily service cancelled MHD (EK967/968) 4 weekly service cancelled; FZ will serve MHD 28 October 2018 FCO (EK099/100) daily service cancelled; planned resumption on 31/03 ATH (EK103/104) daily service cancelled; planned resumption on 31/03 FLL (EK213/214) from 5 weekly to 4 weekly B77L KIX (EK316/317) from daily B77W to daily A380 DPS (EK360/361) daily service cancelled MAA (EK544/545) from daily B773 to daily B77W -> last B773 flight 30 October 2018 HAM (EK061/062) from daily B77W to daily A380 06 November 2018 PRG (EK137/138) daily service cancelled; FZ will serve PRG along with EK's remaining daily service 15 November 2018 INC-CGO (EK326/327) 3 weekly service cancelled 01 December 2018 AMS (EK145/146) new 4 weekly with B77W JNB (EK761/762) from daily B77W to daily A380 LAD (EK793/794) from 5 weekly to daily B77W 01 December 2018 - 31 March 2019 ZAG (EK129/130) daily service with B77W cancelled; FZ will service ZAG daily with B7M8 in this period ARN (EK155/156) new second daily with B77W 01 January 2019 AMS (EK145/146) from 4 weekly to 5 weekly B77W 14 January 2019 MCO (EK219/220) from 5 weekly to 4 weekly B77W 15 January 2019 SIN (EK352/353) from daily B77W to daily A380 BKK-SYD (EK418/419) from daily A380 to daily B77W 01 February 2019 BUD (EK111/112) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 3-class B77W HND (EK312/313) from daily B77W to 5 weekly B77W + 2 weekly B77L CPT (EK778/779) daily service cancelled |
Review of 2018
https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...etter-in-2018# |
Operational adjustments in the coming months
Porto will be a new destination joining in July 40 A330-900 and 30 A350-900 have been ordered, on the other side only 14 more A380 will be delivered to Emirates until 2021 31 March 2019 BKK-HKG (EK384/385) from daily 2-class B77W to daily 3-class B77W PER (EK424/425) daily B77W service cancelled 16 April 2019 GLA (EK025/026) from daily B77W to daily A380 (until 31/05/19) BKK-HKG (EK384/385) from daily 3-class B77W to daily 2-class A380 31 May 2019 BKK-SYD (EK418/419) daily B77W service cancelled ATH (EK103/104) from daily B77W to daily A380 (until 30/09/19) 01 June 2019 DME (EK173/174) daily B77W service cancelled CMN (EK753/754) new daily service with B77W CKY-DSS (EK797/798) from 4 weekly to 5 weekly B77W GRU-SCL (EK263/264) 5 weekly B77L service cancelled GIG-EZE (EK247/248) from daily B77W to 4 weekly B77L GIG-SCL (EK245/246) new 3 weekly flight with B77L BKK-PNH (EK370/371) existing BKK flight extended to PNH daily B77W RGN (EK388/389) from daily to 4 weekly B77W BOS (EK237/238) from daily B77W to daily A380 (until 30/09/19) GLA (EK027/028) from daily B77W to daily A380 (until 30/09/19) AMM (EK903/904) from daily B77W to daily A380 (until 26/10/19) 02 June 2019 ACC (EK789/790) new 4 weekly flight with B77W ABV (EK785/786) from 4 weekly to daily B77W 14 June 2019 DUR (EK759/760) new 4 weekly flight with B77W (until 04/08/19) 01 July 2019 STN (EK067/068) new 2nd daily flight with B77W 02 July 2019 NEW: OPO (EK197/198) new 4 weekly flight with B77W 28 October 2019 CAI (EK921/922) new 4 weekly flight with B77W 01 December 2019 BOS (EK237/238) from daily B77W to daily A380 (until 31/01/20) |
A lot of investment in a triple airbridge at GLA for an intermittent seasonal A380. With month on month decreases recently, wonder if A380 will promote enough existing pax to stick with it for the 'superjumbo' to come back after this summer. Nice to see it at all I suppose. |
What went wrong with Emirates LHR flights today?
EK1 arrived approx 4.5 hours late EK31 then arrived approx 40 minutes early. Finally, EK29 arrived approx 2 hours late. All 3 arrived in a 15 minute window! I wouldn't like to have been the bloke on the ground tasked with finding a space to put them! |
Originally Posted by KelvinD
(Post 10433768)
What went wrong with Emirates LHR flights today?
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Thanks for the info. It must have been bedlam at Heathrow trying to squeeze 3 A380s in all at the same time!
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How many A380 capable gates are there in T3? Sufficient or did they go remote?
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T3 Has six Code F three bridge contact stands |
Recent changes:
Porto was launched in July and in December Mexico-City (via Barcelona) will follow as a new destination. 01 July 2019 STN (EK067/068) new 2nd daily flight with B77W MCT (EK862/863) from daily B77W to daily A380 MCT (EK864/865) from daily B77W to daily A380 02 July 2019 NEW: OPO (EK197/198) new 4 weekly flight with B77W 05 July 2019 EBB (EK731/732) new 3 weekly flight with B77W 28 October 2019 CAI (EK921/922) new 4 weekly flight with B77W 01 December 2019 BOS (EK237/238) from daily B77W to daily A380 (until 31/01/20) 09 December 2019 NEW: BCN-MEX (EK255/256) new daily flight with B77L |
Are they going to have a Barcelona base ? Interresting ...
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No, they'd never ever have a base outside of DXB. The flight goes DXB-BCN-MEX
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Originally Posted by atakacs
(Post 10520240)
Are they going to have a Barcelona base ? Interresting ...
dxb-mxp-jfk dxb-ath-ewr dxb-gig-eze |
Thanks for clarifying |
Emirates official suspends ALL ops from 25th March, except SkyCargo.
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